Professional Footballer Arrested

[Benji]

This twat,needs to go down for life min 20 years,2 kids gone,family total loss,fook him

14 year max

[Ric Flair]

What's the bettings he serves less than 3 years, once convicted?

[Daggers]

Magistrates in Stoke-on-Trent released Mr McCormick on conditional bail to an address in Coventry, that he not drive or travel in the front passenger seat.

He and the mother of the children cried throughout the proceedings.

He is due to appear at Stoke Crown Court on 16 June.

[Kilworthfox]

Magistrates in Stoke-on-Trent released Mr McCormick on conditional bail to an address in Coventry, that he not drive or travel in the front passenger seat.

He and the mother of the children cried throughout the proceedings.

He is due to appear at Stoke Crown Court on 16 June.

Fair enough, I can't see how he would be a harm to the public for a week, however he should enjoy the freedom as it will be his last for a long while IMO!

[Guest]

The sooner this country introduces a zero-tolerance policy to drink-driving, the better. How many more lives are to be ruined and lost by the inconsiderate behaviour and attitude of a growing number of people who think that they are above the law?

Whilst I was prepared to give this tosser the benefit of the doubt, now it is clear that he has caused these deaths through his own selfish stupidity, I hope that they throw the book at him. I wonder if his tears were of genuine remorse, or the realisation that he has thrown away his future.

[Ric Flair]

The sooner this country introduces a zero-tolerance policy to drink-driving, the better. How many more lives are to be ruined and lost by the inconsiderate behaviour and attitude of a growing number of people who think that they are above the law?

Whilst I was prepared to give this tosser the benefit of the doubt, now it is clear that he has caused these deaths through his own selfish stupidity, I hope that they throw the book at him. I wonder if his tears were of genuine remorse, or the realisation that he has thrown away his future.

What's the harshest penalty other countries use? I certainly think there needs to be something done about it.

[Bert]

ITV news claim that he showed no emotion.

[Katy]

Fair enough, I can't see how he would be a harm to the public for a week, however he should enjoy the freedom as it will be his last for a long while IMO!

I don't think he'll be enjoying it somehow and quite rightly so. What a horrific mess.

I'm not bothered how unpopular it makes me but I wouldn't think twice about shopping a mate if I knew they were drink driving, fook them I personally couldn't live with myself it I let someone do that and it resulted in someone getting injured or killed. I've had to nick keys off people thinking of doing that before - idiots!

[Guest]

I don't think he'll be enjoying it somehow and quite rightly so. What a horrific mess.

I'm not bothered how unpopular it makes me but I wouldn't think twice about shopping a mate if I knew they were drink driving, fook them I personally couldn't live with myself it I let someone do that and it resulted in someone getting injured or killed. I've had to nick keys off people thinking of doing that before - idiots!

Totally agree with that. I remember a few years back, my cousin, rather than taking the keys off his drunk mate who was trying to get into his car, decided to get into the car with him I only found out about this a couple of days after it actually happened. Sufficed to say he was the lucky one of the two when the car crashed into a ditch. His mate died and he spent the rest of the next year with metal pins/rods in his legs and learning how to walk again.

Fortunately they didn't hit any other road users but I've honestly never been so pissed off with the tw@ for making such a ****ing stupid decision to get in that car.

[hairy]

I don't think he'll be enjoying it somehow and quite rightly so. What a horrific mess.

I'm not bothered how unpopular it makes me but I wouldn't think twice about shopping a mate if I knew they were drink driving, fook them I personally couldn't live with myself it I let someone do that and it resulted in someone getting injured or killed. I've had to nick keys off people thinking of doing that before - idiots!

But where do you draw the line. Speeding also kills. The difference 5mph can make is immense.

[Katy]

Totally agree with that. I remember a few years back, my cousin, rather than taking the keys off his drunk mate who was trying to get into his car, decided to get into the car with him I only found out about this a couple of days after it actually happened. Sufficed to say he was the lucky one of the two when the car crashed into a ditch. His mate died and he spent the rest of the next year with metal pins/rods in his legs and learning how to walk again.

Fortunately they didn't hit any other road users but I've honestly never been so pissed off with the tw@ for making such a ****ing stupid decision to get in that car.

Ah, that's awful but lucky that your cousin survived. It's really not worth it is it?

