Thracian Posted 27 August 2007 Posted 27 August 2007 I'm saying little. I wouldn't be surprised if MM's cheesed off cos he wants to sell him and Allen wants to keep him for now...it's just a thought. But, whatever, MA knows his situation best. If he thinks he should stay the only talk I really want to hear is from Fryatt on the pitch. If not then MA will doubtless do what he thinks best at the time. Meanwhile it's no use Fryatt doing anything else other than keep himself fit and keep trying doing his best. If he can also start improving some of his many shortcomings it might help because others have done that an benefitted considerably.
Jimmy Posted 27 August 2007 Posted 27 August 2007 I'm saying little. I wouldn't be surprised if MM's cheesed off cos he wants to sell him and Allen wants to keep him for now...it's just a thought.But, whatever, MA knows his situation best. If he thinks he should stay the only talk I really want to hear is from Fryatt on the pitch. If not then MA will doubtless do what he thinks best at the time. Meanwhile it's no use Fryatt doing anything else other than keep himself fit and keep trying doing his best. If he can also start improving some of his many shortcomings it might help because others have done that an benefitted considerably. tbh he is atleast worthy of a place on the bench, i think it is pretty dumb not to have a striker on the bench, what happens if 1 gets injured or we need to chase the game...
Stevosevic Posted 27 August 2007 Posted 27 August 2007 tbh he is atleast worthy of a place on the bench, i think it is pretty dumb not to have a striker on the bench, what happens if 1 gets injured or we need to chase the game... We would have moved Hume up top.
Jimmy Posted 27 August 2007 Posted 27 August 2007 We would have moved Hume up top. yes which leaves us with TWO strikers on the field, of which Hume spends almost as much time in his own half as he does the opposition penalty box, should we need to chase the game what then? it also forced us to leave a totally knackered MDV on for the full 90, which is a recipe for injury
lildave3 Posted 27 August 2007 Posted 27 August 2007 yes which leaves us with TWO strikers on the field, of which Hume spends almost as much time in his own half as he does the opposition penalty box, should we need to chase the game what then? it also forced us to leave a totally knackered MDV on for the full 90, which is a recipe for injury It didn't at all, we could have easily took MDV off at anytime, bringing on Kaebi or even Levi and putting Hume up front.
Jimmy Posted 27 August 2007 Posted 27 August 2007 It didn't at all, we could have easily took MDV off at anytime, bringing on Kaebi or even Levi and putting Hume up front. incase you forgot we finished the game with ONLY mdv on, the other 2 had been removed
lildave3 Posted 27 August 2007 Posted 27 August 2007 incase you forgot we finished the game with ONLY mdv on, the other 2 had been removed I can't remember who went off, but what i'm saying is we didn't force ourselves to play MDV for the full 90, MA chose to.
Jimmy Posted 27 August 2007 Posted 27 August 2007 Hume went off knackered, DJ went off to avoid a potential red card and MDV was knackered so who would we of played upfront had he come off?
lildave3 Posted 27 August 2007 Posted 27 August 2007 Hume went off knackered, DJ went off to avoid a potential red card and MDV was knackered so who would we of played upfront had he come off? If he had to come off then i'm not sure who we would have played upfront, but at 4-0 up with little time remaining, it wouldn't have mattered too much would it?
Jimmy Posted 27 August 2007 Posted 27 August 2007 If he had to come off then i'm not sure who we would have played upfront, but at 4-0 up with little time remaining, it wouldn't have mattered too much would it? i am not talking specifically about saturday, its more a general point no matter how mant strikers we start with we should ALWAYS have at least 1 on the bench, look at every team sheet in every game, you'll see all the teams except us had a striker on the bench, this time it didn't matter but next time it probably will
Geo V Posted 27 August 2007 Posted 27 August 2007 A loan wouldn't be a bad thing but I wouldn't want him to go to one of our play-off chasing rivals. Send him to Peterboro or someone like that . I hope we dont sell him though as he is still young and open to improvement and we have MDV and Cort on the books who maybe have had their best years behind them and wont be around for too long.
Blue Bob Posted 27 August 2007 Posted 27 August 2007 yes which leaves us with TWO strikers on the field, of which Hume spends almost as much time in his own half as he does the opposition penalty box, should we need to chase the game what then? it also forced us to leave a totally knackered MDV on for the full 90, which is a recipe for injury I would guess they were knackered as they had just played Watford off the park. Isnt that what we wanted players to give 100% on the pitch and not players walking off looking nice and fresh and ready for a hard nights partying and drinking up town. MDV couldnt have been that bad if in the 84th minute he forced his way between two Watford players to score our 4th goal. We had a brilliant result - enjoy it. There is no need for all these if's and and's - we won and won well. It doesnt happen that often (though hopefully it will).
Mickey O'Neil Posted 27 August 2007 Posted 27 August 2007 tbh he is atleast worthy of a place on the bench, i think it is pretty dumb not to have a striker on the bench, what happens if 1 gets injured or we need to chase the game... Can't sell an injured player, especially this close to the end of the transfer window.
