Ollie's knockers

[Daggers]

Lets just hope that Milan 'Won't get fooled again' :-)

I think Milan told Ollie that he didn't want anymore "La-La-La Lies"

"It's Not True" said Ollie, while Mandy considered "A Legal Matter"

I need to appeal to "My Generation" said Mandy, referring to davieG and Thracian

In which case, added the Olliemeister "The Kids Are Alright" to go for the first team next season.

Right, I'm off to fiddle about, fiddle about...

[Ultra]

Me. I do not think Holloway possesses the qualities to succeed. Right now, we need a manager to take the club and players into the reality of the situation. Every team will be wanting to beat us next season and will think nothing of kicking us off the park. We will need some real leadership, tactical nous and character to get our team into the right mentality. For me, Holloway will not do this.

Absolutely. He took THREE seasons to get out of this league the last time he was in it.

We're in danger of making the same mistakes that Forest did when they went down to League 1.

[Guest]

I'm still waiting for someone to come up with the answer to all of our problems.

[The Reverend]

I'm still waiting for someone to come up with the answer to all of our problems.

You wont get one, thats why. You'll get a load of idiots talking bollocks, but never a striaght answer on how to improve the situation.

The truth is, they have no more idea than Holloway or Mandaric.

[davieG]

You wont get one, thats why. You'll get a load of idiots talking bollocks, but never a striaght answer on how to improve the situation.

The truth is, they have no more idea than Holloway or Mandaric.

I've lost count of the number of times I've posted why I don't want Holloway to continue, all logical and well thought out reasons and who I'd prefer in his place, all realistic options but it seems there are just as many pro Holloway people who aren't prepared to listen or simply ignore coherent arguments and only proffer the stability angle as their reason for him to stay.

If all that makes me an idiot fine it's already included in my signature along with pathetic and turd brain as examples of the intellect brigade on here.

[Guest]

I've lost count of the number of times I've posted why I don't want Holloway to continue, all logical and well thought out reasons and who I'd prefer in his place, all realistic options but it seems there are just as many pro Holloway people who aren't prepared to listen or simply ignore coherent arguments and only proffer the stability angle as there reason for him to stay.

All of the alternatives that I have seen mentioned are either

- already out of work, and in my opinion, would be no better than IH.

or

- already in paid employment, and why they would move to come here with the pressure of an owner who has gone through managers in the way most fans go through underpants, I don't know.

or

- would probably laugh at the chance to join 3rd division Leicester City.

All this stuff from the chief exec about us being a big draw is nonsense. We're nothing.

[iancognito]

David Moyes never got anyone relegated. And he had less to spend.

Everton were close to it two out of three years and survived on the last day both times. But for the grace of God, he could've taken them out of the top flight for the first time in 120 odd years. Six inches the other side of a post last week and we wouldn't have gone down, the margins are that slim. Moyes has done an excellent job but spent a few bob doing it.

And he had less to spend.

Howard, Baines, Lescott, Jagielka, Valente, Neville, Arteta, Cahill, Johnson, Yakubu. Yeah, shoestring!

The only valid options to Holloway I've heard are Mike Newell and John Ward.

Tigana wouldn't do 3rd division and would cost too much, Joe Royle is a good guy but too old to be at the helm for years to come, McAllister has Leeds, why would he come to us? Some poor misguided ba$tard said Allardyce the other day. Why would Allardycio drop down to our level.

We aren't famous any more, no-one wants our poison chalice of a job, or wants to work for our sack-happy Chairman. And for everything anyone says about getting us relegated, he also got QPR promoted from this shithole league. His name is Ian Holloway not Ian Scapegoat. Yes, he played his part but so did 40 odd players, the chairman and the rest of the club. Stop pinning the blame on one man and give him a break.

You're the same people who shouted "Fu<k off you Forest ba$tard!" at O'Neill and spat at Brian Little as we tumbled to the lowly depths of sixth in the old League Two. You NEVER learn.

[Father Ted]

I'm getting bad vibes. He's staying isn't he?

