Professional Footballer Arrested

[Guest]

I don't feel one ounce of sympathy for the arrogant murdering cunt.

He was tired, pissed, driving like a twat and asked by a passenger to stop - he didn't. He had so many opportunities to stop the trail of events which led up to the moment when he robbed a family of their sons.

He is a selfish ****er - he didn't make a mistake like "Oh shit, I forgot to post that letter", "Oh shit, I had a fight with my mate" or "Oh shit, I shagged my girlfriends best mate!"

He murdered children.

May he receive every inch of anal discomfort coming to him.

Well said, that man.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

I don't feel one ounce of sympathy for the arrogant murdering cunt.

He was tired, pissed, driving like a twat and asked by a passenger to stop - he didn't. He had so many opportunities to stop the trail of events which led up to the moment when he robbed a family of their sons.

He is a selfish ****er - he didn't make a mistake like "Oh shit, I forgot to post that letter", "Oh shit, I had a fight with my mate" or "Oh shit, I shagged my girlfriends best mate!"

He murdered children.

May he receive every inch of anal discomfort coming to him.

And it's good to see that people in the public eye aren't invincible. I know footballers/"celebrities" have been arrested in the past, but alot of the time they seem to get off fairly lightly.

They should have the same sentences and laws imposed upon them as the rest of us.

[Zingari]

Its strange that whenever corporal or capital punishment is mentioned , however horrendous or evil a crime may be , most posters are totally against it and worry about miscarriages of justice , barbarism etc

But they seem quite at ease with summary justice being meted out by fellow inmates .

It's a queer old world and no mistake

[act smiley]

He was tired, pissed, driving like a twat and asked by a passenger to stop - he didn't.

I thought that he was on his own in the car and got a call from the guy who tried to get him to stop? Bit of a different situation, though you're right in saying that its a deserved sentence.

He's been unfortunate in that of all the people who've driven before all the booze is out of their system, its been him rather than someone else that has cocked up so royally, but if you do something that stupid and cause such a tragedy you deserve the prison sentence.

[Thracian]

By the nature of these things it sounds like the court has handed out the sort of serious sentence the offender could and should have expected, as far as it was possible

I suppose being sent to prison will ensure he has time to reflect on what he's done although it won't ever mend the families concerned and I am not sure that the guy being in prison will achieve anything other than to offer what can only be token punishment for something that will never be righted in a lifetime.

For me it should have been possible to sentence the offender to serve the community or the nation for a minimum of so many years and thereafter, at the will of the victims' family (if they wish it), for a further period given what he has taken away from others.

The type of community service to be undertaken would be chosen from various options acceptable to the court but finally selected from those options by the victims' families (again, if they wish).

In other words the principle should be established whereby the sentence should in theory last as long as the pain and consequences caused by an offence but in a practical but constructive way.

Not that I imagine anyone will agree with me but it is perhaps food for thought and debate!

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[Asha]

In other words the principle should be established whereby the sentence should in theory last as long as the pain and consequences caused by an offence and the guilty party should feel the effect of those consequences in a practical but constructive way and over the sort of timescale that those consequences might reasonably be felt by the victims.

In which case, McCormick would get life.

[Daggers]

For me it should have been possible to sentence the offender to serve the community or the nation for a minimum of so many years and thereafter, at the will of the victims' family (if they wish it), for a further period given what he has taken away from others.

? ?

Colour me stupid but I'm missing most of the point of your post.

[Hullfox]

By the nature of these things it sounds like the court has handed out the sort of serious sentence the offender could and should have expected, as far as it was possible

I suppose being sent to prison will ensure he has time to reflect on what he's done although it won't ever mend the families concerned and I am not sure that the guy being in prison will achieve anything other than to offer what can only be token punishment for something that will never be righted in a lifetime.

For me it should have been possible to sentence the offender to serve the community or the nation for a minimum of so many years and thereafter, at the will of the victims' family (if they wish it), for a further period given what he has taken away from others.

The type of community service to be undertaken would be chosen from various options acceptable to the court but finally selected from those options by the victims' families (again, if they wish).

In other words the principle should be established whereby the sentence should in theory last as long as the pain and consequences caused by an offence but in a practical but constructive way.

Not that I imagine anyone will agree with me but it is perhaps food for thought and debate!

I'm favouring the anal rape sentence he's got

[shen]

I don't feel one ounce of sympathy for the arrogant murdering cunt.

He was tired, pissed, driving like a twat and asked by a passenger to stop - he didn't. He had so many opportunities to stop the trail of events which led up to the moment when he robbed a family of their sons.

He is a selfish ****er - he didn't make a mistake like "Oh shit, I forgot to post that letter", "Oh shit, I had a fight with my mate" or "Oh shit, I shagged my girlfriends best mate!"

He murdered children.

May he receive every inch of anal discomfort coming to him.

I feel the same.

Yet I cannot understand how a sentence will help the situation or make McCormack a 'rehabilitated' person. I'm sure he'll never be able to lead a normal life after this, and like the victims, he'll be scarred for life. The amount of lives taken away or destroyed by this horrible incident is just unfathomable

[MC Prussian]

If he was driving dangerously or over the speed limit then it is his fault and should be punished for it regardless of whether he's a footballer or not.

