Foxestalk playing at the Charity Fun Day and Footy Match For Loros

[Dr The Singh]

I'm sorry i missed this one guys... I hope Ash is well and well done in gettin ginto the finals, you guys can keep your heads well high in the fact that you weren't beaten by a better 'footballing' team but one that used every trick in the book!!!

[JIMMYWILLIS]

morning FT's

As one of the opposition I will give you my view on this. I agree the keeper reacted very badly to your young striker who was only going after a ball that was being fumbled all over the place. I told him he looked a right twat having a go at a 12 year old (that's how big he looks). There were a few very hard challenges but I don't think there was any intent to hurt anyone. There was plenty of verbal from your lads too so don't play so innocent. Reading the last few pages here there are a few of your members expressing their desire to 'give some back' so you aren't the pure footballing team some of you are trying to portray here.

Best wishes to the lad who went to hospital but that one was an accident and I am sure on this thread one of your guys refers to the great challange on the keeper (not so great if your player ends up in hopsital). We played to our strengths and beat you. The officials weren't great but when was the last time you started a thread about how great a ref was?? Silly scenes at the end with the bloke from the sidelines hurtling across to jump on the keeper. I think it's a good job a few of us with level heads were there to stop it before it started properly for his sake. My kids were watching and I was pretty embarrassed by some of the things going on but had the sense to make sure they didn't see me involved. Anyway thanks for turning up and it is a real shame it ended with people wishing they hadn't bothered, but your efforts were really appreciated.

[OriginalRobboFOX]

My apologies go out to all the FT team. I totally forgot about this (Sparky - my reminder-er was away and I ended up in London).

Anyway it sounds like you boys all made a good account of yourselves despite the opposition being a little feisty. Get well Ash and I'll be back for the next game and at the pub golf thats being arranged.

[DJ Barry Hammond]

Cheers for the kind comments from a few of you, I was delighted to make my foxestalk debut, just a shame we didn't bag a trophy with it.

Having chased up and down a pitch against you for Talking Balls I knew some of you were good players, but some of the football out there was a pleasure to watch, pass and move, touch, skill, movement of the ball.

The final was a shame, and I would agree in the sense that the referee did nothing to curtail what eventually happened. Getting a corner to be taken again because he 'wasn't ready' dispite the fact it was taken short was just evidence he wasn't taken what was becoming an increasingly heated game seriously. (Maybe I should have added he was in a poor position as he was on the same side as the linesman with the corner being the other side!)

Hope you're not feeling too sore this morning Ash - didn't look a nice challenge/collision but fair play for going in where it hurts.

And was that little Shingler speeding up the wing i saw - if i'd have been playing at left back i think i would have had to give a crude tackle or two, i wouldn't have wanted to be trying to track his afterburners too many times!

[Kilworthfox]

I thought the final was a competitive match, with a Sunday league touch to it which I enjoyed to be honest but I am one of the biggest & oldest lads we have. The major problem for me looking back was that it is up to the referee to control the game. The referee decides to either let things go, or enforce the laws of the game.

The problem yesterday was that the referee let many things go when BR had possibly committed a foul, however when FT had possibly committed a foul then the laws were fully in force. This was not too much of a problem 1st half, as I think the FT guys could accept these decisions as the scoreline was 0 v 0 and we are younger, no major OTT challenges had gone in which could have injured any player, FT or BR.

1st half I got clattered by the number 10 centre back, who played very well! I was just about in on goal when he took the ball away from me & I kicked off his boot. When you have played & watched football you know when a challenge is fair & when it is not & I knew that the challenge on me was a fair one & a very good one.

Switch to the second half when Tommeh cleaned out their left winger with another excellent challenge it was for some reason a foul? Also the decision making process from the referee was symbolic as he seemed to chop & change his mind & come out with a decision 10 seconds after the incident.

