Goal Music & The PHG

[maddog]

The Mk Dons stadium is pretty atmosphereless due to the fact they have no fans.

BUT there is 3 times more leg room there than at the Walkers, the Leather seats are a lot more comfy, and you can watch the match from the concourses while queuing up for a pie, with an excellent view of the game.

So stadium wise it is nice, but theres no soul or atmosphere, while or stadium has uncomfy seats, no leg room, and no atmosphere

[Fatbloke]

The Mk Dons stadium is pretty atmosphereless due to the fact they have no fans.

BUT there is 3 times more leg room there than at the Walkers, the Leather seats are a lot more comfy, and you can watch the match from the concourses while queuing up for a pie, with an excellent view of the game.

So stadium wise it is nice, but theres no soul or atmosphere, while or stadium has uncomfy seats, no leg room, and no atmosphere

Nice though it is to discuss the merits of various stadiums up and down the country and suggest, with hindsight how ours is`nt as good, it`s got bugger all to do with the topic which is far far more important !

[Corky]

Yeah Hull I know mate, I`m not saying I have the answer just chucking in a suggestion or two, it`s gonna be bluddy difficult, if not impossible to stop the trained monkey`s from dancing to the clubs tune, if only they knew what complete and utter twats they look A ??

What we need is a couple of trial matches (in case we don't score in the first), where we don't have goal music and see what the fans say.

They never asked for it, so hopefully they won't miss it. They can act like monkeys if we score, just not accompanied by some god-awful tune that has no place in ANY football stadium.

[davieG]

Nice though it is to discuss the merits of various stadiums up and down the country and suggest, with hindsight how ours is`nt as good, it`s got bugger all to do with the topic which is far far more important !

Although I commented on the stadium merits this is true, we are stuck with the stadium but the goal music is transient and entirely removable given the will of the fans and the copyright charges.

[Fatbloke]

Good idea Corky, Have asked for that a few times, will send a text or two to some people that can make things happen and try again.

[C-man]

But seriously, apart from that there are some very good points well made in that post.

How did I know as soon as I saw you had quoted him that you would have highlighted that bit?

[blueblood]

Glad people agree with me.

My point about Stadium MK is, although its' almost in the middle of nowhere, that to me is irrelevant- the exterior of the building is decent, and inside the seats were fantastic. Also the fact that you can queue up and still watch the game from the concourses is an ingenious idea, very american, but one idea I think should be implemented into all new-build stadia.

The reason people may think it has no soul is because MK fans are so quiet, due them being a new team and the fans still trying to strike up a rapport and identity with their new club. IF stadium MK was full of city fans, the roof would have come down- and WHEN they fill in the concrete with seats, it will be a great stadium.

The walkers is just a souless shell, with minimum thought and effort gone into it, and has probably only created the sort of atmosphere we use to get down at Filbert Street on abput 3 or 4 occasions- and it holds 13,000 more people! There's just nothing special about our stadium at all, its' just so plain and simple, not even anything that was vintage from Filbert Street was kept. If i'd have been able to have some input, I would have suggested building a blue gate, which fully opens on match days, like the one they have at Anfield- it gives it a real stadium feel. I could have come up with plenty of good, and cheap ideas to enhance our stadium.

Thats' my opinion though, each to their own...

[Guest]

What we need is a couple of trial matches (in case we don't score in the first), where we don't have goal music and see what the fans say.

They never asked for it, so hopefully they won't miss it. They can act like monkeys if we score, just not accompanied by some god-awful tune that has no place in ANY football stadium.

Good idea Corky, Have asked for that a few times, will send a text or two to some people that can make things happen and try again.

It's been suggested at the FCC, but seeing as the majority don't mind or even like the whole Chelsea Dagger thing, it's a bit like

[Corky]

It's been suggested at the FCC, but seeing as the majority don't mind or even like the whole Chelsea Dagger thing, it's a bit like

I do sympathise Lise, I know how hard you try, especially in what appears a lost cause.

[Guest]

I do sympathise Lise, I know how hard you try, especially in what appears a lost cause.

It's not just me, there are others. Just not enough.

[Oadlad]

From the files of done to death....

There has been thread after thread on the subject of the Music at Leicester City. As we all know traditionally Leicester City come out to “The Post Horn Gallop” and after we scored, there was just the sound of the fellow fans enjoyment to cheer you. This was how it was at Filbert Street.

In the last few seasons the club have “modernised” The Post Horn Gallop apparently to capture the younger fans interest with a techno style Post Horn Gallop. As a fan of dance music, in my opinion the Post Horn Gallop is not a tune which should be adapted with in this style as quite frankly it does not sound very good. More recently the club have introduced the “Chelsea Dagger” after home goals have been scored which was received well for the first few times it was played.

However this generic and foreign to Leicestershire music is not what most of the fans which to have played at the ground (see Lisa’s poll) if anything at all! This song is played at other grounds and is universally disliked by other clubs fans that I have spoken with because of the after home goal celebrations being Americanised.