But where do you draw the line. Speeding also kills. The difference 5mph can make is immense.

If i'm in a pub with someone who's been drinking and then planning to drive home then I can try and do something about it. I can't predict if someone is going to speed unfortunately but you are quite right, speeding does kill.

[BD Paul]

Hi all,

I don't know why i feel compelled to come on here to defend myself, but i'm the Plymouth fan who posted the comment about "also feeling sorry for David Norris" on our forum that some of you seem to think is so shocking.

I make no apologies for the comment. I'd previously made several comments on how tragic it was for the family involved and first and foremost our thoughts and prayers were with them and will continue to be with them. I then went onto say in a separate post that i also feel some sympathy for Norris.

Not sure why that is so hideous. These accidents affect many more people other than just those directly involved. Those right at the heart of it in a massive way that they'll never get over, like the poor family, and some like David Norris (who McCormick had been at his wedding on the Friday) in a much lesser way. His wedding day won't have a happy memory will it?

I hope you can see my post in context, and if you really can't, i guess contrary to what i said above i will apologise, as on these days of all days now is not the time for petty football fan squables on internet forums.

There's a book of condolences on p@soti if any of you good people would like to sign it.

A meaningless gesture maybe, but what else can you do.

[Benji]

Hi all,

I don't know why i feel compelled to come on here to defend myself, but i'm the Plymouth fan who posted the comment about "also feeling sorry for David Norris" on our forum that some of you seem to think is so shocking.

I make no apologies for the comment. I'd previously made several comments on how tragic it was for the family involved and first and foremost our thoughts and prayers were with them and will continue to be with them. I then went onto say in a separate post that i also feel some sympathy for Norris.

Not sure why that is so hideous. These accidents affect many more people other than just those directly involved. Those right at the heart of it in a massive way that they'll never get over, like the poor family, and some like David Norris (who McCormick had been at his wedding on the Friday) in a much lesser way. His wedding day won't have a happy memory will it?

I hope you can see my post in context, and if you really can't, i guess contrary to what i said above i will apologise, as on these days of all days now is not the time for petty football fan squables on internet forums.

There's a book of condolences on p@soti if any of you good people would like to sign it.

A meaningless gesture maybe, but what else can you do.

You do make a valid point and theres no debating the fact that he will equally be feeling terrible, however it's all relative and uncomparable in the slightest with respect to the affected family

[Bryn]

I've heard, and I state strongly it's just hearsay, that McCormick was actually in the car in front of the people carrier in which the children died. If this is the case, then perhaps he won't be facing such a lengthy jail sentence.

The guy is a moron for driving both pissed and without insurance.... but if that's the case then I can't see how he can be found guilty of causing death by dangerous driving. Unless he's done something like deliberately slam on so as to cause an accident which is more like murder in my eyes.

[BD Paul]

You do make a valid point and theres no debating the fact that he will equally be feeling terrible, however it's all relative and uncomparable in the slightest with respect to the affected family

agree. a point i made in my post on this site, as well as my several posts on ours.

Some of you seemed to think i was being a moron for daring to spare a thought for someone else affacted in a small way by this tragic event, and i felt i wanted to have a right to reply.

[Daggers]

Some of you seemed to think i was being a moron for daring to spare a thought for someone else affacted in a small way by this tragic event, and i felt i wanted to have a right to reply.

As long as you are feeling better now for having had your right to reply then.

I do hope that you and Norris manage to pull through.

[Bert]

agree. a point i made in my post on this site, as well as my several posts on ours.

Some of you seemed to think i was being a moron for daring to spare a thought for someone else affacted in a small way by this tragic event, and i felt i wanted to have a right to reply.

I think the point about it all was, that David Norris hasn't lost 2 children and doesn't have a husband in hospital with a fractured neck and back.

Of course it will affect Norris, but first and foremost, thoughts should be with the parents, family and firneds of these two young boys.

This was what you posted:

of course the other person who we should spare a thought for here is David Norris.

Obviously not the same as the poor family who've lost their sons, and who's dad is seriously ill in hospital, but Chuck and his wife must be gutted that one his his mates was involved.

I do hope the story in the mail is wrong and drink was not involved.

Personally, i can't understand the "of course" part of your post.

Any of his mates would be gutted that he's been in an accident, but they should also realise what a silly man he has been.