Also Tommassi got stared on by one of their centre backs in the 1st half for no reason at all. he stood his ground in a 50/50 challenge when the ball was dropping and their player took a dislike to it, but there was again no protection. Also at the start of the 2nd half a foul was given when a free-kick from just inside their half was kicked towards the D of our penalty area, a foul was given! Now I was playing up front & was not near to that area, but I have no idea what was going on as to me it looked fair. If it was a foul then I take the last bit back if someone more informed than I had a better view, but from that decision it seemed to set the tone for the 2nd half.

Unfortunately 2nd half the physicality and timing went out of the game in my opinion. At this point the referee should have brought his style of refereeing in line for both sides as although physical I enjoyed the match. I think when you are involved in a game such as the one I described you look for some protection from the referee, and the longer we went on playing without it the more frustrating the situation became.

Towards the end of the game (last 15 minutes) things got more tense as it was 1 v 0 and we were pushing forward and they obviously did not wish to concede an equaliser. We felt hard done by and when situations arise when a young player is being physically manhandled by guys a lot older it is not the done thing to stand by and watch. Now I am a fair minded guy(IMO) & I detest any violence at the local park especially when kids may be watching, but what happened was out of order, & I know the BR keeper quite well. Gladly it all simmered down, but the taste left in the mouth at the end, was that the game was one which we had an uphill struggle to win, although we could have done even with that ref!

Lastly goes a big mention to their players effort which was evident from the 1st whistle. I thought that in the end they wanted it more, possibly too much. Personally I don't think any kind of rematch would be a good idea as It would be a vehicle for retribution and if we had a fair ref yesterday maybe I would not have written what I just did.

Blue Army & that's to everyone not just FT members

[Kilworthfox]

morning FT's

As one of the opposition I will give you my view on this. I agree the keeper reacted very badly to your young striker who was only going after a ball that was being fumbled all over the place. I told him he looked a right twat having a go at a 12 year old (that's how big he looks). There were a few very hard challenges but I don't think there was any intent to hurt anyone. There was plenty of verbal from your lads too so don't play so innocent. Reading the last few pages here there are a few of your members expressing their desire to 'give some back' so you aren't the pure footballing team some of you are trying to portray here.

Best wishes to the lad who went to hospital but that one was an accident and I am sure on this thread one of your guys refers to the great challange on the keeper (not so great if your player ends up in hopsital). We played to our strengths and beat you. The officials weren't great but when was the last time you started a thread about how great a ref was?? Silly scenes at the end with the bloke from the sidelines hurtling across to jump on the keeper. I think it's a good job a few of us with level heads were there to stop it before it started properly for his sake. My kids were watching and I was pretty embarrassed by some of the things going on but had the sense to make sure they didn't see me involved. Anyway thanks for turning up and it is a real shame it ended with people wishing they hadn't bothered, but your efforts were really appreciated.

There were no angels on the pitch. I believe frustration got the better of a minor few under the circumstances. I understand you wish to play yesterday down. I have no real problem with the way BR went about their game! However the game deteriorated at the end because of the lack of protection offered to all players by the referee.

[General Smuts]

I'm still livid with the Ref and thier CB's & Keeper.

And i'm ridiculously sunburnt.

[JakeShingler]

Cheers for the kind comments from a few of you, I was delighted to make my foxestalk debut, just a shame we didn't bag a trophy with it.

Having chased up and down a pitch against you for Talking Balls I knew some of you were good players, but some of the football out there was a pleasure to watch, pass and move, touch, skill, movement of the ball.

The final was a shame, and I would agree in the sense that the referee did nothing to curtail what eventually happened. Getting a corner to be taken again because he 'wasn't ready' dispite the fact it was taken short was just evidence he wasn't taken what was becoming an increasingly heated game seriously. (Maybe I should have added he was in a poor position as he was on the same side as the linesman with the corner being the other side!)

Hope you're not feeling too sore this morning Ash - didn't look a nice challenge/collision but fair play for going in where it hurts.