In reality the music is seen as a controlling influence for the club, to control the home fans at a time when they have feelings running high. The club and others believe that when the music stops that the typical fan will take their seat and order will be regained, which is what the club and others are after.

It seems that a majority (see Lisa’s poll) of fans wish that the club would reverse its stance on music at the match in favour of a return to the traditional way as it was at Filbert Street. In recent weeks Leicester Fans are being mocked in their own stadia by opposing fans because of the music that is played after goals.

“Lisa’s poll is just a microcosm of the Fans opinion but the results are quite clear.

It seems such a pointless topic, but feelings do run high about the Music and the way football is moving away from traditions to a more commercialised (Americanised) presentation of a football match. It seems a long way off, but will there be advertisements at half time, or when any break that occurs within the game? As I say it seems a way off but the club and football in general have gone this far where will it all end?

So there in short is the problem. What can us as fans (customers) do about it?

We have held polls & various discussions on Foxes Talk. The club have been notified at the fans consultative committees. Peter Jones must have had hundreds if not thousands of e-mails from Leicester City fans on this very subject.

Unfortunately the club have held their stance on this matter as; in their opinion the majority fans “appear” to enjoy the music. The thing is with this answer is in my opinion the fans also “appear” to enjoy Leicester scoring a goal which coincides with the music.

I am not suggesting that I have the answer; however I have some suggestions in positive ways to tackle the club on these issues.

1. Obtain the support of the majority of Leicester City fans who attend games and have an opinion on this issue. I believe that we would need to conduct a petition, where around 10,000 signatures would be needed to make the club take a serious look at their music policy.

2. We could form a group of fans, who would vote on issues such as these and then banners etc, would be created and paraded at home games to show the feeling of the majority group. The majority would be calculated from a poll on a specific subject and the majority view would be then shown to the decision makers at the club. For instance, let’s say I am wrong on this issue and there the majority of fans wanted to keep the music, then we could either keep the status quo or express our opinions in an agreed way.

This is what I believe is needed. I believe that we could obtain these 10,000 signatures; there are in my opinion at least 10,000 Leicester City supporters out there who dislike the music or at least prefer the traditional music. The ideas would require help, I know there are people out there and on here who want change so now is the time do some something.

If anyone has any sensible suggestions please air them as there is 1 common goal here to get a better match day experience for all us fans here at our club!

Remember it is not my club or your club, but our club together, as if we did not financially and vocally support Leicester City they would be a nothing club, also I would like to remind us fans that when Leicester Fans have their backs against the wall, they act appropriately, remember the night against Tottenham & the O’Neill saga, the fans acted appropriately, and their feelings were known. That made a difference; we still could change things for the better of the majority of us fans.

On a personal note I would rather not cause a fuss about nothing, I am a typical English person in the way that I would rather put op and shut up on things that negatively effect my day to day life. We have to do something here before we lose what supporting Leicester City is about. For one I am fed up of seeing our traditions eroded for this "newer better footballing experience"?

Blue Army!

[Oadlad]

A good post which gets to the heart of the problem, i.e. the club knows best and they are determined to control the response to pretty well everything.

In reality though, the goal music is a minor distraction played only once or twice on average per match. In contrast the drumming, right behind us, goes on for minutes some fifteen times a match. They say it is popular but would it be if everyone who thought it was good had it right behind them?

We are told by the club that the owner likes it and it is needed to replace the atmosphere which four years of poor results has killed. But he is in effect, American and brings to our game an American attitude. Our suggestion that it is rotated so everyone suffers/enjoys every four matches was rejected. They know best you see. I despair at times.

[Kilworthfox]

A good post which gets to the heart of the problem, i.e. the club knows best and they are determined to control the response to pretty well everything.

In reality though, the goal music is a minor distraction played only once or twice on average per match. In contrast the drumming, right behind us, goes on for minutes some fifteen times a match. They say it is popular but would it be if everyone who thought it was good had it right behind them?

We are told by the club that the owner likes it and it is needed to replace the atmosphere which four years of poor results has killed. But he is in effect, American and brings to our game an American attitude. Our suggestion that it is rotated so everyone suffers/enjoys every four matches was rejected. They know best you see. I despair at times.

Who or what is Our?

& rejected by who?

[blueblood]

Do you think it would be possible to have a vote on this at half-time, or 5 minutes prior to the match kicking off, like we did when we had to vote on the whole smoking issue?

I think that would be the best and fairest way to decide, if it could be arranged...

[davieG]

Do you think it would be possible to have a vote on this at half-time, or 5 minutes prior to the match kicking off, like we did when we had to vote on the whole smoking issue?

I think that would be the best and fairest way to decide, if it could be arranged...

People tend to vote for what they've already got so I suspect you'd get a vote to keep it, likewise if we'd have had a vote about introducing it in the first place I'd wager you'd have got a No vote.

[Hullfox]

Do you think it would be possible to have a vote on this at half-time, or 5 minutes prior to the match kicking off, like we did when we had to vote on the whole smoking issue?