If he had got a hotel, or at least waited until the alcohol was cleared out of his system, then he wouldn't be in as much of a mess as he will actually be in now.

[syston_fox]

I've heard, and I state strongly it's just hearsay, that McCormick was actually in the car in front of the people carrier in which the children died. If this is the case, then perhaps he won't be facing such a lengthy jail sentence.

The guy is a moron for driving both pissed and without insurance.... but if that's the case then I can't see how he can be found guilty of causing death by dangerous driving. Unless he's done something like deliberately slam on so as to cause an accident which is more like murder in my eyes.

If that was the case then the police wouldnt have charged him with death by dangerous driving...

[BD Paul]

Personally, i can't understand the "of course" part of your post.

Any of his mates would be gutted that he's been in an accident, but they should also realise what a silly man he has been.

If he had got a hotel, or at least waited until the alcohol was cleared out of his system, then he wouldn't be in as much of a mess as he will actually be in now.

The "of course" is just words Bert. In isolation they do seem insensitive i guess, but in context with previous posts written in quick succession i hope less so.

I'm sure anyone in connection with Luke realises what a "silly man he has been" as you say. I think "silly" might be a bit of an understatement don't you?

As for why he didn't get a hotel, only Luke can answer that but from what i've heard he did, but got up early to get back to Plymouth for another ex team mates wedding on the saturday. Hugely reckless when you consider what time he must have been on the road to get from Bolton to Stafford by 0545.

[Bert]

The "of course" is just words Bert. In isolation they do seem insensitive i guess, but in context with previous posts written in quick succession i hope less so.

I'm sure anyone in connection with Luke realises what a "silly man he has been" as you say. I think "silly" might be a bit of an understatement don't you?

As for why he didn't get a hotel, only Luke can answer that but from what i've heard he did, but got up early to get back to Plymouth for another ex team mates wedding on the saturday. Hugely reckless when you consider what time he must have been on the road to get from Bolton to Stafford by 0545.

You're right - It's a very sensitive subject though, so you have to tread carefully.

[Stevosevic]

I've heard, and I state strongly it's just hearsay, that McCormick was actually in the car in front of the people carrier in which the children died. If this is the case, then perhaps he won't be facing such a lengthy jail sentence.

The guy is a moron for driving both pissed and without insurance.... but if that's the case then I can't see how he can be found guilty of causing death by dangerous driving. Unless he's done something like deliberately slam on so as to cause an accident which is more like murder in my eyes.

His car was smashed up at the front, so i assume he went into the othet car?

[Bryn]

If that was the case then the police wouldnt have charged him with death by dangerous driving...

Why not? They have to charge him with something, it seems to be fairly normal procedure. The friend I know who was involved in a fatal accident was informed that the Crown Prosecution Service had to charge them with something because it was a matter of public importance, or something like that.

[Guest]

Why not? They have to charge him with something, it seems to be fairly normal procedure. The friend I know who was involved in a fatal accident was informed that the Crown Prosecution Service had to charge them with something because it was a matter of public importance, or something like that.

The CPS will advise to charge if there is a realistic chance that a case will succeed in the courts, public policy has bugger all to do with it.

[Bryn]

Meh.

My point is irrelevant now anyway, the person who told me that has now told me that the pics of the cars have been released and the range rover McCormick was driving has damage to the front.

[Ric Flair]

The "of course" is just words Bert. In isolation they do seem insensitive i guess, but in context with previous posts written in quick succession i hope less so.

I'm sure anyone in connection with Luke realises what a "silly man he has been" as you say. I think "silly" might be a bit of an understatement don't you?

As for why he didn't get a hotel, only Luke can answer that but from what i've heard he did, but got up early to get back to Plymouth for another ex team mates wedding on the saturday. Hugely reckless when you consider what time he must have been on the road to get from Bolton to Stafford by 0545.

I've also heard that he had stopped in a hotel, but as you say. He was up extremely early to drive back to Plymouth, or wherever he resides. What this also raises is, I wonder how much he'd had to drink and the time it does actually take for that alcohol to completely leave your body and for you to be under the limit. This is something thousands and thousands of people are risking doing each and every day and they probably don't feel in the slightest bit drunk come the next day.

Something needs to be done about that. I know it's a very flawed concept but having to take a breathelizer test each time to start your car may solve part of this.