Raj Posted 2 December 2007 Posted 2 December 2007 I remember a certain Sir Les Ferdinand becoming a Leicester Legend in the twylight of his career, basically because of the effort and commitment he showed every time he stepped on the field for Leicester..... The time when Sir Les, the ball, the goalkeeper and two defenders all ended up in the back of the net after one of sir Les's attempts to reach a cross says it all really. This guy virtually had to be carried ON to the field on a stretcher!!!!!The same goes for Stevie Walsh who played the last few seasons for Leicester with the type of worn out body that most people would struggle to even walk with! Whilst I dont particularly condone booing of individual players I can see the reason why it happens..... frustration at watching pretty dire fare most weeks for the last three seasons at least. Ian Holloway seems a genuine kind of bloke to me and I hope he is at LCFC for many years to come, but I feel he has made a mistake in critising the fans the way he did. Managers and players come and go but the fans are forever.... I would suggest that many of the fans at yesterdays game were first brought to watch Leicester by their fathers and their fathers before them. While no-one has a divine right to expect to win every game, or play in the top divisions supporters do and should expect commitment from their team. There are certain members who do show commitment and it doesn't need me to say who they are......but if the others were to show even half of the commitment and passion of the two guys I spoke about earlier in this post, then the booing would become a thing of the past. Decent points. But it could be argued(by better people than me!0 That by playing when he was injured,CCort did show courage and commitment to the cause. Im sure some of our players who have not even featured yet,may have found it alot easier just to agrevate an injury in order not to play. Not that im saying it would EVER happen at our club.
Mr Happy Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 i was disapointed with the reaction , i hate it when people slate our fans but in fairness their are so many arseholes in the stands who aint got a clue about this sport . really pi55ed me off If Shaun Newton & Carl Cort could put in a performance every week like Ronaldo does:1 we would not have this thread and 2 we would not boooooooooo Those fookers deserve it! What ever you may write on here will not change anyone's opinions on booing, also where does anyone get off on telling other fans how to behave? I think out of evrything thats been said in this thread this really gets my goat the most. At the southampton match some deluded moron behind me was getting off on telling every leicester fan, that left around the 85-86minute mark, that they were in his exact words 'part time supporters' NO Didn't he stop to think that the drop in attendance from 27, 000 to around 20,000 was showing who the 'real' fans were?? On the issue of booing players - no it doesn't do their moral any good but considering that almost every player in championship level or above is over payed then, yes, we should be voicing our opinions, after all if the players or managers don't like our opinions then maybe its them that should **** off and not the people that are paying their wages!!
Daggers Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 Saturday was a new low for the ignorant twats that "support" City. Booing a player, irony or not, during a match is no way to improve our situation. Assholes. Just **** off, the club doesn't need you. Foxes!
Anish Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 Saturday was a new low for the ignorant twats that "support" City. Booing a player, irony or not, during a match is no way to improve our situation.Assholes. Just **** off, the club doesn't need you. Foxes! As has been mentioned before, if we got rid of every supporter that booed at some stage or another, there'd only be 10,000 in the ground. Like it or not, the club needs as many supporters as they can get, and if that means boos when the team/a player performs badly, then so be it. I'm sure the players would rather play in front of 20,000+ fans who express their opinions than 10,000 happy clappers who won't boo them when they play badly. The players may not need the booing fans, but the club needs all the fans as they can get...whether they boo or not.
hairy Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 Its the groaning that gets me too. Everytime there was a misplaced pass there was a groan. It doesn't inspire anyone, so why? All it does is undermine their confidence. Clemence suffered from the groaners and it got to him. Milan and Holloway must wonder WTF they have let themselves in for in coming here.
hairy Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 As has been mentioned before, if we got rid of every supporter that booed at some stage or another, there'd only be 10,000 in the ground. Like it or not, the club needs as many supporters as they can get, and if that means boos when the team/a player performs badly, then so be it. I'm sure the players would rather play in front of 20,000+ fans who express their opinions than 10,000 happy clappers who won't boo them when they play badly. The players may not need the booing fans, but the club needs all the fans as they can get...whether they boo or not. Utter crap! How do you express you opinion by booing? A debate with you would sound like a chimps tea party. Turning on our own players FFS, you might as well have supported Southampton if you are going to do that.
