demon_dog Posted 18 July 2008 Posted 18 July 2008 Vanishing spray aims to keep defenders in place. By Brian Homewood Reuters - Friday, July 18 02:06 amBUENOS AIRES (Reuters) Argentine football is to use a quickly-vanishing spray in an attempt to stop defensive walls from creeping forward at free kicks. Referees will pace the regulatory 9.15 metres between the ball and the nearest defender and then spray a white line on the pitch to mark the correct position of the wall. The line then disappears from the pitch within a minute. "This could help put an end to the practice of walls moving forward in football," said Pablo Silva, who has led the project to develop the product. In a rare instance of new technology in the sport, the Argentina Football Association (AFA) agreed at an executive meeting on Wednesday night to use the equipment during next season's second division campaign. Silva, a sports journalist who has worked with chemical engineers to develop the spray, said the idea came to him when he was foiled at a free kick during an amateur game. "It started seven or eight years ago when I was playing in an championship played amongst former school members," he told Reuters. "In the 88th minute, we were losing 1-0 and won a free kick on the edge of the area. When I took the kick, the wall was three metres away. The referee didn't book anyone and didn't do anything. BITTER MEMORIES "We lost the game and driving home later, with a mixture of anger and bitterness, I thought that we must invent something to stop this." He added: "We have observed more than 1,500 matches all over the world and we have studied how long it takes to take the free kick and how far the defensive wall moves forward. "We have proved this is not just an Argentine problem, it happens everywhere." "Hopefully, this can contribute to enforcing the current rules and improve the time that the ball is in play," he said. Silva recalled a recent Boca Juniors game in which Juan Roman Riquelme needed 2-1/2 minutes to take a free kick because of arguing over the position of the wall. He said the spray was different to a product that has been used in some competitions in Brazil in the last few years. "We started work in 2000 and we didn't make it public," he said. "The Brazilian one appeared in 2002 and the substances are completely different. One has nothing to do with the other." Think this was used last year against us! It simply made the goals disappear.
acooling08 Posted 18 July 2008 Posted 18 July 2008 yeah would be a good idea but i don't think its likely to be used in england though
MikeyT Posted 18 July 2008 Posted 18 July 2008 Good idea. How many times do we watch a game and see the line move forward and the Ref/ ref's assistant do nothing about it. Could work, but doubt it will be implemented in England.
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 18 July 2008 Posted 18 July 2008 Vanishing spray aims to keep defenders in place. The title on it's own seems to contradict itself until you read the story! I thought it was a plan to stop defenders 'disapearing' from the forwards they're supposed to be marking!
Houdini Logic Posted 18 July 2008 Posted 18 July 2008 As if the ref will be able to get the geometry right - it's not like he's able to just draw a straight line is it?
Ashley Posted 18 July 2008 Posted 18 July 2008 Good idea, I could see it working however I doubt it will be used in England.
Corky Posted 18 July 2008 Posted 18 July 2008 Tell you what would be nice as well, if the referees actually watched where the free-kick is being taken. Many away teams have done this, the ref turns round and they move the ball forward five or so yards from where the foul occurred.
Raj Posted 19 July 2008 Posted 19 July 2008 I thought it was spray to use on crap players,to make them vanish!! LCFC would need tonnes of the stuff!!!
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 19 July 2008 Posted 19 July 2008 I thought it was spray to use on crap players,to make them vanish!!LCFC would need tonnes of the stuff!!! Unfoutunetly i thought the same............sad really
DB11 Posted 19 July 2008 Posted 19 July 2008 Tell you what would be nice as well, if the referees actually watched where the free-kick is being taken. Many away teams have done this, the ref turns round and they move the ball forward five or so yards from where the foul occurred. Like a player is able to move the ball forward FIVE YARDS in any half decent attacking position - and what does it matter if it's done anywhere in the defensive third? Even if a player did move the ball forward five yards in an attacking place; 1. What use is it - the wall will only then be five yards away 2. The Referee would kinda notice, as would the assistant who'd notify the Referee.
Simi Posted 19 July 2008 Posted 19 July 2008 Shite idea. Just get on with the ****ing game or properly enforce rules about creeping. This is just another pathetic addition to the game.