I think that would be the best and fairest way to decide, if it could be arranged...

Would the vocal anti goal music accept the outcome of the vote if it were to go against them though?

My opinion is that it would be kept.

[Monk]

I have to admit, I quite like the goal horn.... but would be far better without music.

This issue has been done to death and there doesn't seem any middle ground for the club. It's a shame... but I don't think removing the goal music would automatically solve the lack of atmosphere problems at the drop of a hat.

The atmosphere at the Cheltenham game was quality, the club have to think hard about how to get that every game

[leicesterseddon]

I have to admit, I quite like the goal horn.... but would be far better without music.

This issue has been done to death and there doesn't seem any middle ground for the club. It's a shame... but I don't think removing the goal music would automatically solve the lack of atmosphere problems at the drop of a hat.

The atmosphere at the Cheltenham game was quality, the club have to think hard about how to get that every game

what...win 4-0 every game? yes please

i think the atmosphere has been wank for every game except huddersfield and peterborough personally. in every other game less than 1000 away supporters have consisitently been louder than 4000-5000 in the 'kop'. terrible really but it's like that at every ground now.

[Kilworthfox]

what...win 4-0 every game? yes please

i think the atmosphere has been wank for every game except huddersfield and peterborough personally. in every other game less than 1000 away supporters have consisitently been louder than 4000-5000 in the 'kop'. terrible really but it's like that at every ground now.

Why do our supporters think that atmosphere will or should be in the Kop? FFS it aint the Kop anymore, the Kop died when we moved to Filbert Way. Anyone who wants atmosphere stands in K or L. If there is confusion about where these areas are just listen to where some songs come from within the stadium. I am not having a go at the lads at the top few rows in the south stand, however you are tol few in numbers, and we all know that the tartan rugs & falsk brigade have over run the south stand.

I said this last season, & this season more fans who want some atmosphere continute to move to either L or K.

[Hullfox]

Why do our supporters think that atmosphere will or should be in the Kop? FFS it aint the Kop anymore, the Kop died when we moved to Filbert Way. Anyone who wants atmosphere stands in K or L. If there is confusion about where these areas are just listen to where some songs come from within the stadium. I am not having a go at the lads at the top few rows in the south stand, however you are tol few in numbers, and we all know that the tartan rugs & falsk brigade have over run the south stand.

I said this last season, & this season more fans who want some atmosphere continute to move to either L or K.

Not true.

Not true at all.

There are plenty of people in the kop who want to create atmosphere.

[leicesterseddon]

Why do our supporters think that atmosphere will or should be in the Kop? FFS it aint the Kop anymore, the Kop died when we moved to Filbert Way. Anyone who wants atmosphere stands in K or L. If there is confusion about where these areas are just listen to where some songs come from within the stadium. I am not having a go at the lads at the top few rows in the south stand, however you are tol few in numbers, and we all know that the tartan rugs & falsk brigade have over run the south stand.

I said this last season, & this season more fans who want some atmosphere continute to move to either L or K.

sorry i was just pointing out the difference, for the sake of argument, in noise levels between a small number and larger number of supporters

[Kilworthfox]

Not true.

Not true at all.

There are plenty of people in the kop who want to create atmosphere.

Agreed, just not enough to be heard

[Hullfox]

Agreed, just not enough to be heard

But isn't that the problem with the stadium design from the perspective of supporters hearing other areas of the ground?

Maybe someone should ask a player how the sound comes through on the pitch.

I sit in G and cannot hear L1 apart from the drum. That doesn't mean that they're not making a noise, it just means it isn't travelling in my direction.

Similarly I hear the kop whether they are loud or not.

[Kilworthfox]

But isn't that the problem with the stadium design from the perspective of supporters hearing other areas of the ground?

Maybe someone should ask a player how the sound comes through on the pitch.

I sit in G and cannot hear L1 apart from the drum. That doesn't mean that they're not making a noise, it just means it isn't travelling in my direction.

Similarly I hear the kop whether they are loud or not.

I bet you could hear Sheff Wednesday, I certainly did when they won 1 v 4 & i was in E3 as it was then at the top of the south stand.

I believe that the stadium design excuse is a kop out, I can hear the south stand when they all sing, however that happens once or twice a season. LCFC fans who want atmosphere need to congregate if they want to be heard. Sitting or standing at either end of the ground obviously does not work for either party, however I would suggest that momentum & feelings are moving towards L & K, I know of a few lads who are moving for a "better" match experience.

There is no suggestion that L or K are wonderful, but I honestly believe that they are the best areas for atmosphere. The Kop has been overrun by non singers & mardy bastards who don't want to be anything like L or k. that is fair enough but they have created this atmosphere in the Kop, and the Kop is labelled with as the place where atmosphere happens at Filbert way, it is simply untrue on the whole.

[Raj]

The answer is simple.

Move the Kop with the family Stand.

Somone just needs to start a petition.