filbertway Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 No no no,SUAStika. Avram Grant got a few anti jewish letters didn't he.. I wonder if they had SUASticka's on.
lildave3 Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 SUASage jockeySUASimodo Suasiland SUAStafarian.
Floating Fox Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 Why do you support Leicester ? Go and support a German team were you can sing and dance and never complain about the fans please. Fck Knoes why I am awake, but that put the first smile of the day on my face.. I know i moan on about the team but he will never be happy. We could take 7000 to Plymouth on a tuesday night and he still would find something to complain about ... The old man in the wheel chair wasn't standing up and singing. People should get off SUAS's back, ffs. So the guy feels we have mediocre support - big fucking deal? Yes, in terms of numbers, our home support is impressive considering what we as fans have been subjected to in recent years. But in terms of volume? No, our support isn't really impressive is it? Away from home - the numbers are fucking shocking a lot of the time, but the noise is good and everyone has a laugh. I'm willing to accept that having experienced both. He's perfectly entitled to his opinion on the matter as I'm sure you'll all agree, just as you are all entitled to yours. He enjoys a particular aspect of the football (standing without hassle and being extremely vocal) that he accesses elsewhere, but at heart he's still a Leicester fan and still turns up regularly regardless of form. Surely he's better inclined and more qualified to moan about these types of things considering he turns up almost all of the time and experiences it than if he never turned up yet spouted these things anyway? At the end of the day, if you have that much of a problem with what he's saying, stick him on ignore so you don't have to see it? Either that or just ignore the guy? He won't lose no sleep over it and there'll be no panties bunching up because he's stepping on toes in expressing his views. The same could be said with everyone that gets pissed off with Thracian, no? If you don't like it, don't read it or respond, sort of thing? Just a thought, like? EDIT: I don't have a list of compiled statistics to base the following comment on (mainly because I have neither the time nor the desire to get information from other clubs), but from talking to the marketing manager at Leicester, I can say that we as a club do a lot more community based work than most in our league, and that also involves running promotions for games and attracting younger supporters into the ground with offers. I'm sure Ched will also vouch for this, if needs be. Cheers for sticking up for me on this one mate. I did deserve the 'abuse' really (If thats what you call it). Constantly slagging off our fans, I'm bound to get it, and as you say, it's all I ever do on here so It's bound to grate a few people, eh Ash? The main thing I dislike, is that it can be so great & everyone enjoys themselves more when theres a good atmosphere (Take Brum at home last year). I just want it to be like that everygame, and I guess it helps that I've been to Germany and seen how it can be done as well No no no,SUAStika. :laugh: Brilliant. There Has got to be a brilliant Avatar in this somewhere! SUASage jockeySUASimodo Suasiland Or maybe in here?
Raj Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 No, they don't go to get rewarded. But I'll refer back to the people the club want to please. Would you say that the club is currently "licking the arse" of the families and young children? Especially given the recent marketing schemes? One way alot of people get introduced to football is by being taken to a game with their dad )or step dad nowadays!!!) Im sure LOADS of people on here were taken by their dads(in a non sexual way!) So why should the club not try and help out the families and young kids. It can cost ALOT of money for a family to goto football If they had a choice of spending £50 odd quid on a game to watch or food shopping for the family,what would be a priority? I just think that you have to take the fact that we do have the 4th Highest average with a rather large pinch of salt seeing as the club do very well at giving free tickets out. I believe league rules are you can only do promotions for a certain number of games. Other clubs do exactly the same as us family days, kids for a quid etc etc I never said that other clubs don't do promotions... Our club has done very well to attract fans to the walkers by doing several promotions. For example we were the first club in the country to introduce the Under8's for free & also the GrassRoots scheme that we have. The marketing dept. need a pat on their backs in my opinion. At last abit of praise!!!! Seriously, i think we just need to chill out as alot of people are actually agreeing on the same things. I wouldnt knock anyone as long as they actually go to a game now and again. I can understand people who goto all games and then get pissed off with the extra 40000 who will nip over to Cov and get congratulated by MM. I may be abit simple in my thinking,but i just hope that out of them extra 4000 we can get a few more to goto games on a regular basis thats all.... Up the Shitty!