Looking like it

[dandannieldanok]

I'm still waiting for someone to come up with the answer to all of our problems.

It's not Holloway IMO, and just because there is no obvious candidate to replace him it doesn't mean the best thing for the club is to stick with him. Pre-season generally starts at the beginning of July, if Mandaric disposed of Holloway he'd have over a month to find someone, thats long enough for a man that's acts as quickly as he does. Anyway, it's arguable that some managers available now would be better than Holloway, Mike Newell and dare I say Iain Dowie would have kept us up IMO, but as always it's a matter of personal opinion.

[Jimmy]

No. Absolutely not. Are these guys qualified to manage a professional football team for a start?

Spirit is nothing without application.

I think Taggs is but I may be wrong though

[Guest]

It's not Holloway IMO, and just because there is no obvious candidate to replace him it doesn't mean the best thing for the club is to stick with him. Pre-season generally starts at the beginning of July, if Mandaric disposed of Holloway he'd have over a month to find someone, thats long enough for a man that's acts as quickly as he does. Anyway, it's arguable that some managers available now would be better than Holloway, Mike Newell and dare I say Iain Dowie would have kept us up IMO, but as always it's a matter of personal opinion.

I honestly believe that MM doesn't have a clue who he could bring in to sort this team out, and it's easier to stick with what he's got. After all, if we aren't up there 6 games in, it will be a lot easier to sack last season's boss than it would be to bring in someone new and have to go through the whole malarcky again.

I think he's damned if he does, and he's damned if he doesn't. I'm glad I didn't have to make the decision.

[Guest]

I think Taggs is but I may be wrong though

I thought he was doing his badges, but hadn't got them. It still doesn't alter the fact that he doesn't have any experience. People moan enough about experienced managers ballsing up without sticking in a rooky who could make a real hash of it.

[Father Ted]

Howard, Baines, Lescott, Jagielka, Valente, Neville, Arteta, Cahill, Johnson, Yakubu. Yeah, shoestring!

Yes, only a few bob and could only sign 10 players!

[Jimmy]

I thought he was doing his badges, but hadn't got them. It still doesn't alter the fact that he doesn't have any experience. People moan enough about experienced managers ballsing up without sticking in a rooky who could make a real hash of it.

its only in the Prem where you HAVE to have the A licence, out side that I don't think it matters and he'd have the time to get them anyway

not that I want him in the job just thought he had the legal requirements to do so

I favoured Bond, though his record has been shown to be worse then what we have, so realistically, Dave Penny, Richard Money or Paul Ince would probably be more than capable of getting us promoted

[LeeCovFox]

:clap:

I've tried to sum it up like that but ended up repeating myself and swearing e.g. we should keep fooking Ollie

By the way just in case you didn't see my sig the other day I'm sorry for saying you were one of the ones slagging Ollie off.

I'm all for Holloway staying mate, but I'm not fooking him.

[Guest]

its only in the Prem where you HAVE to have the A licence, out side that I don't think it matters and he'd have the time to get them anyway

not that I want him in the job just thought he had the legal requirements to do so

I favoured Bond, though his record has been shown to be worse then what we have, so realistically, Dave Penny, Richard Money or Paul Ince would probably be more than capable of getting us promoted

I can't see any up and coming manager leaving to come to us. It's a poisoned chalice.

[davieG]

I honestly believe that MM doesn't have a clue who he could bring in to sort this team out, and it's easier to stick with what he's got. After all, if we aren't up there 6 games in, it will be a lot easier to sack last season's boss than it would be to bring in someone new and have to go through the whole malarcky again.

I think he's damned if he does, and he's damned if he doesn't. I'm glad I didn't have to make the decision.

Not that I particularly favour Taggart but I would have thought that a high proportion of teams in Leagues 1 & 2 employ managers with little or no experience.

These were some ideas I posted, I'm sure the majority of whom would jump at the chance to manage Leicester. True some are currently involved in play-offs and they would be a risk, who wouldn't be? But I'd prefer to take the risk rather than stick with someone who was clearly not up to the job.