Since when is being a footballer a reason to be excempt from legal punishment?

The new video doesn't really show the speed with which McCormick drove on the motorway as it is in slow-motion. Also, there seemed to be loads of other vehicles driving at about the same speed and that even on the leftmost lane on that stretch, according to the surveillance cameras.

I hope the prison sentence will do him some good and that he'll come out as a new, responsible man. As much as I can feel with the family and the loss of two dearly loved children, making McCormick a monster ain't going to bring them back, either. He's done a horrible thing and for that he is going to pay for sure.

And as a goalkeeper, no matter whether it's three and a half years (him being 28/29) or seven (at age 32), he'd still be able to play football later on.

At least some time for him to think about what he's done - and write a book about it.

[Thracian]

I don't feel one ounce of sympathy for the arrogant murdering cunt.

He was tired, pissed, driving like a twat and asked by a passenger to stop - he didn't. He had so many opportunities to stop the trail of events which led up to the moment when he robbed a family of their sons.

He is a selfish ****er - he didn't make a mistake like "Oh shit, I forgot to post that letter", "Oh shit, I had a fight with my mate" or "Oh shit, I shagged my girlfriends best mate!"

He murdered children.

May he receive every inch of anal discomfort coming to him.

You know he didn't 'murder' anyone. He killed them through the selfishly reckless actions you've described, but he didn't commit murder nor would anyone seriously imagine he intended to kill or even hurt anyone at all.

He has to live with the awful consequences of his action like everyone else involved and, as you rightly say, he deserves not one moment of sympathy.

But is a shortish prison sentence, given remission, really the right punishment? This bloke has made an horrendous mistake. He has not committed a premeditated crime although he has unquestionably ignored the potential consequences of his actions that night.

To me he should pay for that crime by being made to give something back, something long term and unpaid, that might at least in some way make small reparation for what he's done.

Tragedies have often led to something beneficial being set-up as a result and surely that would be far more constructive than sending a stupid, rather than calculatingly criminal young man off for a dose of prison gang-banging.

Such a prison experience would more likely turn any normal person into a potentially violent and vengeful lunatic rather than in any way fostering remorse or consideration for others.

Don't get me wrong. My emotive self would be vengeance personified if my kids were harmed but the real gut-wrencher is that any revenge - on the guy, on his family, on the kids of his family - would do nothing to bring your own kids back. It would only wreck other people's lives.

The only healing would come from seeing someone somehow benefit - rather like the a life-giving transplant of organs from a dead son or daughter.

[shen]

You know he didn't 'murder' anyone. He killed them through the selfishly reckless actions you've described, but he didn't commit murder nor would anyone seriously imagine he intended to kill or even hurt anyone at all.

He has to live with the awful consequences of his action like everyone else involved and, as you rightly say, he deserves not one moment of sympathy.

But is a shortish prison sentence, given remission, really the right punishment? This bloke has made an horrendous mistake. He has not committed a premeditated crime although he has unquestionably ignored the potential consequences of his actions that night.

To me he should pay for that crime by being made to give something back, something long term and unpaid, that might at least in some way make small reparation for what he's done.

Tragedies have often led to something beneficial being set-up as a result and surely that would be far more constructive than sending a stupid, rather than calculatingly criminal young man off for a dose of prison gang-banging.

Such a prison experience would more likely turn any normal person into a potentially violent and vengeful lunatic rather than in any way fostering remorse or consideration for others.

Don't get me wrong. My emotive self would be vengeance personified if my kids were harmed but the real gut-wrencher is that any revenge - on the guy, on his family, on the kids of his family - would do nothing to bring your own kids back. It would only wreck other people's lives.

The only healing would come from seeing someone somehow benefit - rather like the a life-giving transplant of organs from a dead son or daughter.

Made MUCH more sense than your previous posts in this thread and I agree with every word

[Jon the Hat]

Don't get me wrong. My emotive self would be vengeance personified if my kids were harmed but the real gut-wrencher is that any revenge - on the guy, on his family, on the kids of his family - would do nothing to bring your own kids back. It would only wreck other people's lives.

Which is exactly why we have a legal system to lay down punishment. This being a high profile case you could argue that if this makes even a few people think twice about the potential implications of driving after a few hours sleep and a lot of drinks then you cannot totally rule out the case for a custodial sentence can you. People thinking twice could save lives.

[sdb]

I don't feel one ounce of sympathy for the arrogant murdering cunt.

He was tired, pissed, driving like a twat and asked by a passenger to stop - he didn't. He had so many opportunities to stop the trail of events which led up to the moment when he robbed a family of their sons.

He is a selfish ****er - he didn't make a mistake like "Oh shit, I forgot to post that letter", "Oh shit, I had a fight with my mate" or "Oh shit, I shagged my girlfriends best mate!"

He murdered children.

