dogadug Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 1-1 was a fair result last night we were very slow to come out the blocks & woke up a bit once they had scored but it was a poor home display & not many chances created one player does frustrate me N'Guessan seems to start off well for 10 minutes then just fades out of the game as on saturday their left back gets booked against him so what does he do - nowt he should of kept attacking him to make him make mistakes or even another bad foul to get sent off & not immpressed with his crossing adams or even gradel deserve their chance adams delvers quality crosses why NP does'nt rate him is cause for concern he may look a bit lightweight but does give his all & gradels trickery sometimes does come off on a plus it was great to see tunchev back makes defending look easy just hope the premiership piranhas keep away 2 points dropped for me we need to play better against teams like that
dandannieldanok Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 To use the old cliche, a game of two halves. We were dismal in the first, Peterborough literally had a shot every two minutes. Thankfully in the second half we decided to make a game of it and a draw was a fair result, we certainly didn't do enough to earn a win.
Dr The Singh Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 Maybe we can arrange an exchange.I love the Punjab, particularly Amritsar and the mountains to the north. Once took the (narrow gauge) railway from Chandigarth up to Simla, Magic. Sadly I am back in the UK at the moment, living in Harrow on the Hill.... Still at least it means I can get to a few more games than usual, Watford on saturday. Excellent, we can stay at my dads place in Jalandhar and make a trip to the mrs aunts at Kalka in the mountains and do some hunting!!
foxaholic Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 To use the old cliche, a game of two halves. We were dismal in the first, Peterborough literally had a shot every two minutes. Thankfully in the second half we decided to make a game of it and a draw was a fair result, we certainly didn't do enough to earn a win. A bit harsh our goalie didnt have to make one save whereas theirs was denying city on a few occassions and Fryatt missed one which a 11year old would have scored
marbelladave Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 A bit harsh our goalie didnt have to make one save whereas theirs was denying city on a few occassions and Fryatt missed one which a 11year old would have scored This really is the point. We were way better than the opposition yet completely failed to make our superiority count. We were too deferential first half and not organised or aggressive enough second. If we play well and draw with a decent side, I can accept, even embrace this but to give up 2 points without much of a fight leaves me distinctly unamused.
Shrenchel Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 dear god, if that's what qualifies as atmosphere these days!it was sung at the last game i went to and i took me a minute to even realise what it was, seeing as no one knows the actual tune to it... shame. Agreed. I know we've gotta take whatever noise we can get at home but I still think it's ridiculous that fans nowadays consider clapping and lalalaing along to a largely wordless song we stole off another club impressive. People have forgotten what a good atmosphere actually is.
foxaholic Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 Joe Lewis had plenty of saves to make from where I was sitting Thrac. He was keeping them in it at one point. hear hear he was their best player second half
Bert Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 If we had a choice between loaning Cleverly for another year or signing N'Guessan, we made the wrong decision. Fergie will not loan players he rates to a club more than once, fact. Why? For the fact he doesn't want them to get to familiar with said club.
Joe. Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 If we had a choice between loaning Cleverly for another year or signing N'Guessan, we made the wrong decision. Disagree. Cleverley demonstrated on a number of occassions last season that he wasn't up to the job as a right winger. At least N'Guessan shows flashes of brilliance on that side at times, even if he is frustratingly erratic.
dandannieldanok Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 A bit harsh our goalie didnt have to make one save whereas theirs was denying city on a few occassions and Fryatt missed one which a 11year old would have scored I know our goalie didn't but that doesn't change the fact they still had countless shots. This really is the point.We were way better than the opposition yet completely failed to make our superiority count. We were too deferential first half and not organised or aggressive enough second. If we play well and draw with a decent side, I can accept, even embrace this but to give up 2 points without much of a fight leaves me distinctly unamused. Did you watch the game?, we were not better than the opposition at all, they pissed all over us in the first half, men against boys. As I said game of two halves, they dominated the first half, we dominated the second, draw was a fair result.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 dear god, if that's what qualifies as atmosphere these days!it was sung at the last game i went to and i took me a minute to even realise what it was, seeing as no one knows the actual tune to it... shame. It took me ages to realise that was what it was. In fairness L1 made so much noise last night you could hear them from the West Stand
marbelladave Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 Did you watch the game?, we were not better than the opposition at all, they pissed all over us in the first half, men against boys. As I said game of two halves, they dominated the first half, we dominated the second, draw was a fair result. Exactly. We have a far stronger squad than they do, a much better start to the season and we were at home. We should have taken the game to them from the off, instead we stood off, gave them far too much respect and were lucky to go in only one down. Second half was better, but nowhere near good enough. Where were the attacking options, the pace, the width? NP's half time blast gave us the energy to find the equaliser but his conservative approach to team selection and substitutions thwarted us at every turn!
breadandcheese Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 Disagree. Cleverley demonstrated on a number of occassions last season that he wasn't up to the job as a right winger. At least N'Guessan shows flashes of brilliance on that side at times, even if he is frustratingly erratic. N'Guessan doesn't put his head up and look enough. He'll run with the ball into a three player cul-de-sac. He'll give the ball away cheaply. Maybe if he started looking up and improved his awareness, then he'd become a good player, but at the moment, he just doesn't do it enough. Cleverly is far more aware of the players around him, keeps the ball ticking over and is far more effective. He now appears to be far more of a goal threat as well. Like Oakley, he can perform on the right or in the middle. Admittedly, it keeps the right side quite tight and compact, but it allows the fullback to bomb forward.
dandannieldanok Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 Exactly.We have a far stronger squad than they do, a much better start to the season and we were at home. We should have taken the game to them from the off, instead we stood off, gave them far too much respect and were lucky to go in only one down. Second half was better, but nowhere near good enough. Where were the attacking options, the pace, the width? NP's half time blast gave us the energy to find the equaliser but his conservative approach to team selection and substitutions thwarted us at every turn! To be fair to them they've been unlucky this season not to win, our squad is more experienced but we don't have a divine right to win the game. Pearson should not have played Gallagher out of position and it set the tone. We made a mess of things last night, I'm just glad to have a point in the bag from it.