Darkzzz_ Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 I first got introduced to Leicester by my old football manager.... He took me when i was 8 (again in a non sexual way) All my family are Liverpool fans, they just couldn't understand why i would spend my paper round money on getting the train over to Leicester to watch the games.... It's all in the heart, once you get this club in your heart you just can't shake them off.... ... They are like a drug, you just keep going back for more. I remember my dad gave me £20 when i was about 15, he said go and get yourself some new school clothes.... I kept that right until saturday where i got up early, got the train and experienced my first ever Leicester v Coventry game, on me own, front row in the Kop. It was very nerve racking, I know Cov beat us that day, i think it was 3-1.... John Hartson was amazing for the Scum.... willy puller!!! The way i look at the whole debate here is like i mentioned before, Ok, respect to the ones that travel every game Home & Away, I would love to, but it doesn't make me any less of a fan than you lot, I used to have a season ticket right up until this season, where work got in the way... I still make around 20-25 games a season, home and away....I follow my club no matter what, if i cant make the game i will listen to it... (I will admit though, soon as i get another job, i will get my season ticket back!)
Fat Ron Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 I fully understand that people have other priorities than Leicester, but in my opinion thats what makes a so called 'diehard' - Someone who will drop other commitments to watch city.I don't have anything against people that don't go because A) They don't enjoy it anymore or B) They have other things to do But if they have other things to do (As you say, Job, Family, Missus etc) why can they suddenly drop all of these commitments for the 'big' games? It's because the opposition are glamourous. I kind of understand what your saying. for the record, I didnt go to Forest or Chelsea and I wouldnt dream of dropping ,y family for football in any way shape or form. If that makes me a part time supporter or a fairweather then so be it.
andyh1884 Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 I fully understand that people have other priorities than Leicester, but in my opinion thats what makes a so called 'diehard' - Someone who will drop other commitments to watch city.I don't have anything against people that don't go because A) They don't enjoy it anymore or B) They have other things to do But if they have other things to do (As you say, Job, Family, Missus etc) why can they suddenly drop all of these commitments for the 'big' games? It's because the opposition are glamourous. I'm sorry but this is just patronising in the extreme. Perhaps when you have something other than school in the morning you might understand why not everyone can just 'drop everything' to go to every city game. I live in Coventry so I'm going to the game as it's 3 miles from my house, but having read the above, maybe I shouldn't, don't want to get accused of only going to 'big' games. I travel 50 miles for every home game, and there are quite a few others on here that do the same or more. For us, it's enough of a committment going to these, so it's hardly a surprise when we can't afford to shell out the money or time to go to away games every other week. It seems to be the modern culture where people expect something in return for anything they do. Don't you follow the club all over the country just for the love of following Leicester? Why does the club have to constantly give out warm & fuzzies in return? What would you like? Should Milan commission a plaque or statue outside the ground for the 'Burnley 800'?! I've been going to away games for 20 years, I've done more than my fair share of miserable midweek away days to places like barnsley, bolton, middlesbrough and southampton and not once has it occurred to me that the club should turn round and fall prostrate at my feet, kissing them adoringly at my dedication to the club. And what the hell is the problem of the club trying to get more fans through the door with promotions/free tickets? Would it be preferable to have 15,000 in at £25 a pop? I'm sure the atmosphere would be fantastic with a half-full stadium. Whatever people's opinion on the current atmosphere, it'd be a hell of a lot worse with 10,000-15,000 less in there. Anyone been to the early rounds of the Carling Cup at home with 8,000 there?! It ain't exactly buzzing! As has been mentioned, giving away tickets to kids is the best way to get new supporters, it's an expensive business nowadays. When I have kids, I'll take them to watch City & I'll be very grateful if the club are still doing deals like this. I'm sorry if parts of this seem like I'm being petty, I have a lot of respect for those of you who follow Leicester all over the country - I would do the same if I could - I just don't appreciate this holier-than-thou attitude that some seem to adopt towards those of us who, for whatever reason, don't/can't do the same.
Fat Ron Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 I'm sorry but this is just patronising in the extreme. Perhaps when you have something other than school in the morning you might understand why not everyone can just 'drop everything' to go to every city game.I live in Coventry so I'm going to the game as it's 3 miles from my house, but having read the above, maybe I shouldn't, don't want to get accused of only going to 'big' games. I travel 50 miles for every home game, and there are quite a few others on here that do the same or more. For us, it's enough of a committment going to these, so it's hardly a surprise when we can't afford to shell out the money or time to go to away games every other week. It seems to be the modern culture where people expect something in return for anything they do. Don't you follow the club all over the country just for the love of following Leicester? Why does the club have to constantly give out warm & fuzzies in return? What would you like? Should Milan commission a plaque or statue outside the ground for the 'Burnley 800'?! I've been going to away games for 20 years, I've done more than my fair share of miserable midweek away days to places like barnsley, bolton, middlesbrough and southampton and not once has it occurred to me that the club should turn round and fall prostrate at my feet, kissing them adoringly at my dedication to the club. And what the hell is the problem of the club trying to get more fans through the door with promotions/free tickets? Would it be preferable to have 15,000 in at £25 a pop? I'm sure the atmosphere would be fantastic with a half-full stadium. Whatever people's opinion on the current atmosphere, it'd be a hell of a lot worse with 10,000-15,000 less in there. Anyone been to the early rounds of the Carling Cup at home with 8,000 there?! It ain't exactly buzzing! As has been mentioned, giving away tickets to kids is the best way to get new supporters, it's an expensive business nowadays. When I have kids, I'll take them to watch City & I'll be very grateful if the club are still doing deals like this. I'm sorry if parts of this seem like I'm being petty, I have a lot of respect for those of you who follow Leicester all over the country - I would do the same if I could - I just don't appreciate this holier-than-thou attitude that some seem to adopt towards those of us who, for whatever reason, don't/can't do the same. Well Said!! Agree with all of this. I am proud of our Away support and am proud to be a part of it when I can, its superb that the club also recognises it IMO.