Steve Tilson - had promotions from this league and managed in the Championship with minimal resources

Dave Penney - been successful at Doncaster & Darlington in the mode of Brian Little

Sean O'Driscoll - currently enjoying success at Doncaster

John Ward - Experienced having been assistant to Graham Taylor, Josef Venglos, Dave Jones he got Cheltenham promoted and currently having some success at Carlisle.

Stuart Gray - Short spell in charge of Southampton been assistant to Glen Hoddle & Dave Jones currently doing a decent job at Northampton

Gary Waddock - long shot really, has worked with Holloway and at least managed to keep QPR up after Ollie was sacked, done a tremendous job at Aldershot.

I'd be happy giving Penney or Tilson a go.

[Webbo]

I've lost count of the number of times I've posted why I don't want Holloway to continue, all logical and well thought out reasons and who I'd prefer in his place, all realistic options but it seems there are just as many pro Holloway people who aren't prepared to listen or simply ignore coherent arguments and only proffer the stability angle as their reason for him to stay.

If all that makes me an idiot fine it's already included in my signature along with pathetic and turd brain as examples of the intellect brigade on here.

I don't think you're pathetic or a turd brain, you've got a right to your opinion it's just that I disagree with it. It's not like the pro-Holloway brigade are aren't getting any abuse either.

It's all getting a bit personal now and there's no need for it. Especially as the anti Holloway brigade still have a 50/50 chance of getting their wish.

[Guest]

Not that I particularly favour Taggart but I would have thought that a high proportion of teams in Leagues 1 & 2 employ managers with little or no experience.

I would like to think that we were in League 1 for the short term, and would prefer to have a manager in place who gets us up as quickly as possible, and give us the chance of challenging for promotion in the Championship. It's bad enough being in that division; as soon as we start seeing ourselves as a third division team, we're fecked!

[Dames]

Personally i don't think Ollie has a decent pair of knockers.

Obvious Troll is obvious

[Guest]

Personally i don't think Ollie has a decent pair of knockers.

Obvious Troll is obvious

The most shocking thing is it has taken to page 10 for this post to be made.

[Manwell Pablo]

If we're appointing new managers I'd now more than ever say Russel Slade even if Yeovil have had a shocking season.

But then it seems pointless even mentioning it, Holloways going to be here for at least another 3 or 4 months now probable longer.

[lookwhaticando]

The most shocking thing is it has taken to page 10 for this post to be made.

10 pages and 53 hours or so.

[Free Falling Foxes]

Even though I will disagree with friends/colleagues/family on a variety of things I can usually see where they are coming from/the point they are trying to make.

But where Holloway is concerned it's a no-brainer.

MM has decided he's staying for the same reasons his supporters on FT say he should stay: Who'll come here with MMs hire/fire mentality; We're in Div 3; The cost of getting rid etc; etc.

Holloway would wish to stay: His family settled - schools etc; He needs a stab at improving greatly the current last entry on his CV; Who would have him anyway? etc; etc.

None of those reasons tackle the area that matters most: On the pitch.

Holloway himself has perpetuated - and made worse - his own observations about us regarding 'deadwood' in the squad. He's added to it. Also: -

Tactics - poor.

Changes - too late.

Improvements - none.

Comments - Bizarre.

Consistancy - none

Remember, he even had a pop at the fans as soon as he arrived (Carl Cort)

Said on-air (RL) he never bought Hayles & Howard to play together!!

His record, interestingly, was slightly better against the stronger teams in the Championship. Next year though we'll be playing teams that are more similar to the lower teams in the championship and his record against them was shocking!

I could go on but the points have all been made often before but are no less valid because of that repetition.

He'll go. It's just a question of when, not if, and when he does, well, I'm not one for saying I told you so but I may make an exception in this case.

[Ultra]

A few staff at City will lose their jobs due to relegation.

How ironic it would be if the manager was NOT one of them?