Ollie's knockers

[Jimmy]

Oh my day`s you having a laugh? Royle - what has this guy ever achieved? tigana - been out of the game far too long Collins - has never managed in English league and not enough experience Davies - Not good enough to keep Derby in the prem so why good enough for us? If you Said Paul Ince then I might have thought u had some sense.

a combination of Mourinho, Fergie, Wenger and Benitez couldn't of kept Derby up, they simply didn't have the players

[Suffolk_fox]

Come on - all of you carping on that he should be sacked, explain to me this:

• Why, when there is no decent, reasonable suggestion for his replacement?
  

And

• Where is the severance money coming from with a drop in revenue at the club? The Contract Termination Fairy?
  

Someone explain to me how being one million pounds worse off and not having a management team is better than what we currently have because I am ****ed if I can understand your logic.

Please. :huh

Can answers not include reference to his tactics, his record, his salary not being cut or his appearances in the media. Oh, and no mention of Bristol Rovers. Thanks

A lot of the people who want Holloway sacked are the same people who, because they can't see past their own noses, didn't want Warnock here - the same Warnock who this season took a club from the relegation zone to Promotion land.....

[Webbo]

How about Newell?

He's not wholly unrealistic... after all, nobody has touched him with a 10' barge pole since he departed Luton last year. It shouldn't take too much to get his interest... He could always 'do a Megson'. We could drag him back from the wilderness, get his name back into the public conscience once more and then let him wander off to another club earning us a few pennies to spend on (yet) another manager.

Not my favourite candidate... but he's not beyond our pulling power, I don't think...

Newell has spoken out about the bung culture in football.

Mandaric, arrested and questioned about bungs in football. Do the maths.

[Houdini Logic]

I can not believe that a man who has been through the playing and managerial career that Holloway has can be described as having "the tactical aptitude of a national lottery pen"? I'm not even sure what the analogy means.

The financial trade off is an important consideration - but I'm guessing you have never had to make a decision of that magnitude? I reckon it's easier to make when it is someone else's money on the line...don't make it the right one though.

Did you go to Stoke?

Every Leicester fan was screaming at Holloway to make a change with 30 minutes to go, 20 minutes to go, 10 minutes to go....

Holloway's tactical decisions are poor and very often stubborn - if you can't see that then i don't know where you've been

[davieG]

Steve Tilson - had promotions from this league and managed in the Championship with minimal resources

Dave Penney - been successful at Doncaster & Darlington in the mode of Brian Little

Sean O'Driscoll - currently enjoying success at Doncaster

John Ward - Experienced having been assistant to Graham Taylor, Josef Venglos, Dave Jones he got Cheltenham promoted and currently having some success at Carlisle.

Stuart Gray - Short spell in charge of Southampton been assistant to Glen Hoddle & Dave Jones currently doing a decent job at Northampton

Gary Waddock - long shot really, has worked with Holloway and at least managed to keep QPR up after Ollie was sacked, done a tremendous job at Aldershot.

I'd be happy giving Penney or Tilson a go.

[Webbo]

Did you go to Stoke?

Every Leicester fan was screaming at Holloway to make a change with 30 minutes to go, 20 minutes to go, 10 minutes to go....

Holloway's tactical decisions are poor and very often stubborn - if you can't see that then i don't know where you've been

Every fan can pick a better team, employ better tactics than any manager. Unfortunately/fortunately their team never plays so it can't be proven either way.

[demon_dog]

What manager would want to come here?

I think you could virtually forget anyone who plys their trade in the Championship / Premiership.

Get real we are now in the third tier of the football league.

Maybe someone from a lower league club who is working their way up and shows the passion, desire and tactical nous is a better idea.

Depending on the play offs how about someone like Dave Penney or Paul Lambert, both I'm sure would relish the chance to manage someone like us.

I think that no matter who the manager is, we will not get automatic promotion next season.

As a club we are no longer "a big club" as many people say, lets face up to reality, it will probably take us about 3 years to get back into the championship, as Forest have found out, it's not as easy as you think.