The People's Hero Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 I watch us away because 1) The Walkers is sh it. 2) We seem to actually do a bit better (not sure this is true, but it does seem that way) 3) LCFC produce more atmosphere away than at home IMO. 4) It's good to go to a few pubs with our little mob of people. In conclusion, yes, it's 80% social, 20% football.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 I'm sorry but this is just patronising in the extreme. Perhaps when you have something other than school in the morning you might understand why not everyone can just 'drop everything' to go to every city game.I live in Coventry so I'm going to the game as it's 3 miles from my house, but having read the above, maybe I shouldn't, don't want to get accused of only going to 'big' games. I travel 50 miles for every home game, and there are quite a few others on here that do the same or more. For us, it's enough of a committment going to these, so it's hardly a surprise when we can't afford to shell out the money or time to go to away games every other week. It seems to be the modern culture where people expect something in return for anything they do. Don't you follow the club all over the country just for the love of following Leicester? Why does the club have to constantly give out warm & fuzzies in return? What would you like? Should Milan commission a plaque or statue outside the ground for the 'Burnley 800'?! I've been going to away games for 20 years, I've done more than my fair share of miserable midweek away days to places like barnsley, bolton, middlesbrough and southampton and not once has it occurred to me that the club should turn round and fall prostrate at my feet, kissing them adoringly at my dedication to the club. And what the hell is the problem of the club trying to get more fans through the door with promotions/free tickets? Would it be preferable to have 15,000 in at £25 a pop? I'm sure the atmosphere would be fantastic with a half-full stadium. Whatever people's opinion on the current atmosphere, it'd be a hell of a lot worse with 10,000-15,000 less in there. Anyone been to the early rounds of the Carling Cup at home with 8,000 there?! It ain't exactly buzzing! As has been mentioned, giving away tickets to kids is the best way to get new supporters, it's an expensive business nowadays. When I have kids, I'll take them to watch City & I'll be very grateful if the club are still doing deals like this. I'm sorry if parts of this seem like I'm being petty, I have a lot of respect for those of you who follow Leicester all over the country - I would do the same if I could - I just don't appreciate this holier-than-thou attitude that some seem to adopt towards those of us who, for whatever reason, don't/can't do the same. Good post. I think also that some people have to realise that City games aren't the be all and end all for everyone. Since I left uni and can afford to go to games it's been great this season to get to as many as possible but I still haven't bothered with a lot of the long trips up north on a Tuesday night mainly because I can't take the annual leave and I don't live in Leicester so trying to use the coach travel would be a pain. It's not bandwagon-jumping, it's just reality. It doesn't apply to me personally but if you've got the above situation with mortgages, bills and family commitments on top then it's pretty hard for a teenager at college to empathise with that.
Daggers Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 I'm only going to Coventry because I hear the women there are sexy. I'm going to make big sexy party with the Coventry ladies. Then I'm going to drink all of the Coventry beer. All of it.
The People's Hero Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 I really only go to have a few beers with my homies.
andyh1884 Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 I'm only going to Coventry because I hear the women there are sexy.I'm going to make big sexy party with the Coventry ladies. Then I'm going to drink all of the Coventry beer. All of it. May I recommend Inspire? It a bar in a spire, genius. You may need a bank loan to drink all the beer in there though, it's all imported continental stuff and it's reassuringly expensive. It'll all help to make the Coventry women look more sexy though and believe me, they need all the help they can get
Darkzzz_ Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 I need to find a decent bar, where me and the missus can have a few drinks... (she will be driving so she can stick to orange juice)
Daggers Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 May I recommend Inspire? It a bar in a spire, genius.You may need a bank loan to drink all the beer in there though, it's all imported continental stuff and it's reassuringly expensive. It'll all help to make the Coventry women look more sexy though and believe me, they need all the help they can get I have had second thoughts. I am going to drink their women and shag their beer. That'll learn 'em.
