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Absolute *** of our time Pt.MXXVI

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Trav Le Bleu

Trav Le Bleu

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1 hour ago, Jon the Hat said:

I would note as a company director in Australia I already have such an ID, which is linked to companies, tax authorities, numerous govt institutions, along with a personal gov digital id which links my tax number, Medicare, health insurance etc. and I have no current concerns. 

Current is the key word in all that.

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FoxesDeb

FoxesDeb

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50 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Current is the key word in all that.

You can apply that to anything though. I'm sitting here looking at the sea and currently have absolutely no concerns about a tsunami wave. That's because I have no reason to have any concern, because no circumstances have occurred to create the need for worry.

 

I don't spend my whole life thinking it might happen one day because it's incredibly unlikely to ever happen. 

 

Do we have any concrete evidence that the proposed digital ID will ever be used for more than is being talked about at present, or is it just more TikTok conspiracy chat? I honestly don't know, and nobody answered this exact question when I asked it previously...

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Parafox

Parafox

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2 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

You can apply that to anything though. I'm sitting here looking at the sea and currently have absolutely no concerns about a tsunami wave. That's because I have no reason to have any concern, because no circumstances have occurred to create the need for worry.

 

I don't spend my whole life thinking it might happen one day because it's incredibly unlikely to ever happen. 

 

Do we have any concrete evidence that the proposed digital ID will ever be used for more than is being talked about at present, or is it just more TikTok conspiracy chat? I honestly don't know, and nobody answered this exact question when I asked it previously...

 

Because most of the chatter about it is hypothetical fear-mongering.

 

Until the proposals are made concrete and digital ID gets introduced, if ever, we'll never know what information will be held. We have a right to privacy but the unproven fear is that the Gov will use it to farm our personal information and activities without us actually knowing.

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Parafox

Parafox

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8 minutes ago, Parafox said:

 

Because most of the chatter about it is hypothetical fear-mongering.

 

Until the proposals are made concrete and digital ID gets introduced, if ever, we'll never know what information will be held. We have a right to privacy but the unproven fear is that the Gov will use it to farm our personal information and activities without us actually knowing.

This is also driven by a distrust of the current, and previous governments.

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Trav Le Bleu

Trav Le Bleu

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2 hours ago, FoxesDeb said:

You can apply that to anything though. I'm sitting here looking at the sea and currently have absolutely no concerns about a tsunami wave. That's because I have no reason to have any concern, because no circumstances have occurred to create the need for worry.

 

I don't spend my whole life thinking it might happen one day because it's incredibly unlikely to ever happen. 

 

Do we have any concrete evidence that the proposed digital ID will ever be used for more than is being talked about at present, or is it just more TikTok conspiracy chat? I honestly don't know, and nobody answered this exact question when I asked it previously...

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that the government can change rapidly and radically. I don't think our current administration would misuse it (they might cock it up), but with the rise of more radical government, history has shown how a government can use systems like this to quell any opposition.

 

Interesting that Switzerland is putting it to a referendum.

 

Switzerland votes on electronic identity cards for second time - BBC News

 

https://share.google/SCMDY4HqZKIb0T1vw

 

Though we all know how well referendums work in this country.

CornwallFox

CornwallFox

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On 28/09/2025 at 21:23, Trav Le Bleu said:

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that the government can change rapidly and radically. I don't think our current administration would misuse it (they might cock it up), but with the rise of more radical government, history has shown how a government can use systems like this to quell any opposition.

 

Interesting that Switzerland is putting it to a referendum.

 

Switzerland votes on electronic identity cards for second time - BBC News

 

https://share.google/SCMDY4HqZKIb0T1vw

 

Though we all know how well referendums work in this country.

'government' can already get every detail of information about you if they really wanted to. What information exists that you don't think it's already accessible?

 

And I can't help but reflect that this 'fear' is being stoked. Mass opposition to ID cards by the same media and political parties that have spent months shouting about asylum seekers illegally working. They don't want to fix the migration issue, they want to use it to divide and conquer. THAT is the fear you should have imo.

