Stearman to Villa

[Maybes]

Ive been waiting for this

[MPH]

If we dont end up getting Fulop.....

Use stearman as bait to get sorensen... BBC Gossip colum was also saying Sorensen was pleading to get released from his contract..

Having seen recent games i would want to keep stearman but, at least we have chambers to cover RB, right now all we have is henderson to cover GK!!

[City Fan]

Gives me an idea... how about a wip-round on Saturday (sure we could come up with a few bob).

Yeah great idea. Lets say 2000 travelling fans at the very most. Lets say they each put in a tenner (not everyone will do that), so that's £20K. Hardly goes very far towards signing Fulop does it?!?!

[davieG]

Yeah great idea. Lets say 2000 travelling fans at the very most. Lets say they each put in a tenner (not everyone will do that), so that's £20K. Hardly goes very far towards signing Fulop does it?!?!

First weeks wages , do it every week and that's sorted - now just the transfer fee to agree!

[Thracian]

So am I the only one who thinks we should keep him, Stearman takes a lot of criticism but is a solid member of our squad. I don't think we should be losing players like him which will weaken the 'first team' squad there are plenty of other players who need to be moved on without getting rid of Stearman. Money of this value shouldn't be a problem with MM if it is then he's in for a shock if he wants to get us into the Premier League.

I find it ironic that you all seem so glad to get rid of a player that has recently been called upto the U21s and is wanted by no less than MON at Aston Villa who happen to be sitting seventh in the Premier League, perhaps I'm not so wrong after all.

You're not the only one. Properly managed and in a good set-up stearman is an asset - and certainly at that price.

If the offer were £1m down and a big chunk of add ons moving up to perhaps £2.5 million then maybe but Stearman is quick, mobile and capable - far more a genuine wing-back than, say, Mattock and I'm by no means convinced we've got a replacement.

And seeing we don't look likely to sign Fulop we've not reason to sell and I don't see there'd be much sense in losing two or our better players.

Already there are signs that the anticipated rush of signings is being stalled by the reality that we're in danger of relegation and good players don't want or have to put up with that.

I'm not sure people fully realise the predicament we are in.

Players low on confidence, a new manager feeling his way but known to be dissatisfied with a good many of those players, quality signings not easy to come by, already poor results getting worse and some of the other basement teams clearly improving.

Biggest mistake? No question. Public criticism of the players. It's the kiss of death and won't be easily remedied. It was also unjustified in my view.

[The People's Hero]

Chambers is a better right back than Stearboy.

[Ric Flair]

Chambers is a better right back than Stearboy.

His defending at QPR was atrocious though. He was employed at right wing, but spent most of the time hanging about either near our corner flag or in the centre of midfield. Was the worst performance i've seen from a player meant to be playing at right wing since Josh Low when he came on against Villa last season.

Go on to Virgin Media and check out Chambers little number against Rowan Vine for their 3rd goal.

Special

Needs

[MPH]

You're not the only one. Properly managed and in a good set-up stearman is an asset - and certainly at that price.

If the offer were £1m down and a big chunk of add ons moving up to perhaps £2.5 million then maybe but Stearman is quick, mobile and capable - far more a genuine wing-back than, say, Mattock and I'm by no means convinced we've got a replacement.

And seeing we don't look likely to sign Fulop we've not reason to sell and I don't see there'd be much sense in losing two or our better players.

Already there are signs that the anticipated rush of signings is being stalled by the reality that we're in danger of relegation and good players don't want or have to put up with that.

I'm not sure people fully realise the predicament we are in.

Players low on confidence, a new manager feeling his way but known to be dissatisfied with a good many of those players, quality signings not easy to come by, already poor results getting worse and some of the other basement teams clearly improving.

Biggest mistake? No question. Public criticism of the players. It's the kiss of death and won't be easily remedied. It was also unjustified in my view.

. Stearman is NOT a genuine wing back. I actually rate j Chambers as a better wingback than stearman any day..

[Sods]

Keep him, he hasn't had the form of his 1st season, but he is still young. And probably playing 40 odd games for us this year. Ive liked how ollie has tried to get better peformances out of Stearman. And he has responded at the last two home games. Okay he wasn't that great against QPR - but was anyone. Keep him and forget about buying Fulop.

[Thracian]

Chambers is a better right back than Stearboy.

Just as Fryatt is a brilliant striker, I know!

[The People's Hero]

His defending at QPR was atrocious though.

Stearman's, McAuley's and Mattock's were worse.

Chambers wasn't much better, neither were Kisnorbo and N'Gotty but at least I can remember them making a couple of defensive contributions.

Changing this to Mattock for a moment - I've seen him quite a few times now and he doesn't seem to be able to defend. Better at defending than Sheehan (ie - he occasionally stands in the right place).

Do we need a left back?

I think so.

[mancunianfox]

Chambers is a better right back than Stearboy.

His defending at QPR was atrocious though. He was employed at right wing, but spent most of the time hanging about either near our corner flag or in the centre of midfield. Was the worst performance i've seen from a player meant to be playing at right wing since Josh Low when he came on against Villa last season.

Go on to Virgin Media and check out Chambers little number against Rowan Vine for their 3rd goal.

Special Needs

Damn right! Chambers was extremely poor on Tuesday and at fault for two of the goals yet the myth of James Chambers being our best right back continues. His defending was awful against QPR and he spent most of the time when he was supposed to be playing right wing at right back.

[Fez of Mahrez]

Damn right! Chambers was extremely poor on Tuesday and at fault for two of the goals yet the myth of James Chambers being our best right back continues. His defending was awful against QPR and he spent most of the time when he was supposed to be playing right wing at right back.

