Simi Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 2nd and 4th are savable if your a good keeper I reckon.Whelans is unstoppable. Whelans is a complete rocket, Logan would of had no chance to prepare for that, nor would Henderson. I can't say how number1's opinion is all being based around one game. Henderson makes such basic errors, putting us in trouble with his kicking. Didn't he let in a soft goal against Cardiff as well? I'll look for some footage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l444ry Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 From those camera angles it's hard to tell if there was any swerve on the shots, therefore difficult to be totally sure how much blame the keeper must take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod.E Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 There. Shouldve saved the last one and 2nd one. And as for other games.. I just can't recall them, i have a bad memory, but the amount of times i came back blaming Logan. OK, i remember the Barnsley game because that was near the end. I remember him really trying his hardest to give them a goal, really had my shaking. Although he did make one good save that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simi Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 Whelans is a complete rocket, Logan would of had no chance to prepare for that, nor would Henderson.I can't say how number1's opinion is all being based around one game. Henderson makes such basic errors, putting us in trouble with his kicking. Didn't he let in a soft goal against Cardiff as well? I'll look for some footage. Watch the third goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 From those camera angles it's hard to tell if there was any swerve on the shots, therefore difficult to be totally sure how much blame the keeper must take. I think it's safe to say not alot in any case, they were all well struck. and the reasult of us being a centre half down as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez of Mahrez Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 Why on earth are we arguing over two or three wonder goals that another keeper MAY have had a chance of saving. There were bundles of goals last season that were definitely down to poor positioning, organisation or agility. All this bollocks over a couple of goals in that Sheff Wed debacle is just because of 1) number 1 being rubbish at arguing and 2) Mablo having a bee in his bonnet at the time when people said Logan had no chance with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod.E Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 From those camera angles it's hard to tell if there was any swerve on the shots, therefore difficult to be totally sure how much blame the keeper must take. I had a perfect view that game... Logan dived under the ball, didn't swerve a lot at all. I also recall Logan was very shaky at Preston, had leicester fans hearts going 100 mph! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 This is a bit like arguing whether you'd rather have a sh it sandwich or a vomit pie. In all seriousness, I think Logan has the potential to be a better keeper. But lets be fair, he was rushed in when we were having a few keeping problems and did pretty well. He looked even better because of what was playing there before. Then he had the inevitable crisis that a young player has and got binned, without any real solution being sought which I'm sure did bugger all good to his confidence. The lad is so flat-footed its unreal and thats his major problem. It's something that really SHOULD have been worked on (and I'm not sure whether or not it was, I don't know how much specialist time he was given with a goalkeeping coach who was also our assistant manager) but he has time to work on it now. And I'm not sure being on loan will help with that or not. If he sorts this factor out then he has the makings of a decent keeper at this level. His shot stopping is fairly decent, and although he's not really agile nor was Neville Southall or David Seaman. But they made up for it with decent positioning and decent footwork. THAT's how much those two things count for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 Why on earth are we arguing over two or three wonder goals that another keeper MAY have had a chance of saving. There were bundles of goals last season that were definitely down to poor positioning, organisation or agility. All this bollocks over a couple of goals in that Sheff Wed debacle is just because of 1) number 1 being rubbish at arguing and 2) Mablo having a bee in his bonnet at the time when people said Logan had no chance with them. Good point sir. Watch Chopras third goal anyway, that is how to move your feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 I had a perfect view that game... Logan dived under the ball, didn't swerve a lot at all. i was right be hind them aswell he had no chance, all well hit travelling extreamly fast and swerving away from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 I had a perfect view that game... Logan dived under the ball, didn't swerve a lot at all. What? how can he of dived under any of them he's not super man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 Logan's performances against Birmingham away, Hereford, Preston & Barnsley away are enough to suggest there's a goalie in him somewhere. Not the finished article by a long stretch, but one we should definitely hang on to as he could develop in to a quality goalie in a few years. Loan him out by all means if Neilson or Henderson are reliable enough for this season. Jury's out on that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod.E Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 Good point sir.Watch Chopras third goal anyway, that is how to move your feet. Indeed. That is how to desperately try and rescue a cock up! Bad mistake hendo, good feet though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simi Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 What? how can he of dived under any of them he's not super man! I can only guess then peno, which was struck well as well. I really don't see where we're going here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 Indeed. That is how to desperately try and rescue a cock up! Bad mistake hendo, good feet though! do you have a foot fettish or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod.E Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 What? how can he of dived under any of them he's not super man! As in, the ball went over him, he dived too low because hes a fatty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod.E Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 do you have a foot fettish or something? Hilairious. I go to leicester goalkeepers training for my age. All they bang on about is foot work. One of the most important things in goalkeeping. So don't try to tell me about somethng you don't know about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 As in, the ball went over him, he dived too low because hes a fatty as apposed to henderson who waits until the ball is already in the net before he dives at all, as demonstraighted yet again by pompey's 1st and 2nd on saturday as well as letting the ball go under him for their 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 Logan's performances against Birmingham away, Hereford, Preston & Barnsley away are enough to suggest there's a goalie in him somewhere. Not the finished article by a long stretch, but one we should definitely hang on to as he could develop in to a quality goalie in a few years. Loan him out by all means if Neilson or Henderson are reliable enough for this season. Jury's out on that though. Very much so, on Nielsen anyway, fingers crossed he starts and plays well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 Hilairious. I go to leicester goalkeepers training for my age. All they bang on about is foot work. One of the most important things in goalkeeping. So don't try to tell me about somethng you don't know about i used to be a keeper, pretty good 1 to, i know all about keeping, just cus you go to the coaching courses they put on in the summer means fook all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez of Mahrez Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 Okay, I think we've exhausted this. Gradel v Newton. Go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simi Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 Hilairious. I go to leicester goalkeepers training for my age. All they bang on about is foot work. One of the most important things in goalkeeping. So don't try to tell me about somethng you don't know about Something you're not proving to be to clever about either. I'm sure kicking has something to do with footwork as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod.E Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 as apposed to henderson who waits until the ball is already in the net before he dives at all, as demonstraighted yet again by pompey's 1st and 2nd on saturday as well as letting the ball go under him for their 3rdPre-season goalkeeping is very hard. I should know that. Your never at your sharpest in pre-season as a keeper. I let in the least goals in all 5 leagues last year. Now i'm back in training again and the stories a bit different! I'm about 10x slower to react than i was in full swing last year.i used to be a keeper, pretty good 1 to, i know all about keeping, just cus you go to the coaching courses they put on in the summer means fook allAll year round actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 Pre-season goalkeeping is very hard. I should know that. Your never at your sharpest in pre-season as a keeper. I let in the least goals in all 5 leagues last year. Now i'm back in training again and the stories a bit different! I'm about 10x slower to react than i was in full swing last year. the fact is henderson is no different, also who do you play for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 7 August 2007 Share Posted 7 August 2007 Pre-season goalkeeping is very hard. I should know that. Your never at your sharpest in pre-season as a keeper. I let in the least goals in all 5 leagues last year. Now i'm back in training again and the stories a bit different! I'm about 10x slower to react than i was in full swing last year.All year round actually Right, so he's suddenly going to regain his edge in a week is he. Fez is right, your rubbish at argueing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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