And was that little Shingler speeding up the wing i saw - if i'd have been playing at left back i think i would have had to give a crude tackle or two, i wouldn't have wanted to be trying to track his afterburners too many times!

[adam]

Cheers lads. Shame it all kicked off but think we wanted it a lot more.

Come on you ROOFERS!

[lcfc_jme]

The way I saw it was that they, as old blokes who were used to the days whereby you could kick lumps out of people and get away with it, did exactly what they knew and proceeded to be overly physical (an admission by one of their players when I spoke to him, no less) in order to prevent us playing any football and winning the game. Outrageous and unnecessary tactics imo, but when the ref is so clearly fooking moronic and SO obviously dead-set on letting them win, what can you do? Seriously, I'd MUCH rather have been reffed by Uriah Rennie or Mark Clattenburg than that sack of shit. He was an absolutely incompetent disgrace and a major cause of what happened at the end of the game. How he could stand infront of me in the bar after the game and claim that lildave FELL OVER and that he HADN'T seen their 'keeper grab him by the throat and throw him is beyond me.

Yeah our side were mouthy, but theirs were just as bad in that respect. And with regards to the scuffles, I think when you see a grown man assault a 5'7" 18 year old mate, there's only ever going to be one outcome. Shameful actions on his part, to be fair..

It isn't at all sour grapes, because as a Sunday morning pub side, they were perfect. As a footballing side, they were awful.

I'd rather not have a rematch with them, 'cos it's got the potential to boil out of control. Think I'd rather play for the Cov lot, even with Mardy Speroni.

Glad Ashley's ok.

EDIT: This isn't to tar all of the opposition with the same brush, 'cos a few of them were decent blokes and didn't agree with the behaviour of certain people seeing as it was a charity event..

[JIMMYWILLIS]

lads, you were much better players but not a better team. The handbags etc spoiled what was a good day and my final word will be to thanks you all once again for supporting the event

and the keeper will be getting some stick for his child abuse!

[General Smuts]

Fair enough we mouthed off on occasion almost exclusively at that shambles of a referee. But actions speak louder than words and the actions of some of the scum on the other team spoke volumes.

[macfox]

Thanks for turning out for us lads.

I didn't see what happened with the couple of 'offs', so I won't comment on it.

Hope young Ash feels better soon, he's a lovely lad that I've known for quite a few years from going down the City.

The bottom line is we raised over a grand cash on the day, with donations still coming in so we will comfortably smash the 3 grand target we set ourselves.

Thanks again.

[Fez of Mahrez]

Thanks for turning out for us lads.

I didn't see what happened with the couple of 'offs', so I won't comment on it.

Hope young Ash feels better soon, he's a lovely lad that I've known for quite a few years from going down the City.

The bottom line is we raised over a grand cash on the day, with donations still coming in so we will comfortably smash the 3 grand target we set ourselves.

Thanks again.

You did a great job mate. Were you the one with the St George shorts on or the one with the thing round his neck who came over to us at the end? I was gonna say hello but wasn't sure.

[General Smuts]

You did a great job mate. Were you the one with the St George shorts on or the one with the thing round his neck who came over to us at the end? I was gonna say hello but wasn't sure.

I thought possibly the fella in the glasses sat in the far left corner with his missus and pram?

[macfox]

Yeah the balding grey haired bloke with a big sunburnt nose, and a thing round me neck.

[JakeShingler]

lads, you were much better players but not a better team. The handbags etc spoiled what was a good day and my final word will be to thanks you all once again for supporting the event

and the keeper will be getting some stick for his child abuse!

Im sure you lot were arguing with your selves.

At the end of the day we had near enough 2 full teams with a mix of players so if we played with the strongest team for the whole match like you did we would of won.

[Fez of Mahrez]

Yeah the balding grey haired bloke with a big sunburnt nose, and a thing round me neck.