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Trav Le Bleu

Trav Le Bleu

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3 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

'government' can already get every detail of information about you if they really wanted to. What information exists that you don't think it's already accessible?

 

And I can't help but reflect that this 'fear' is being stoked. Mass opposition to ID cards by the same media and political parties that have spent months shouting about asylum seekers illegally working. They don't want to fix the migration issue, they want to use it to divide and conquer. THAT is the fear you should have imo.

Of course they do, but it's not all in one place and you're not required to carry it around with you.

 

Seriously, putting all of any resource in one place is a really, really, bad idea!

 

This isn't what is being proposed, but it's a step in that direction.

urban.spaceman

urban.spaceman

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4 hours ago, grobyfox1990 said:

LOL of all the things Orangeman says and does, you pick this 

Should stipulate it's in addition to everything else. Though this one affects me culturally, spiritually and professionally. 

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CornwallFox

CornwallFox

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2 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Of course they do, but it's not all in one place and you're not required to carry it around with you.

 

Seriously, putting all of any resource in one place is a really, really, bad idea!

 

This isn't what is being proposed, but it's a step in that direction.

It's not though is it? A digital ID is not remotely related to combined government data. 

Trav Le Bleu

Trav Le Bleu

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42 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

It's not though is it? A digital ID is not remotely related to combined government data. 

Erm, I said that.

 

Edit: Can we extend the Bude Canal down to the Tamar and turn Cornwall into an island?

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urban.spaceman

urban.spaceman

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21 minutes ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

I strongly suspect that none of that mone y will be paid back.

Next option then is seizing their assets to the appropriate value and/or throwing them in prison. 

Tommy G

Tommy G

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21 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

Next option then is seizing their assets to the appropriate value and/or throwing them in prison. 

I think you’ll find that litigation will be more complex hence it’s been put into administration. I’d like to see the payback on litigation vs actual returns, and I doubt we ever will. 

grobyfox1990

grobyfox1990

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1 hour ago, urban.spaceman said:

Mone, and the people who enabled her. 

Glad Labour are cracking down these frauds; there's so many more billions to recover. 

They’ll recover nowt but it’ll be a sweet gig for the liquidator plus really good for their CV and creds

HighPeakFox

HighPeakFox

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"You know, when I walk downstairs for, like, a month, stairs, like these stairs, I’m very—I walk very slowly. Nobody has to set a record. Just try not to fall, because it doesn’t work out well. A few of our presidents have fallen and it became a part of their legacy. We don’t want that. You walk nice and easy. You’re not having—you don’t have to set any record. Be cool. Be cool when you walk down, but don’t—don’t pop down the stairs. So one thing with Obama, I had zero respect for him as a President, but he would bop down those stairs. I’ve never seen it. Da-da, da-da, da-da, bop, bop, bop. He’d go down the stairs. Wouldn’t hold on. I said, It’s great. I don’t want to do it. I guess I could do it. But eventually, bad things are going to happen, and it only takes once. But he did a lousy job as president."

 

No prizes for guessing who.

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Torquay Gunner

Torquay Gunner

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1 hour ago, HighPeakFox said:

"You know, when I walk downstairs for, like, a month, stairs, like these stairs, I’m very—I walk very slowly. Nobody has to set a record. Just try not to fall, because it doesn’t work out well. A few of our presidents have fallen and it became a part of their legacy. We don’t want that. You walk nice and easy. You’re not having—you don’t have to set any record. Be cool. Be cool when you walk down, but don’t—don’t pop down the stairs. So one thing with Obama, I had zero respect for him as a President, but he would bop down those stairs. I’ve never seen it. Da-da, da-da, da-da, bop, bop, bop. He’d go down the stairs. Wouldn’t hold on. I said, It’s great. I don’t want to do it. I guess I could do it. But eventually, bad things are going to happen, and it only takes once. But he did a lousy job as president."

 

No prizes for guessing who.

Nobody does word salads like him, like no one on earth. 

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