Joe. Posted 27 August 2007 Posted 27 August 2007 Does Fryatt even want to be playing for Leicester? Probably not at the moment seeing as he can't get a sniff near the first team. He'll be wanting to leave soon if it stays like this I reckon.
Matt Posted 27 August 2007 Posted 27 August 2007 How true this is I don't know, and it is one of these "I know someone who knows someone" stories. Anyway an old bloke I used to work with heard that Fryatt's baby was ill and had something wrong and Fryatt was really down and was about ready to jack the game in, I think it was about Christmas time last year maybe, not sure now. How true that is and whether this if it is true is still effecting him I dunno
David O'Leary Posted 27 August 2007 Posted 27 August 2007 For a decent amount i would sell him, we have to many strikers especially as there is some good talent in the academy now
Thracian Posted 28 August 2007 Posted 28 August 2007 How true this is I don't know, and it is one of these "I know someone who knows someone" stories.Anyway an old bloke I used to work with heard that Fryatt's baby was ill and had something wrong and Fryatt was really down and was about ready to jack the game in, I think it was about Christmas time last year maybe, not sure now. How true that is and whether this if it is true is still effecting him I dunno He has definitely had what were described to me as "personal problems" of one sort or another.
Raj Posted 28 August 2007 Posted 28 August 2007 I'd be suprised if he is still a LCFC player by Friday!
Geo V Posted 28 August 2007 Posted 28 August 2007 Does Fryatt even want to be playing for Leicester? Obviously we dont know exactly whats going on but from what we I have read, MF has impressed in training, stop scored in pre-season friendlies and has just "got on with it" despite playing some of the second class friendlies in pre-season. MA was also quoted as praising him for turning up in the dressing room before kick-off to cheer the lads on despite failing to make the 16. Maybe someone who didnt care would have had his feet up somewhere else. I may just be putting two and two together and getting 5 but it seems that he does want to play for us and is at least trying but may well be frustrated as a 21yo lad that he is either warming the bench or not making the 16. Most players should want to play regularly, especially the younger players. BTW, a crap rumour link but hey, I`ll put it down anyway . Soares swap for MF with Palace http://www.palace.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=80563
Thracian Posted 28 August 2007 Posted 28 August 2007 It's not the easiest decision to make. City are trying to win promotion. Everyone knows Fryatt has some ability. He doesn't look like doing much better than bench warming for the forseeable future in League matches but why would Leicester feel they need to transfer him to another Championship club and have him possibly hurt our own ambitions?. Sure, if there was a big enough bid it would be tempting but is such a bid likely? I could be wrong but I don't think so. He could as easily remain here as move.
Geo V Posted 28 August 2007 Posted 28 August 2007 It's not the easiest decision to make.City are trying to win promotion. Everyone knows Fryatt has some ability. He doesn't look like doing much better than bench warming for the forseeable future in League matches but why would Leicester feel they need to transfer him to another Championship club and have him possibly hurt our own ambitions?. Sure, if there was a big enough bid it would be tempting but is such a bid likely? I could be wrong but I don't think so. He could as easily remain here as move. I think shows like the Championship have highlighted that there is a real lack of young strikers doing well in leagues like the Championship with many sides opting to bring in old stagers like Sherringham, Fowler, Hasselbaink, Windass, Hayles, Dublin, Phillips etc etc. Some of the old timers are doing OK, especially Phillips but when a young English striker does well, you are bound to get an over-reaction from clubs who want them. OK MF did what the likes of Sharp and Eastwood did and scored goals at the lower league but haven't kicked on over the last year or so but the potential is still there to improve.
Thracian Posted 28 August 2007 Posted 28 August 2007 I think shows like the Championship have highlighted that there is a real lack of young strikers doing well in leagues like the Championship with many sides opting to bring in old stagers like Sherringham, Fowler, Hasselbaink, Windass, Hayles, Dublin, Phillips etc etc. Some of the old timers are doing OK, especially Phillips but when a young English striker does well, you are bound to get an over-reaction from clubs who want them. OK MF did what the likes of Sharp and Eastwood did and scored goals at the lower league but haven't kicked on over the last year or so but the potential is still there to improve. It's alright having the potential to improve but another thing getting down to the work required to realise that potential. And having "personal problems" whether of your own making or not - and I think Fryatt's may fall into both categories - is not the best launching pad for a period of concentration and hard graft. I don't pretend to know the current situation or whether his problems are easing - I just look at Matty's performance on the pitch. If Martin Allen still has faith in him I'll back that and hope the justification is shown on the pitch. If is isn't or if MA's seen enough then c'est la vie. Fryatt will have wasted a golden opportunity and should know that wherever he goes in the future he has to take himself with him. Sooner or later, to be a winner and to be successful, you have to tackle anything that might be holding you back, whether professional or personal.
Steven Posted 28 August 2007 Posted 28 August 2007 It's alright having the potential to improve but another thing getting down to the work required to realise that potential. cf. Mark de Vries. A player trying to get the best out of himself at the fag end of his career. Fryatt would do well to take note.
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