Daggers Posted 19 July 2008 Posted 19 July 2008 I thought it was spray to use on crap players,to make them vanish!!LCFC would need tonnes of the stuff!!! If it only works for a short period of time we should be expecting Elvis back any second.
Fox You Forest Posted 19 July 2008 Posted 19 July 2008 If it only works for a short period of time we should be expecting Elvis back any second. Thats if he hasn't already had a crack at solvent abuse with it.
Daggers Posted 19 July 2008 Posted 19 July 2008 Thats if he hasn't already had a crack at solvent abuse with it. I heard he allegedly likes swearing at fixing products too.
Cat Burger Posted 19 July 2008 Posted 19 July 2008 That's the spray to do it! Although I think it's easy enough to tell if a wall is moving forward, responsibility lies with the refs. Bringing an aerosol onto the pitch everytime there is a free kick will break the game up too much.
demon_dog Posted 19 July 2008 Author Posted 19 July 2008 Latest News! Milan has bought a can, ideal for disposing of his managers.
Father Ted Posted 19 July 2008 Posted 19 July 2008 Vanishing spray aims to keep defenders in place.By Brian Homewood Reuters - Friday, July 18 02:06 amBUENOS AIRES (Reuters) Argentine football is to use a quickly-vanishing spray in an attempt to stop defensive walls from creeping forward at free kicks. Referees will pace the regulatory 9.15 metres between the ball and the nearest defender and then spray a white line on the pitch to mark the correct position of the wall. The line then disappears from the pitch within a minute. "This could help put an end to the practice of walls moving forward in football," said Pablo Silva, who has led the project to develop the product. In a rare instance of new technology in the sport, the Argentina Football Association (AFA) agreed at an executive meeting on Wednesday night to use the equipment during next season's second division campaign. Silva, a sports journalist who has worked with chemical engineers to develop the spray, said the idea came to him when he was foiled at a free kick during an amateur game. "It started seven or eight years ago when I was playing in an championship played amongst former school members," he told Reuters. "In the 88th minute, we were losing 1-0 and won a free kick on the edge of the area. When I took the kick, the wall was three metres away. The referee didn't book anyone and didn't do anything. BITTER MEMORIES "We lost the game and driving home later, with a mixture of anger and bitterness, I thought that we must invent something to stop this." He added: "We have observed more than 1,500 matches all over the world and we have studied how long it takes to take the free kick and how far the defensive wall moves forward. "We have proved this is not just an Argentine problem, it happens everywhere." "Hopefully, this can contribute to enforcing the current rules and improve the time that the ball is in play," he said. Silva recalled a recent Boca Juniors game in which Juan Roman Riquelme needed 2-1/2 minutes to take a free kick because of arguing over the position of the wall. He said the spray was different to a product that has been used in some competitions in Brazil in the last few years. "We started work in 2000 and we didn't make it public," he said. "The Brazilian one appeared in 2002 and the substances are completely different. One has nothing to do with the other." Think this was used last year against us! It simply made the goals disappear. Not a bad idea...
NewquayFox Posted 19 July 2008 Posted 19 July 2008 I purchased a can of `Long Life Vanishing Spray`for the game I Reffed at Newquay AFC today,unfortunately i sprayed some on the can and cant find the bugger now. ;0)
NewquayFox Posted 20 July 2008 Posted 20 July 2008 No,honest Alexiplopalotinpo,I still cant find it!!! ;0)
Sparky Posted 20 July 2008 Posted 20 July 2008 Shite idea.Just get on with the ****ing game or properly enforce rules about creeping. This is just another pathetic addition to the game. pretty much word for word what i would have posted
Guest Posted 20 July 2008 Posted 20 July 2008 Latest News!Milan has bought a can, ideal for disposing of his managers. I'd imagine if it worked like that, I'd have used a couple of cans worth up just on the annoying feckers sitting round me in the east stand last season
The People's Hero Posted 21 July 2008 Posted 21 July 2008 The wall edging forwards is part of the game, just like Mike Whitlow(?)'s legendary ability to steal about 30 yards everytime we got a throw in. Or was it Grayson? I forget.
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