Manwell Pablo Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 My missus is from Cov. Dirty Covscumer.
The People's Hero Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 My missus is from Cov.Dirty Covscumer. No wonder you spend so much time with your XBOX!
Manwell Pablo Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 No wonder you spend so much time with your XBOX! She doesn't like football thankfully. I quite often tell her this doesn't mean that she is not Covscum. She is Covscum through and through. I will continue to jeer at her when we beat them, even if "she doesn't care" as I know she'd gloat try and wind me up if Cov beat Leicester (which hasn't actually happened in the 6 odd year we've been going out)
Floating Fox Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 I'm sorry but this is just patronising in the extreme. Perhaps when you have something other than school in the morning you might understand why not everyone can just 'drop everything' to go to every city game.I live in Coventry so I'm going to the game as it's 3 miles from my house, but having read the above, maybe I shouldn't, don't want to get accused of only going to 'big' games. I travel 50 miles for every home game, and there are quite a few others on here that do the same or more. For us, it's enough of a committment going to these, so it's hardly a surprise when we can't afford to shell out the money or time to go to away games every other week. It seems to be the modern culture where people expect something in return for anything they do. Don't you follow the club all over the country just for the love of following Leicester? Why does the club have to constantly give out warm & fuzzies in return? What would you like? Should Milan commission a plaque or statue outside the ground for the 'Burnley 800'?! I've been going to away games for 20 years, I've done more than my fair share of miserable midweek away days to places like barnsley, bolton, middlesbrough and southampton and not once has it occurred to me that the club should turn round and fall prostrate at my feet, kissing them adoringly at my dedication to the club. And what the hell is the problem of the club trying to get more fans through the door with promotions/free tickets? Would it be preferable to have 15,000 in at £25 a pop? I'm sure the atmosphere would be fantastic with a half-full stadium. Whatever people's opinion on the current atmosphere, it'd be a hell of a lot worse with 10,000-15,000 less in there. Anyone been to the early rounds of the Carling Cup at home with 8,000 there?! It ain't exactly buzzing! As has been mentioned, giving away tickets to kids is the best way to get new supporters, it's an expensive business nowadays. When I have kids, I'll take them to watch City & I'll be very grateful if the club are still doing deals like this. I'm sorry if parts of this seem like I'm being petty, I have a lot of respect for those of you who follow Leicester all over the country - I would do the same if I could - I just don't appreciate this holier-than-thou attitude that some seem to adopt towards those of us who, for whatever reason, don't/can't do the same. I don't think you understood what I said. I said that I clearly understand why people can't go to every game, or don't want to. It is not a case of attending EVERY game. I was trying to say that I don't understand why so many people say that they have commitments, but yet when we are playing Chelsea, these commitments don't matter? Why do the commitments matter when we are playing Hull away? It's about the opposition! I don't attend everygame, and I think the people that goto Crazy Midweeks like Ipswich & Burnley are mad (I attended one of those for the record). I understand that some people, outside Leicester, each home game is a fair treck & that it will almost be an away game in the fact that they have to travel so far, but they make up a fairly small group of our fans. I personally couldn't care less If Milan didn't say a thing, but I dislike how he comes accross when all the BangWagon jumpers go to games. I go to the games, because on the whole I enjoy myself and I have this team in my blood. I never criticed the clubs policy on attracting kids to home games, I said earlier in this thread that they deserve applause & are one of the best in the country at doing so. They are the future of this club. Their plan is not sustainable, but that is a compltly different matter, which I could go on & on about... I don't see what your going on about with attendences, The more people in the ground, doesn't mean the atmosphere will be better. Sure I have been to CCup games at home, and they are shite, but that isn't the point.