Anish Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 Its the groaning that gets me too. Everytime there was a misplaced pass there was a groan. It doesn't inspire anyone, so why? All it does is undermine their confidence. Clemence suffered from the groaners and it got to him.Milan and Holloway must wonder WTF they have let themselves in for in coming here. Jeez let's play in front of 2,000 every home game. That'd encourage the players won't it - there's nothing like seeing an empty stadium with only fans who clap and cheer irrespective of performance. We've now stooped to the level of criticising 'groaners' - any more fans you want to weed out too? How about those who don't jig along to Chelsea Dagger when we score? Or those that only clap when we score? Cos we all know clapping isn't as loud and cheering 'Yes', 'Get in' 'Yaay' etc.
Anish Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 Utter crap! How do you express you opinion by booing? A debate with you would sound like a chimps tea party.Turning on our own players FFS, you might as well have supported Southampton if you are going to do that. The most stupid question of the year. Everyone knows that you are expressing your opinion by booing. I don't even need to explain that if you can't comprehend that notion. You won't hear Mandaric come out and tell the boo boys to stay away will you? No. Because he needs as many fans through the turnstiles. Simple as. You won't ever see fans have to go through a selection process before they can come into the ground.
Dr The Singh Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 As has been mentioned before, if we got rid of every supporter that booed at some stage or another, there'd only be 10,000 in the ground. Like it or not, the club needs as many supporters as they can get, and if that means boos when the team/a player performs badly, then so be it. I'm sure the players would rather play in front of 20,000+ fans who express their opinions than 10,000 happy clappers who won't boo them when they play badly. The players may not need the booing fans, but the club needs all the fans as they can get...whether they boo or not. Agreed!! Althoug I have never booed, and find the process unnecessary, but paying fans have a right to express there feeling, however they may wish!!! Majority of fans are sensible enough, and will see sense, but Holloway must also understand the PAYING fans have put there hard earned money into a circus that has lasted over 3 years, some fans are close to giving up, and some fans like me refuse to waste my money on dire entertainment!!!! The fans don't ask for much, all that the players give there all and do what they are good at, and i'm afraid the fans frustration is being vented and will continue to, and it's the managers and players job to earn there money and earn the fans respect!!!
The Reverend Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 We,as fans, are paying customers and have every right to boo, clap, cheer, sing, whatever. I totally agree, the booing doesn't help, you could see how much it got to the players. But they are professional sportsmen, they should known how to deal with it. I felt bad for Carl Cort, because as much as he was shit, no-one deserves that. It reminded me of Kisnorbo a few years back. But as a professional, in that position, they should be thinking (when the boos start), 'Right, I'll show you ****ers', and it should help them i think. It's not the same as the Kisnorbo example though as he was being played out of position, whereas Cort is playing a position where he has done relatively well in his career when fit. But at the end of the day, we need to get behind them 100%, and they will perform, it's as simple as that.
gosfox Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 Its the groaning that gets me too. Everytime there was a misplaced pass there was a groan. It doesn't inspire anyone, so why? All it does is undermine their confidence. Clemence suffered from the groaners and it got to him.Milan and Holloway must wonder WTF they have let themselves in for in coming here. Are you the sort of person who, if they get a bad meal at a restuarant eats it leaves a tip and compliments the chef? if you get a bad pint at the pub do you drink it without complaint then order two more? If you go to a concert to watch your favorite band and they perform for only ten minutes instead of the ninety you have paid for do you clap heartily and walk away satisfied? If you can answer yes to any of these questions or similar..... you obviously consider mediocrity as a high point..... Professional football is supposedly an entertainment, professional footballers are paid to entertain, and paid well!!! The paying public have every right to complain about poor efforts. Whilst I dont personally condone booing of your own team I can garauntee that you would not be able to go to any ground in the country where fans dont get disgruntled with there own players at some times
Fez of Mahrez Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 Are you the sort of person who, if they get a bad meal at a restuarant eats it leaves a tip and compliments the chef? if you get a bad pint at the pub do you drink it without complaint then order two more? If you go to a concert to watch your favorite band and they perform for only ten minutes instead of the ninety you have paid for do you clap heartily and walk away satisfied?If you can answer yes to any of these questions or similar..... you obviously consider mediocrity as a high point..... Professional football is supposedly an entertainment, professional footballers are paid to entertain, and paid well!!! The paying public have every right to complain about poor efforts. Whilst I dont personally condone booing of your own team I can garauntee that you would not be able to go to any ground in the country where fans dont get disgruntled with there own players at some times They are completely ridiculous analogies!! People don't go to the same restaurant every week if they don't like the food!!