I hope I'm wrong, would love to see us bounce straght back up, but am resigned to a couple of years at our new found level.

[Corky]

Oh my day`s you having a laugh? Royle - what has this guy ever achieved? tigana - been out of the game far too long Collins - has never managed in English league and not enough experience Davies - Not good enough to keep Derby in the prem so why good enough for us? If you Said Paul Ince then I might have thought u had some sense.

Royle got Oldham into the top flight, kept them there for three years, two FA Cup semi-finals and a League Cup final. Won the Fa Cup with Everton and finished sixth in his first full season. Won back-to-back promotions with Man City, and got to two play-offs with Ipswich. Not much I'll grant you that

Tigana may have been out of the game a while, but still won promotion with Fulham and kept them up.

Collins did well with Hibs, and Davies got Preston to two play-offs, one final in that time, and won the play-offs with Derby in his first season.

So no we're not having a laugh, we are suggesting good managers who could do well for our club.

[Webbo]

Royle got Oldham into the top flight, kept them there for three years, two FA Cup semi-finals and a League Cup final. Won the Fa Cup with Everton and finished sixth in his first full season. Won back-to-back promotions with Man City, and got to two play-offs with Ipswich. Not much I'll grant you that

Hoof ball has been.

Tigana may have been out of the game a while, but still won promotion with Fulham and kept them up.

Don't be so fooking ridiculous

Collins did well with Hibs,

Up and coming Scottish manager,does the name Craig Levien ring a bell?

[Guest]

Davies - Not good enough to keep Derby in the prem so why good enough for us?

Because, and this may have escaped your notice, we're no longer in the Prem.

He got Preston promoted to the Championship, and took them to the play-offs. If that on your CV isn't good enough for you, you'd better hope that someone like Fergie is looking for a bigger challenge once he's finished with Manure.

[Corky]

Because, and this may have escaped your notice, we're no longer in the Prem.

He got Preston promoted to the Championship, and took them to the play-offs. If that on your CV isn't good enough for you, you'd better hope that someone like Fergie is looking for a bigger challenge once he's finished with Manure.

Sorry Lisa, but he didn't. David Moyes got them promoted to the Championship, Davies just took them from mid-table to the play-offs straight away. I honestly cannot stand the man, but he's a good manager and would do well here.

[davieG]

Up and coming Scottish manager,does the name Craig Levien ring a bell?

So was Tony Mowbray - you can't dismiss all managers of a particular just becasue one failed.

[Guest]

Sorry Lisa, but he didn't. David Moyes got them promoted to the Championship, Davies just took them from mid-table to the play-offs straight away. I honestly cannot stand the man, but he's a good manager and would do well here.

You'll have to excuse me, there's been a lot of alcohol consumed since then, plus at my age, it's hard to remember what day of the week it is.

[Daggers]

Did you go to Stoke?

Every Leicester fan was screaming at Holloway to make a change with 30 minutes to go, 20 minutes to go, 10 minutes to go....

Holloway's tactical decisions are poor and very often stubborn - if you can't see that then i don't know where you've been

As I have said - the reasons for his tactical choices at Stoke were understandable. You may not agree with them but had things panned out at Southampton we would have been celebrating taking a point from a table topping side and this discussion would be redundant as I believe Holloway would have been sacked.

Now we face a different challenge and this bloke has direct experience of overseeing a drop and then rebuilding for a promotion. I think we would be daft to discount that knowledge although I am happy to agree that his tactics seemed 'odd' on more than one occaision. I have to suppose that there were things happening outside of our knowledge and outside his control because he does not have a history of producing tactics like that. Some will, and have, argued that it is down to the fact that he "lost it" and was "over-awed by managing at such a big club" - I have a problem accepting this as valid...but that doesn't mean that it might not be the case.

[Daggers]

David Moyes

Everytime I hear that name I picture Chris Moyles.

Can we never use it again?

Please?

[Corky]

Everytime I hear that name I picture Chris Moyles.

Can we never use it again?

Please?

