The Swing

[Daggers]

Where are we now? After Rik's outburst that Ollie should be gone for playing Mattock in the reserves last Wednesday, the man has picked up 4 from 6 points and has us high in the form table.

So - who now wants Ollie out?

I, as ever, want him to stay until this time next year (at the earliest) but I'm interested to see how our fickleness is changing.

[Koke]

In hindsight, Ric was right though. Clapham is a liability and Mattock is just the better of the two.

As for Ollie, I've always maintained and argued that Ollie should stay, and I still do

[Daggers]

In hindsight, Ric was right though.

We'll agree to differ on that one - Ric is like a barometer filled with nitro-glycerine, one tap too many and *BOOM*

[Raj]

In the concourse yeah..at Barnsley,yeah..well that karim bloke,you know the tall black lad,well he said he hated Ollie and said he wanted him out,so dont believe what he says yeah.

Personally i'd want any manager to stay through the summer...but the cvnt better keep us up first!

[Koke]

In the concourse yeah..at Barnsley,yeah..well that karim bloke,you know the tall black lad,well he said he hated Ollie and said he wanted him out,so dont believe what he says yeah.

Personally i'd want any manager to stay through the summer...but the cvnt better keep us up first!

Always knew you were a twat

[Corky]

I think Holloway should stay, as in a few years time he will be leading us to European Cup glory, to go alongside the Premier League title we will pick up.

Ollie's Army!!!

[BigGibbo]

Who the f@cks rick?

(& Mattock is better than Clapham)

[volpeazzurro]

Who the f@cks rick?

(& Mattock is better than Clapham)

If we stay up it will be despite Ollie not because of him, so it's still bye bye Ollie from me I'm afraid.

[BigGibbo]

If we stay up it will be despite Ollie not because of him, so it's still bye bye Ollie from me I'm afraid.

& rick?

[SamL]

Some of his tactics have been a bit off, but I'd like to give him time and see what he can do.

I'd give him until at least Christmas to see how he's doing. Give him the summer to build his squad and we'll judge him come Christmas.

I'd rather play Mattock over Clapham though.

[Raj]

& rick?

Everyone knows who fcuking Rick is

[Daggers]

Everyone knows who fcuking Rick is

[Kilworthfox]

He's the lead singer from Status Quo isn't he?

[Chimp]

Who the f@cks rick?

This is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

[step]

Dont just concider the one cockup.

Ask your self if ollie stays, where will we be this time next season.

I think we will be in the same position, so for me get him out.

[Joe.]

He should be allowed to stay, do what he he has to do in the summer and then be judged.

[Thracian]

Where are we now? After Rik's outburst that Ollie should be gone for playing Mattock in the reserves last Wednesday, the man has picked up 4 from 6 points and has us high in the form table.

So - who now wants Ollie out?

I, as ever, want him to stay until this time next year (at the earliest) but I'm interested to see how our fickleness is changing.

I cannot see why one arguably lucky result at Barnsley changes anything.

If people tell the truth he'd have been pilloried anyway for replacing Hume with N'Gotty had the move backfired.

But we still occupy a lower position in the table than when he arrived, our team still looks nervous and stuttering rather than convincing and some of his decisions and tactics have cost us points that might even now cost us our status.

We remain in a shameful position, there is no getting away from it and while every morsel of comfort in our desperate fight for survival is welcomed and understandably celebrated, our situation is really damning of almost everything that has gone on this season.

All that matters concerning Holloway is whether people think he's clever enough to do the job - not of keeping us away from the relegation places but of steering us into the top six.

I'm not convinced. As one who wanted someone like Ince, Keegan or Newell I think he's too cautious, tactically suspect, seems inconsistent in things he says and I'm not sure he will bring our youth players through either because I don't think he has sufficient faith in them nor the inspirational qualities to lift the best out of them.

This last point is not proven yet, just suspected from his actions so far, but I'm quite sure of the other three on the evidence. Question remains though, if not Holloway, who is there better who'd be willing to come? And will Mandaric be overseeing the decisions anyway?

I didn't vote. We seem to have a sounder foundation now and I wouldn't want another change without the right replacement.

I'm sick of hedging-type managers and Holloway's no worse (apart from his recnt record) than the others we've had.

[davieG]

I really believe that stability is the key but it's equally important to invest that stability in someone you can trust to do the job. Everything about Ollie suggests that the job is too big for him, he seems in awe of the ground, the training facilities, the fan level even the players he now has at his disposal, to me he is a corner shopkeeper and he's been successful in that role but we need a budding Captain of Industry.

I think he has failed miserably, not in failing to get us into the play-offs or even the top half of the table but simply by taking us lower down the league despite significant investment in the team.

[Master Fox]

Cut his testicles off and eat them with chips and gravy.

Oh, he should probably hang around for a while.