The People's Hero Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 They are completely ridiculous analogies!! People don't go to the same restaurant every week if they don't like the food!! Indeed, Thracipun has competition.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 I was probably a bit too quick on the old reply button there but football is a special case and I don't think you can compare it in any way to restaurants or concerts.
hairy Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 Anish and gosfox. Why do you boo, jeer and groan at the team you support? Maybe you just like to moan. I support my team. I want to see them succeed. I dont see how boo, jeering and groaning will do that so maybe you could enlighten me as to how that works. How does booing specifically express your opinion? Gosfox, if I have a dodgy pint or meal then I complain and get another, I dont sit there booing at it or the landlord, that gets you no where. I tell them what the problem is.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 Are you the sort of person who, if they get a bad meal at a restuarant eats it leaves a tip and compliments the chef? if you get a bad pint at the pub do you drink it without complaint then order two more? If you go to a concert to watch your favorite band and they perform for only ten minutes instead of the ninety you have paid for do you clap heartily and walk away satisfied?If you can answer yes to any of these questions or similar..... you obviously consider mediocrity as a high point..... Professional football is supposedly an entertainment, professional footballers are paid to entertain, and paid well!!! The paying public have every right to complain about poor efforts. Whilst I dont personally condone booing of your own team I can garauntee that you would not be able to go to any ground in the country where fans dont get disgruntled with there own players at some times This keeps coming up! Refraining from booing, hurling abuse at or berating a player does NOT equate to approving of underperformance. If someone is performing badly, is their level of performance going to be improved by them being encouraged or being told they're shite? I think most people respond more positively to the former. I don't think anyone is suggesting for a moment that players should be applauded for playing badly - it's just that they should be encouraged to do better
gosfox Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 I was probably a bit too quick on the old reply button there but football is a special case and I don't think you can compare it in any way to restaurants or concerts. OK, fair comment, but please explain WHY football is a special case
James. Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 Anish and gosfox. Why do you boo, jeer and groan at the team you support? Maybe you just like to moan.I support my team. I want to see them succeed. I dont see how boo, jeering and groaning will do that so maybe you could enlighten me as to how that works. How does booing specifically express your opinion? Gosfox, if I have a dodgy pint or meal then I complain and get another, I dont sit there booing at it or the landlord, that gets you no where. I tell them what the problem is. Ha, the image of that made me smile. They were rubbish analogies. You can go to a different restaurant or get another pint. You can't change football club. OK, fair comment, but please explain WHY football is a special case Oh come on.
Sods Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 I really hate fans booing players that are in our own team, i have never done it and never will. I cant see how people can call themselves a supporter when they start booing after 20 minutes. Are fans are so up players arses like hume and fryatt. They forget something they have done wrong. And lets face it hume hasnt been firing them in at late. Why dont we get on his back. How come our away record has been so much better then our home form this season?
Daggers Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 <anything Anish writes on this topic> Boooooooo! (there we go - by Anish's logic he will start to improve the quality of his posts and make more of an effort)
The People's Hero Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 Boooooooo!(there we go - by Anish's logic he will start to improve the quality of his posts and make more of an effort) Pah. Logic? Splogic. *retires back to General Chat, his point having been made* By the way, I've just spilt tea all over myself.
shrood Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 Booing is far from productive but when I've paid 4 hours wages for a ticket and had any off the field enjoyment I might have had nullified by the stewards/fans around me, I'll make what ever noise I want if the lazy b****ds on the field are playing like they don't want it. Of course it's a different story if I think they're giving 110% and are just getting outplayed by classier oppostion, but it's not generally the case.
Dames Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 I love how these topics always crop up after we've lost a game.
Anish Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 Anish and gosfox. Why do you boo, jeer and groan at the team you support? Maybe you just like to moan.I support my team. I want to see them succeed. I dont see how boo, jeering and groaning will do that so maybe you could enlighten me as to how that works. How does booing specifically express your opinion? Gosfox, if I have a dodgy pint or meal then I complain and get another, I dont sit there booing at it or the landlord, that gets you no where. I tell them what the problem is. Hardly anyone is saying that booing and jeering is productive - and I'm not. How else are we meant to express our disapproval? We can't have fireside chats with the players or manager and speak to them face to face can we? Booing is the only form of getting our views across. Why can't you understand that? Booing is far from productive but when I've paid 4 hours wages for a ticket and had any off the field enjoyment I might have had nullified by the stewards/fans around me, I'll make what ever noise I want if the lazy b****ds on the field are playing like they don't want it. Of course it's a different story if I think they're giving 110% and are just getting outplayed by classier oppostion, but it's not generally the case. Precisely.
gosfox Posted 3 December 2007 Posted 3 December 2007 Anish and gosfox. Why do you boo, jeer and groan at the team you support? Maybe you just like to moan. If you took the time to actually read my post then you see that I DONT condone booing at all.....however I do recognise the frustrations of supporters that do
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