There is nothing wrong with Chris Moyles, apart from him being obnoxious, crude, unfunny and a bore.

[Webbo]

So was Tony Mowbray - you can't dismiss all managers of a particular just becasue one failed.

True but it also proves that just because you've been successful in Scotland (or any where else) that you will be successful here.

[Guest]

There is nothing wrong with Chris Moyles, apart from him being obnoxious, crude, unfunny and a bore.

You missed out obscenely fat and ugly.

Miaow.

[davieG]

True but it also proves that just because you've been successful in Scotland (or any where else) that you will be successful here.

Did somebody say it did!

You're the one making the generalisations not me.

[Mr Happy]

This season, for me, Ollies been one of two people I've felt badly let down by (the other being Howard.) These two were brought in with fans expectations being high (maybe thats our problem we just keep havin gour expectations set too high ) Howard bagged 19 goals in the champ for derby and Ollie had just taken plymouth into the play-offs. We should of known then that because they were doing so well they'd not repeat that success here, its always the same with leicester city. Now whilst these two will/should be successful enough for us in league1 I just feel that we shouldn't keep them for our lowest league campaign in history. IMO, and i'm sure many others, relegation is the lowest point in our history but its not that unexpected I mean the last four seasons were showing that eventually we were going to feel how forest and leeds have recently felt and all city fans are feeling like this because... the players/manager didn't do their job. Its all very well and good them coming out now and saying 'Sorry' 'We'll get city back up' etc but we wouldn't be in this mess if their'd done what their payed to do. Imagine if the Police or Fire Brigade sat back and let murderers and fires kill people then just publicly came out saying 'Sorry' its just not on, the persons still dead and their families hurting. Frankly thats how I felt - dead. All my passion and patience was drained and my faith in Ollie and Howard evaporated because they didn't really do anything against stoke that showed any signs of fighting back. Ollie played a tactically stupid line up and Howard was so ineffective he was hardly mentioned all game. I believe that Ollies lost our dressing room and Howard is happy just, like flab douglas, to sit here and collect his big pay cheque. I'd not sack them though, like its been said where do we get the money from but also like I said they both will do alright in this league but if their not going to improve their attitudes towards their jobs and repay the fans patience and loyalty with promotion next season then I'd fully expect these two to resign.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

Oh my day`s you having a laugh? Royle - what has this guy ever achieved? tigana - been out of the game far too long Collins - has never managed in English league and not enough experience Davies - Not good enough to keep Derby in the prem so why good enough for us? If you Said Paul Ince then I might have thought u had some sense.

Are you being completely serious?

And can everyone please pull their dicks out of Paul Ince for a minute?

[Webbo]

Did somebody say it did!

You're the one making the generalisations not me.

Somebody's a grumpy bum today

The point I was trying to make to the anybody but Ollie brigade was that just picking names out of the air that have been successful else where does not automatically mean an improvement on what we've already got.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

Somebody's a grumpy bum today

The point I was trying to make to the anybody but Ollie brigade was that just picking names out of the air that have been successful else where does not automatically mean an improvement on what we've already got.

Bar Collins, none of them names were plucked from the air; We have been heavily linked with Davies, Tigana, and Royle, especially after Megson's departure.

[davieG]

Somebody's a grumpy bum today

The point I was trying to make to the anybody but Ollie brigade was that just picking names out of the air that have been successful else where does not automatically mean an improvement on what we've already got.

I'm not grumpy, I just stated a fact.

How do you know these people have been picked out of the air? As for managers in general there's no guarantee anyone including Holloway will be successful it's always going to be gamble but that in itself is not a reason for not changing.

To me it's down to the degree of confidence you have in the potential candidates, I would assume that those that don't want Holloway would prefer to put their confidence in someone esle, like wise those that want Holloway to stay must have confidence in him. Although those that say give him a go, give him ten games, give hime until Christmas seem to be short on confidence and are working on 'the better the devil you know' theory.

[Daggers]

...seem to be short on confidence and are working on 'the better the devil you know' theory.

That's me.