That's complete nonsense. He's not a right winger and yet his performances there are used as a stick to beat his ability at right-back with! Stearman played right wing at QPR last year and was f**king awful but you wouldn't use that to say he was a shit right-back.

[Jon the Hat]

Biggest mistake? No question. Public criticism of the players. It's the kiss of death and won't be easily remedied. It was also unjustified in my view.

Agree that the criticism was not the best idea. However, there is now an opportunity for Ollie to make it clear that the players he keeps are here becuase he believes they have what it takes. That is the key. We need to get to the end of Jan and have a squad which knows with certainty that they have a part to play, and that understands where they fit in. Players playing in position and completing with each other for their place. Not midfielders being kept out of the side by defenders and so on.

The 8 players who have been told to move on cannot come back. Also if anyone else has been told less publicly they can leave then they need to be away from the first team squad.

I think we can come back from the criticism, but it might be after the transfer window shuts again.

[davieG]

It doesn't really matter who is the best that's down to Ollie to decide what is important is that we need two reasonably competent attacking RBs which we've got unless we can sign someone as good as or better than Stearman for less money than we're likely to get for him there's really no point in selling him.

[Sods]

It doesn't really matter who is the best that's down to Ollie to decide what is important is that we need two reasonably competent attacking RBs which we've got unless we can sign someone as good as or better than Stearman for less money than we're likely to get for him there's really no point in selling him.

Pretty much sums it up

[Fez of Mahrez]

It doesn't really matter who is the best that's down to Ollie to decide what is important is that we need two reasonably competent attacking RBs which we've got unless we can sign someone as good as or better than Stearman for less money than we're likely to get for him there's really no point in selling him.

That's all well and good in theory but in practice IMO we end up playing the inferior one and playing the better one out of position, which is one of the reasons we are in this mess.

[The People's Hero]

That's all well and good in theory but in practice IMO we end up playing the inferior one and playing the better one out of position, which is one of the reasons we are in this mess.

Absofu ckinglutely.

Hallelujah.

Fez, lets move to the countryside somewhere and settle down.

[Fez of Mahrez]

Absofu ckinglutely.

Hallelujah.

Fez, lets move to the countryside somewhere and settle down.

In the countryside, they're just called slices.

[Ric Flair]

That's complete nonsense. He's not a right winger and yet his performances there are used as a stick to beat his ability at right-back with! Stearman played right wing at QPR last year and was f**king awful but you wouldn't use that to say he was a shit right-back.

We could argue though that the fact Chambers has only been picked at RB about twice all season and that when he was in the position of a right back like he was a few times at QPR, he was utter pish splash.

In his defence though, i've seen some horrendous defending from every single one of our defenders this season.

In regard to TPH, Mattock has worried me recently. We need a left back whose proven at this level ASAP.

[The People's Hero]

In the countryside, they're just called slices.

They grow on trees out there.

We could churn butter and sell it at a huge profit (just an idea).

[Fez of Mahrez]

We could argue though that the fact Chambers has only been picked at RB about twice all season and that when he was in the position of a right back like he was a few times at QPR, he was utter pish splash.

In his defence though, i've seen some horrendous defending from every single one of our defenders this season.

In regard to TPH, Mattock has worried me recently. We need a left back whose proven at this level ASAP.

Mattock has been utter garbage recently.

As for Chambers, it'd be silly to ignore his previous achievements and judge him on being played out of position all season including a couple of spells at right-back which were two of the best performances I've seen from anyone this season. I'd much rather base my opinion on those games and the times I've seen him for WBA and Watford than playing central midfield in a Megson team.

After all, if you look at the player ratings thread for the Ipswich game, a lot of people said that he helped Stearman have a good game. A few days later and suddenly he's rubbish because of a couple of mistakes. I don't buy it. People talk about buying proven players for this level and when they struggle out of position or surrounded by players out of position or have to play under four different managers or get picked when they're unfit, they're castigated (Clemence fits into this category as well).

These are the players we should be building our team around, not the likes of Stearman and Fryatt who are just average players with potential who have never achieved anything yet.

[Ric Flair]

Mattock has been utter garbage recently.

As for Chambers, it'd be silly to ignore his previous achievements and judge him on being played out of position all season including a couple of spells at right-back which were two of the best performances I've seen from anyone this season. I'd much rather base my opinion on those games and the times I've seen him for WBA and Watford than playing central midfield in a Megson team.

After all, if you look at the player ratings thread for the Ipswich game, a lot of people said that he helped Stearman have a good game. A few days later and suddenly he's rubbish because of a couple of mistakes. I don't buy it. People talk about buying proven players for this level and when they struggle out of position or surrounded by players out of position or have to play under four different managers or get picked when they're unfit, they're castigated (Clemence fits into this category as well).

These are the players we should be building our team around, not the likes of Stearman and Fryatt who are just average players with potential who have never achieved anything yet.

I actually quite like Chambers, so I don't know why i'm debating his defensive abilities. But his performance at QPR has worried me and I hope he either performs better, get's moved back to right back if need be or is dropped.

[Fez of Mahrez]

I actually quite like Chambers, so I don't know why i'm debating his defensive abilities. But his performance at QPR has worried me and I hope he either performs better, get's moved back to right back if need be or is dropped.

He shouldn't have to play in midfield. But then that's down to what Holloway does in the transfer window.

If Holloway really does think Stearman is a better right-back then I'd prefer to see a bunch of actual midfielders in midfield rather than Chambers and N'Gotty because they are just being hung up to dry at the moment with our fans.

If he can't find or afford a decent right winger then he should play Gradel there.

[Scow]

Stearman has been better of late, but I'd get rid of him - even for 500k. I still don't think he's good enough - a few fancy flicks, tricks and turns seem to deceive supporters about his ability.