Ric Flair Posted 23 July 2007 Share Posted 23 July 2007 I'm sick and tired of reading all this bollocks about Matty Fryatt. It's been discussed to death on here, so another thread probably isn't the best of idea's, but i'm Ian Beale and I call the shots. I cannot believe the negativity and vitriol aimed at Fryatt on here, it's fookin disgusting. No wonder he's perhaps got disillusioned at Leicester going by what some of the fans have spouted about him. We're not talking about a crap footballer here either, we're talking about a young player with vast potential that's had a horrific season due to various things. I'm telling you now, if he leaves Leicester, he'll go on to better things. I'm willing to put money on that and it's here for everyone to read. I didn't see too many fans on here giving it this bigg'un about Fryatt at the end of the 2005/06 season when he'd been the catalyst to our survival with some inspiring performances up front with Hume. Doesn't that count for anything? Ok, so last season was an embarrassment and a write off, but can't people use a bit of rationality for it? Injuries, loss of form and playing in a crap team that hoofs the ball 100 foot in the air. Fryatt played through the pain barrier for a lot of his appearances last season due to the problems he had with the arches of his feet. The lad was in agony but he battled on as Kelly needed him to try and save us. Not exactly his fault that he was being picked when he was injured was it? All this bollocks about him being a big time charlie and wanting to join bigger clubs is wide of the mark as well. He's about as flashy as a tin of beans. We've got a player on our books that notched 20 goals in a season (2005/06) at League One & Championship level and would have done the same again last season in the right team had he been fully fit. I'm willing to put money on it that Fryatt will notch 12-15 goals this season, and that's with the uncertainty of him being a regular at Leicester. I'm happy to be proven a mug if he has another shit season, but don't make out he's shiut because of what happened last year. If he was shit, he wouldn't have played like he did in 2005/06 when it was seen as steal when we signed him under the noses of some far bigger clubs than us. He has his limitations, as does Hume and any other player that plays down at Leicester but he's a goal scorer and has a footballing brain that has been lacking at Leicester for some years. Under Martin Allen, where fitness is paramount then he'll be some player. If the arches of his feet have recovered, then the injuries will be in the past. Then Fryatt can be judged on his footballing talent and if you lot are saying the same things about him this time next year i'll be very surprised. Short memories, let's hope this is the case again. I wonder how long it will take Fryatt to make fans forget last season? The same amount of time it took them to suddenly claim he was a duffer? I won't hold my breath. Don't write him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Me Posted 23 July 2007 Share Posted 23 July 2007 Agree with every word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandannieldanok Posted 23 July 2007 Share Posted 23 July 2007 Agree with every word. seconded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez of Mahrez Posted 23 July 2007 Share Posted 23 July 2007 :laugh: There's only about five of us who ever slag him off in the slightest! Everyone else arserapes the bloke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 23 July 2007 Share Posted 23 July 2007 I like a bit of Fryatt. To be honest though - if Martin Allen doesn't rate him, I don't see much point us keeping him. I'm putting a bit of faith in MA here. Would be sad to see Fryatt go.. but if he doesn't fit the system or the masterplan, then so be it, fare thee well Matty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 23 July 2007 Share Posted 23 July 2007 :laugh:There's only about five of us who ever slag him off in the slightest! Everyone else arserapes the bloke! Thats not quite true. But there is plenty of support for him I'll admit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 23 July 2007 Author Share Posted 23 July 2007 I like a bit of Fryatt.To be honest though - if Martin Allen doesn't rate him, I don't see much point us keeping him. I'm putting a bit of faith in MA here. Would be sad to see Fryatt go.. but if he doesn't fit the system or the masterplan, then so be it, fare thee well Matty. Allen does rate him, that's the reason of the rallying call. He'll be here next season, it's time for us to ALL back him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenny06 Posted 23 July 2007 Share Posted 23 July 2007 Agree with every word. Agreed 100%! I'll be gutted if MA sells Matty but I just have a strong feeling that he will. I did feel for Matt on Saturday when he came on and was playing great up front and was then moved to the right hand side and later asked if he wanted to come off. I'm a big fan of his and I hope for our sake he stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 23 July 2007 Share Posted 23 July 2007 absolutely - he's