[Thracian]

I really believe that stability is the key but it's equally important to invest that stability in someone you can trust to do the job. Everything about Ollie suggests that the job is too big for him, he seems in awe of the ground, the training facilities, the fan level even the players he now has at his disposal, to me he is a corner shopkeeper and he's been successful in that role but we need a budding Captain of Industry.

I think he has failed miserably, not in failing to get us into the play-offs or even the top half of the table but simply by taking us lower down the league despite significant investment in the team.

He's certainly working hard in that boat though!

[davieG]

He's certainly working hard in that boat though!

Perhaps I should have said he's a Ferryman and we need a Captain of a cruise ship.

[maddog]

I really believe that stability is the key but it's equally important to invest that stability in someone you can trust to do the job. Everything about Ollie suggests that the job is too big for him, he seems in awe of the ground, the training facilities, the fan level even the players he now has at his disposal, to me he is a corner shopkeeper and he's been successful in that role but we need a budding Captain of Industry.

I think he has failed miserably, not in failing to get us into the play-offs or even the top half of the table but simply by taking us lower down the league despite significant investment in the team

I think stability is important but also think that it won't unsettle the team if we bring in a new manager as long as he is in there for the whole of pre-season with the players.

We need a manager will who will take us by the scruff of the neck and transform us into a side that can actually compete in a promotion race and be there or there abouts with a few games to go in a season. From what i've seen, the poor signings Ollie has made, the tactics, the results etc it just aint Ollie.

I would class Oakley and Howard as poor signings, they have been fooking shit in the last month or so.

The Hungarians where the hell are they now? Why isn't Zsolt playing? He clearly looks the best player in the warm up, and Bori has been solid in all his appearences yet is no where now.

Sticking with Ollie for another season will just mean another relegation battle.

Nothing Ollie does for the remainder of the season will change my view, not even 2 wins to finish off, he has done too poorly. Ince or Davies or Ferguson please Milan

[Daggers]

I cannot see why one arguably lucky result at Barnsley changes anything.

I don't see where the 'arguably' comes from? It was a hard-fought and well-earned victory resulting from an outstanding team goal created in open play. Anyone that saw the match will attest that it was exciting and sphincter-clenching - in other words: good value for money.

Where 'one result' comes into play is that there have been two matches since the last poll where 2/3's of people who voted (the last time I looked) expressed an opinion for Holloway to stay and I am interested (bearing in mind the fickle nature of our support) to see if that has increased to 3/4's.

I fail to see either how Holloway can be judged on our relative position in the League. We can use business analogies or go for more dramatic oil tankers at sea, the upshot is that anyone who has witnessed rot in an organisation knows - change takes time. Our culture had become corrupted by Kelly's heroes, in turn building on failures that went before.

Maybe someone like Ince would have done differently - but I really fail to see how he could have turned Casino Jim and the Legion of Right Backs into anything approaching a better team than IH has managed.

He's made some questionable decisions - Hume on the right-wing being the biggest for me - but I see no value in throwing the baby out with the bath water. Do I think Holloway has learned from his time? Yes I do. Likewise, I reckon Mandaric has learned one or two things as well.

Here's to a summer of goodness, of decent squad strengthening and a push for mid-table mediocrity next season

[maddog]

I don't see where the 'arguably' comes from? It was a hard-fought and well-earned victory resulting from an outstanding team goal created in open play. Anyone that saw the match will attest that it was exciting and sphincter-clenching - in other words: good value for money.

Where 'one result' comes into play is that there have been two matches since the last poll where 2/3's of people who voted (the last time I looked) expressed an opinion for Holloway to stay and I am interested (bearing in mind the fickle nature of our support) to see if that has increased to 3/4's.

I fail to see either how Holloway can be judged on our relative position in the League. We can use business analogies or go for more dramatic oil tankers at sea, the upshot is that anyone who has witnessed rot in an organisation knows - change takes time. Our culture had become corrupted by Kelly's heroes, in turn building on failures that went before.

Maybe someone like Ince would have done differently - but I really fail to see how he could have turned Casino Jim and the Legion of Right Backs into anything approaching a better team than IH has managed.

He's made some questionable decisions - Hume on the right-wing being the biggest for me - but I see no value in throwing the baby out with the bath water. Do I think Holloway has learned from his time? Yes I do. Likewise, I reckon Mandaric has learned one or two things as well.

Here's to a summer of goodness, of decent squad strengthening and a push for mid-table mediocrity next season

mid-table mediocrity will not be good enough next season. We have spent millions this year and if the right money is spent, and players are signed in the summer, we should really be pushing for promotion. And why not? We need a decent manager though, which Ollie has proved to me he's not. If Ferguson can get Peterborough promoted by signing 9 non-League players and spending very little, imagine what he could do spending £5 million here. Great things. Ollie isn't good enough to get us promoted out of this division in my opinion.

[Dr The Singh]

I'm not gonna put any targets on next season, what I want to see is players 'die for there shirts' week in week out, that itself would be a massive improvement!!