May he receive every inch of anal discomfort coming to him.

sometimes i get the feeling people revel in others misery. yes he acted like a twat, yes he could, probably should have been jailed for longer, but why take the piss when so many people are going through hell? the sentence will ensure he never even contemplates doing something so stupid again - that's all that can be done. taking the piss wont bring the 2 kids back, and wishing anything worse on him is hypocritical. i'm sure he regrets it without hearing the embarrassing 'bum rape' jokes that go with being put in prison.

[fox123]

sometimes i get the feeling people revel in others misery. yes he acted like a twat, yes he could, probably should have been jailed for longer, but why take the piss when so many people are going through hell? the sentence will ensure he never even contemplates doing something so stupid again - that's all that can be done. taking the piss wont bring the 2 kids back, and wishing anything worse on him is hypocritical. i'm sure he regrets it without hearing the embarrassing 'bum rape' jokes that go with being put in prison.

Touch a

pile

nerve?

[Daggers]

You know he didn't 'murder' anyone.

You can debate semantics if you want - to me the killing was 'unlawful' and his actions were of a murderous nature. For me it's the equivalent of someone walking into a packed shopping centre swinging a machete.

You can call it what you want - I call it murder.

To me he should pay for that crime by being made to give something back, something long term and unpaid, that might at least in some way make small reparation for what he's done.

Yes - we already have a system of community service as an alternative to custodial sentences...but, amazingly, most of society prefer to see someone like this locked away as punishment for his atrocity.

Such a prison experience would more likely turn any normal person into a potentially violent and vengeful lunatic rather than in any way fostering remorse or consideration for others.

Absolute bollocks.

Show me the evidence to support this conjecture - because there isn't any.

The only healing would come from seeing someone somehow benefit - rather like the a life-giving transplant of organs from a dead son or daughter.

Again, you have absolutely no evidence to substantiate this. Allowing softer sentences for criminals does not aid a healing process for the victims of crime - there is no documented research to support this conjecture.

[Daggers]

sometimes i get the feeling people revel in others misery. yes he acted like a twat, yes he could, probably should have been jailed for longer, but why take the piss when so many people are going through hell? the sentence will ensure he never even contemplates doing something so stupid again - that's all that can be done. taking the piss wont bring the 2 kids back, and wishing anything worse on him is hypocritical. i'm sure he regrets it without hearing the embarrassing 'bum rape' jokes that go with being put in prison.

You are an idiot.

[Thracian]

Which is exactly why we have a legal system to lay down punishment. This being a high profile case you could argue that if this makes even a few people think twice about the potential implications of driving after a few hours sleep and a lot of drinks then you cannot totally rule out the case for a custodial sentence can you. People thinking twice could save lives.

Drivers of even limited experience should know how dangerous it is to drive while tired without needing a high-profile court case to remind them.

You've only got to watch the lorries swerving all over the motorway in the early hours of the morning to see the dangers.

However if you think subjecting a guy who's made an horrendous series of mistakes to the moronic existence of prison life (as so graphically described by Daggers and others) is likely to be more beneficial to society than what I've suggested, perhaps you'll explain why.

I'm open to persuasion but it seems to me that our energies should be spent improving people's consideration for others rather than having other low-life's of society making them worse.

[Dr The Singh]

You are an idiot.

Your in a good mood again I see!!!

They should make a example of him, in the belief that it may deter others from doing the same!!!!!

[Daggers]

Your in a good mood again I see!!!

I'm in a brilliant mood Singhy - found out my leg isn't broken...and after some gentle prodding by the doctor I can walk. Caused me a bit of gip while he was doing it but BANG! the pins and needles stopped in my foot immediately and I could stand and hobble. Brilliant!

[Dr The Singh]

I'm in a brilliant mood Singhy - found out my leg isn't broken...and after some gentle prodding by the doctor I can walk. Caused me a bit of gip while he was doing it but BANG! the pins and needles stopped in my foot immediately and I could stand and hobble. Brilliant!

That's good to hear Daggers, you comming to the match this weekend????????

[Bert]

Your in a good mood again I see!!!

They should make a example of him, in the belief that it may deter others from doing the same!!!!!

He's just pissed off he missed the beer festival.

[Nugent]

Give him life.

He'll be back out playing football in maybe 3 1/2 years time.

Those 2 boys won't get their lives back.

[Hullfox]

Drivers of even limited experience should know how dangerous it is to drive while tired without needing a high-profile court case to remind them.

I think that the standard of driving was due in the main not to tiredness but the fact that he was driving with a massive amount of alcohol in his system. I think a high profile court case serves as a timely reminder.

[Guest]

You know he didn't 'murder' anyone. He killed them through the selfishly reckless actions you've described, but he didn't commit murder nor would anyone seriously imagine he intended to kill or even hurt anyone at all.

Sorry to be pedantic, but recklessness can result in a murder conviction. I won't go into the nitty gritty, but the test is partly objective, and partly subjective (R v G and others). The definition of murder (from Coke) is "the unlawful killing of a person in being, under the King's/Queen's peace, with malice aforethought"; in the absence of a statute this is still the case. So in my mind, he is a murderer.