crisp monster Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 i have a young family and i have to plan most of the games that i attend when i look at the fixture list i look at the games and plan them according to my responsibilities at home. i didn't go too the league cup games but i must admit they were more appealing than some of the league games that i actually went to ie Stoke and QPR. i used to go week in week out and travelled all over the country (during the Pleat,Little and MON eras) but things are now different and i will look at the more appealing games if i'm going to take the trouble to leave my family for the afternoon. well done Standup if you've been travelling and getting behind the lads but from an earlier post you don't seem to attend home games and put much needed revenue into your beloved club. i bet MM wish he had a few thousand more like you
davieG Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 I don't think you understood what I said.I said that I clearly understand why people can't go to every game, or don't want to. It is not a case of attending EVERY game. I was trying to say that I don't understand why so many people say that they have commitments, but yet when we are playing Chelsea, these commitments don't matter? Why do the commitments matter when we are playing Hull away? It's about the opposition! I don't attend everygame, and I think the people that goto Crazy Midweeks like Ipswich & Burnley are mad (I attended one of those for the record). I understand that some people, outside Leicester, each home game is a fair treck & that it will almost be an away game in the fact that they have to travel so far, but they make up a fairly small group of our fans. I personally couldn't care less If Milan didn't say a thing, but I dislike how he comes accross when all the BangWagon jumpers go to games. I go to the games, because on the whole I enjoy myself and I have this team in my blood. I never criticed the clubs policy on attracting kids to home games, I said earlier in this thread that they deserve applause & are one of the best in the country at doing so. They are the future of this club. Their plan is not sustainable, but that is a compltly different matter, which I could go on & on about... I don't see what your going on about with attendences, The more people in the ground, doesn't mean the atmosphere will be better. Sure I have been to CCup games at home, and they are shite, but that isn't the point. Strange as it may seem there are people that go to a football match to be entertained, taking that into account it's seems fairly simple to suss out why they might choose not to attend a league game against Hull but would go to a Cup game against Chelsea. Our recent, last 4 years performances away from home have more often than not been beyond crap Our recent performances against higher opposition in the Cup have been by and large outstanding. The chance to see live top international players For some a ground they've not been to or likely to for a number of years the way we are performing A day out/piss up with your mates in London. So when you place that against personal commitments people might think this is a chance not to be missed and are therefore prepared to pay the sacrifice. Just to say I didn't go to either! A day out in London
Floating Fox Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 well done Standup if you've been travelling and getting behind the lads but from an earlier post you don't seem to attend home games and put much needed revenue into your beloved club.i bet MM wish he had a few thousand more like you That is more down to a disagreement with the club, and the people who run it. They don't deserve my money
RowlattsFox Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 I was trying to say that I don't understand why so many people say that they have commitments, but yet when we are playing Chelsea, these commitments don't matter?Why do the commitments matter when we are playing Hull away? It's about the opposition! Because some people can only drop their other commitments a couple of times a season, so why they shouldn't choose the big games to do that.
andyh1884 Posted 22 February 2008 Posted 22 February 2008 I don't think you understood what I said.I said that I clearly understand why people can't go to every game, or don't want to. It is not a case of attending EVERY game. ..and then go on about 'diehards' who can drop everything to watch city, when, for most people, that isn't in any way possible. To me it seemed that you were implying that if you were any sort of a fan you'd sack off everything else to watch leicester. Maybe you weren't, but that's how it came across to me. I was trying to say that I don't understand why so many people say that they have commitments, but yet when we are playing Chelsea, these commitments don't matter?Why do the commitments matter when we are playing Hull away? It's about the opposition! In some ways you're right, but when you look at the cup games, 3 of the 4 games (I'm including both Forest games here) were midlands-based, these are always going to get more fans going due to the ease with which people can get to them, especially when they're mid-week. As Fez said, people can't always get to them due to work committments, not being able to get annual leave etc. In the league, most games considered 'big' will be midlands games, where again, the same applies to ease of attendance. People have other priorities which means a trip to, say, Hull taking out an entire day and some people can't spare 1 whole day of a weekend. I personally couldn't care less If Milan didn't say a thing, but I dislike how he comes accross when all the BangWagon jumpers go to games. I go to the games, because on the whole I enjoy myself and I have this team in my blood. Once again, it's that attitude towards less-regular attendees with the bandwagon jumpers comment. I never criticed the clubs policy on attracting kids to home games, I said earlier in this thread that they deserve applause & are one of the best in the country at doing so. They are the future of this club. Their plan is not sustainable, but that is a compltly different matter, which I could go on & on about...I don't see what your going on about with attendences, The more people in the ground, doesn't mean the atmosphere will be better. Sure I have been to CCup games at home, and they are shite, but that isn't the point. No, but you did say that the only reason our attendances were so good was because of the free tickets. To me your comment about 'No-one does the freebies like us.' implied it was a bad thing to try & get as many people in the ground as possible. You say the marketing department deserves a pat on the back for attracting fans to the Walkers and yet say that because of these promotions etc we should discount our position in the attendance tables. My point about the atmosphere was that it may not improve with more people in the ground, but would it get better if there were no free tickets/promotions and therefore less people there? I agree you did praise Leicester's tickets-for-kids policy, but you crack about freebies meant I glossed over that.
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