our 20+ a season man and who knows DJ might even join him - if that happens we'll be going up (maybe i'm getting abit too far ahead of myself as i still think we need some decent wingers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez of Mahrez Posted 23 July 2007 Share Posted 23 July 2007 :laugh: The replies to this thread are already making a mockery of this idea that Fryatt has been overly criticised on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 23 July 2007 Share Posted 23 July 2007 Mhhh, he has gotten a fair bit of stick on here though and I do, in parts, agree with a lot of the lads who've responded here. I mean I think if anyone really thinks we're harbouring a future, international quality superstar then they're sorely misguided. I'm not even convinced he'll ever be an established Premier League striker, time will tell. But I most certainly wouldn't write him off and I definitely don't want to see him leave the club. I'd agree that his last season was the product of great misfortune, but let's have some perspective here: a. Yes, even slightly unfit he's leagues better than Hammond (sod off, Thracian, no, Hammond isn't the answer.) b. Yes, he does look like his confidence can really take a battering. c. No, no he isn't going to be the next <big name striker that plays a bit like him> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 23 July 2007 Author Share Posted 23 July 2007 :laugh:The replies to this thread are already making a mockery of this idea that Fryatt has been overly criticised on here. I was expecting a bit of abuse myself. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Fox Posted 23 July 2007 Share Posted 23 July 2007 Well I’m sorry but I have to disagree completely. Everyone thought Rob Kelly was going to be the next Alex Ferguson after he kept us up in that dire season. Dean Windass scores more than Fryatt, and to be fair Fryatt will probably never get anywhere near Dean’s scoring record. I don’t see why everyone thinks Fryatt is going to mould into fantastic top premier league player? He’s at the stage where you’re either good or you’re not. Fryatt knocked in a few goals in games we forced to battle and scrape to win. There was no class or quality involved whatsoever. It was ugly, filthy and horrible to watch but the job had to be done. Just because Fryatt hit a couple of pee rollers and miss-hit goals doesn’t make him a good player. Simple fact is that Fryatt is an average championship / League 1 player. That’s it, nothing more than average. He’ll never be anything more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simi Posted 23 July 2007 Share Posted 23 July 2007 absolutely - he's our 20+ a season man and who knows DJ might even join him - if that happens we'll be going up (maybe i'm getting abit too far ahead of myself as i still think we need some decent wingers) What evidence is there of that? Ok, if he does rediscover his confidence and find a partner he can play with etc he probably will score a few goals. I just don't think he's got enough to consistently score goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 23 July 2007 Author Share Posted 23 July 2007 Well I’m sorry but I have to disagree completely. Everyone thought Rob Kelly was going to be the next Alex Ferguson after he kept us up in that dire season. Dean Windass scores more than Fryatt, and to be fair Fryatt will probably never get anywhere near Dean’s scoring record. I don’t see why everyone thinks Fryatt is going to mould into fantastic top premier league player? He’s at the stage where you’re either good or you’re not. Fryatt knocked in a few goals in games we forced to battle and scrape to win. There was no class or quality involved whatsoever. It was ugly, filthy and horrible to watch but the job had to be done. Just because Fryatt hit a couple of pee rollers and miss-hit goals doesn’t make him a good player. Simple fact is that Fryatt is an average championship / League 1 player. That’s it, nothing more than average. He’ll never be anything more than that. So in the 15 or so games he played for us in 2005/06 you're saying he wasn't anything special? And i'm not necessarily talking about the quality of the goals he scored, some strikers are reknown for scoring scrappy goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted 23 July 2007 Share Posted 23 July 2007 I agree. I think he's a good player and we'll be stupid to get rid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breadandcheese Posted 23 July 2007 Share Posted 23 July 2007 Agree with you Ric. Again I'll post his goal against Derby I don't think we have one other player who would have that sort of poise and touch. No Elvis smash the ball wildly when in with a chance, just a cool sidefoot finish into the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 23 July 2007 Share Posted 23 July 2007 I'd o'scored that, mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 23 July 2007 Share Posted 23 July 2007 I totally agree. And what really frustrates me is all of this talk about Campbell's goalscoring record vs Fryatt's in this division. Campbell played for a very good team last