Good stuff mate, it was a great event and obviously nothing you could do about on-the-pitch stupidity.

[Ashley]

Thanks for turning out for us lads.

I didn't see what happened with the couple of 'offs', so I won't comment on it.

Hope young Ash feels better soon, he's a lovely lad that I've known for quite a few years from going down the City.

The bottom line is we raised over a grand cash on the day, with donations still coming in so we will comfortably smash the 3 grand target we set ourselves.

Thanks again.

Cheers mate, still in alot of pain tho should be alright

[Sparky]

Im docked in Barcelona and have just logged on to see how the tourny finished , didnt expect all this !!

[Manwell Pablo]

Im docked in Barcelona and have just logged on to see how the tourny finished , didnt expect all this !!

Final was just a farce mate. Quite difficult to take seriously to be honest. Ref was clearly on their side as were the two linesman who flagged us off about 16-17 times and Im struggling to believe even half of those were right. They were an absloute joke in the first game we played as well, gave us everything, which makes me think the whole thing was somewhat stiched up from the start.

As for comment about me running on the pitch to "get involved" both times were to try and break up scuffles, both not started by us. Don't give me a reason to run on the pitch and I wont.

Congrats to them though they clearly wanted it more, very hard in the tackle and competitve. Unfotunatly a little too hard at times a few challenges were very high, alot of raised feet, one horrid challenge which was so late it would of been bordering a straight red in a normal game. And I don't think I really need to see anything about the really brave blokes who feel the need to man handel a lad half their size, . If they can get away with it though then why not it's not their job to make sure the game is played cleanly.

Mostly not a bad set of lads though I've got no problem with playing a team who want to play like that personally and I think the firs 45 was well contested and we had a few good chances, I think our main problem was we had quite a few smaller lads on in the second half who aren't used to games like that. Shook all their hands at the end, they were never going to win any other way, so well done to them.

Appologies to everyone for not playing our strongest team throughout but I needed to give everyone ago, wasn't a reflection of talent, we had two many midfielders yesterday unfortunantly and not enough defenders. I was given the impression it was suppose to be a day everyone enjoyed and I tried to make that happen.

[Tommeh]

They had their gameplan and stuck to it so fairplay to them for that, I don't agree with it but lets be honest if they'd have tried to play football we'd have run out clear victors.

I certainly really enjoyed playing in the final it was feriocious, intense and full of bottle from both sides, what happened,

happened everyone was fired up and wanted to win so much maybe with a few wiser heads - Sparky, Hullfox and Singh things may have passed over more calmly.

It may have been a charity event and taken very seriously but thats the way football is, when you line up with 3 officials decked out in black 11 each side with subs and proper positions it isnever a knock around.

Delighted by the support shown by each forum member to another, defenatly brought us clooser together and I'd much rather be involved in games like that than when we play the 1st game v cov and Internet foxes and the like.

[General Smuts]

wasn't a reflection of talent, we had two many midfielders yesterday unfortunantly and not enough defenders.

I thought our defence was fantastic yesterday. Maybes was magnificent and kept Chunk from the Gonnies sctum in the final won everything in the air and on the deck as well. He marshalled the defence brilliantly and kept me on point in both games. Would have been my player of the tournament had Hammond not have turned up and been Gigi Buffon! Tevez was immense as well mopping up everything and i can't blame him at all for the 1 goal we conceded all tounament, even though he does blame himself. Ched and Tommeh both played out of thier skins in both games, especially Tommeh who (i think) was out of position. And then there was Tadman channelling the spirit of Chris Powell at left back cleaning up the Bono/Wolverine monster in the Cov game and keeping his head brilliantly in the final.

[Maybes]

The moment in the final that summed it up for me, was when Tommeh was running with the ball from right to left and 3 of there player all came in with studs showing slide tackles.

[krefeld_fox]

unfortunately I am out long-term with a ruptured hamstring, maybes. would have lined up at centre half if fit.