season, I'm sure even though he played infrequently, he had far more chances than Matty, not because of his movement or touch or ability but simply because he had a half decent midfield. Compare D Johnson, Muamba, Clemence, Larsson with Maybury, A Johnson, Hughes and Tiatto and perhaps now people will see another reason why Fryatt has a poor season last time out. I'm not sure if anyone remembers but the first game we won last season was against Ipswich at the Walkers. That game was the best I've ever seen Fryatt play, and one of the best individual displays I've seen at the Walkers. That was the game where he had one disallowed for offside, one where he rounded the keeper and slipped, and he basically tore Ipswich's back line to shreds. That's the player Fryatt is and can be. Not the hobbling, frustrated player we saw for large parts of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 23 July 2007 Share Posted 23 July 2007 With Fowler fixed up and McLeod seemingly off to Charlton MA might be left without anyone as an appealing alternative to Fryatt before long. In which case let's roll out the Matt and let's hope he's all the Ric believes he'll be. I've promised to give him a clean slate this season and have tried to judge him that way. If he's first choice of course 12/15 goals won't be enough - he needs 18 minimum to be a first choice specialist striker - but I shall sit back in anticipation reading to enjoy the spectacle. Do I think he'll get 18 goals? Too many imponderables. But, part from Hume. he's as much chance as anyone else I've seen in the team so far. If he stays fit and that's a big if. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 23 July 2007 Author Share Posted 23 July 2007 With Fowler fixed up and McLeod seemingly off to Charlton MA might be left without anyone as an appealing alternative to Fryatt before long.In which case let's roll out the Matt and let's hope he's all the Ric believes he'll be. I've promised to give him a clean slate this season and have tried to judge him that way. If he's first choice of course 12/15 goals won't be enough - he needs 18 minimum to be a first choice specialist striker - but I shall sit back in anticipation reading to enjoy the spectacle. Do I think he'll get 18 goals? Too many imponderables. But, part from Hume. he's as much chance as anyone else I've seen in the team so far. If he stays fit and that's a big if. Fully fit, if he plays 40 games next season he'll score 15+ goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez of Mahrez Posted 23 July 2007 Share Posted 23 July 2007 With Fowler fixed up and McLeod seemingly off to Charlton MA might be left without anyone as an appealing alternative to Fryatt before long.In which case let's roll out the Matt and let's hope he's all the Ric believes he'll be. I've promised to give him a clean slate this season and have tried to judge him that way. If he's first choice of course 12/15 goals won't be enough - he needs 18 minimum to be a first choice specialist striker - but I shall sit back in anticipation reading to enjoy the spectacle. Do I think he'll get 18 goals? Too many imponderables. But, part from Hume. he's as much chance as anyone else I've seen in the team so far. If he stays fit and that's a big if. Just total nonsense. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/e...ers/default.stm Cureton Colchester 23 Chopra Cardiff 22 Kamara West Brom 20 Earnshaw Norwich 18 Iwelumo Colchester 18 Rasiak Southampton 18 Howard Derby 16 Lee Ipswich 16 Nugent Preston 15 Gray Burnley 14 McSheffrey Birmingham 14 Blackstock QPR 13 Hayles Plymouth 13 Phillips West Brom 13 Vine Birmingham 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James. Posted 23 July 2007 Share Posted 23 July 2007 Fryatt deserves a season under Martin Allen at full fitness. If he performs consistently well at the level we expect from him and gets 15+ goals then he will have done enough for me and deserves his place in the team. If he doesn't perform consistently, struggles to maintain fitness and doesn't score at the very least double figures then the abuse, to an extent, will be justified. But he should certainly be given the opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hullfox Posted 23 July 2007 Share Posted 23 July 2007 I've promised to give him a clean slate this season. His improved sleep patterns as a result of reading that will no doubt contribute to his improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 23 July 2007 Share Posted 23 July 2007 Fryatt deserves a season under Martin Allen at full fitness.If he performs consistently well at the level we expect from him and gets 15+ goals then he will have done enough for me and deserves his place in the team. If he doesn't perform consistently, struggles to maintain fitness and doesn't score at the very least double figures then the abuse, to an extent, will be justified. But he should certainly be given the opportunity. Fryatt deserves a season - after the last one - everyone else gets a few games! Why am I not surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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