Fox92 Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 Ok, I suppose a good point to where we want to go but frustrating becuase I wanted all three points. We need to be beating teams like this at home. But, on another side, it was posotive, well, the second half was. The match itself was another good match, end to end, and there were lots of chances for both teams really. Liked the formation in the second half more than the first. Again, I was dissapointed with N'Guessan. Gallagher didn't work on the left, but behind the front two, he sees more of the ball, he gets shots in, he brings people into play and I really liked him there. Andy King did well when coming on. Obviousley playing that formation means that we have no wingers, and Nielson had to cover up that space and to be honest, he is never a right winger and it showed. A lot of positives that we can takes from that, but 2 points dropped again.
BrummieFOX Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 Joint 4th on points - well happy!! Our expectations as fans are ridiculously high, which is great as it shows ambition and that we won't settle for mediocracy, but I'm just waiting for people to start booing if we lose one or two on the trot. This is a hard league, top half would be a great season!
Fox92 Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 Joint 4th on points - well happy!! Our expectations as fans are ridiculously high, which is great as it shows ambition and that we won't settle for mediocracy, but I'm just waiting for people to start booing if we lose one or two on the trot. This is a hard league, top half would be a great season! Top half would be a great season really, but I think this is the season for promotion end of. Just like it was MK Dons' chance last year in League 1, it was Bristol City's when it was their first season here, I think it's ours but then again, it may be to early and we may end up doing what Derby did but I would take visiting the likes of Liverpool, Tottenham and Arsenal just to get hammered each week. A season in the Prem is what we, the fans, deserve because we have had poor football pretty much since 2004, we have visited League 1 and we have looked very, very, very rubbish at times. We have seen poor managers buy even worser players so, yes, my standards are high. Not 1st/2nd/3rd/4th but they are high. It is not a real tough division as it was. Newcastle, Middlesborough, and WBA are going to walk it because theres a to bigger gap.
Frenzied Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 I can't believe some of the crap that people come out with on here at times. Last night may have been our worst performance of the season so far but we were nowhere near as bad as some people are making out. Peterborough were the better side until they scored from a very dubious penalty (McClean was fouling Brown initially). However, after they scored we began to play and should have won the game, were it not for Fryatt's miss and a couple of great saves from their keeper. We're seventh in the league, unbeaten at home, we've lost once so far to the side that looks like it will run away with it, we're playing some good football and have the best squad we've had in years - get a grip.
purpleronnie Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 People keep stating we're 7th and unbeaten at home like that negates any criticism, they arent criticizing NP or the team about how they've done so far just on the performance last night, people get so up tight at the faintist of criticisms.
Alf Bentley Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 I can't believe some of the crap that people come out with on here at times. Last night may have been our worst performance of the season so far but we were nowhere near as bad as some people are making out. Peterborough were the better side until they scored from a very dubious penalty (McClean was fouling Brown initially). However, after they scored we began to play and should have won the game, were it not for Fryatt's miss and a couple of great saves from their keeper.We're seventh in the league, unbeaten at home, we've lost once so far to the side that looks like it will run away with it, we're playing some good football and have the best squad we've had in years - get a grip. Spot on! I'm really pleased with progress SINCE last season - and the progress made DURING last season was good enough! I'm really optimistic about the season ahead. I suspect we won't score enough goals to be serious promotion contenders, so I'd expect a few unlucky draws and 0-1 defeats. However City look well capable of giving any side in this league a good game, playing top quality football at least in patches - and probably finishing around 7th-12th, maybe a bit higher without too many injuries. The future is bright, the future is blue!
davieG Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 People keep stating we're 7th and unbeaten at home like that negates any criticism, they arent criticizing NP or the team about how they've done so far just on the performance last night, people get so up tight at the faintist of criticisms. This, and based on the logic in here anyone who suggests team changes or marks anyone below a 6 is also being equally critical.
dogadug Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 Top half would be a great season really, but I think this is the season for promotion end of. Just like it was MK Dons' chance last year in League 1, it was Bristol City's when it was their first season here, I think it's ours but then again, it may be to early and we may end up doing what Derby did but I would take visiting the likes of Liverpool, Tottenham and Arsenal just to get hammered each week. A season in the Prem is what we, the fans, deserve because we have had poor football pretty much since 2004, we have visited League 1 and we have looked very, very, very rubbish at times. We have seen poor managers buy even worser players so, yes, my standards are high. Not 1st/2nd/3rd/4th but they are high.It is not a real tough division as it was. Newcastle, Middlesborough, and WBA are going to walk it because theres a to bigger gap.
TrickyTrev Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 This, and based on the logic in here anyone who suggests team changes or marks anyone below a 6 is also being equally critical. And clearly wants Nigel Pearson sacked due to their deluded belief we have an ordained right to win every game.
lou Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 Well I didnt think we were that bad!! Personally thought it was a very entertaining game, albeit frustrating & we missed about 4 sitters not one! Didnt feel at all well but still enjoyed it as a lively encounter and Im very happy with our league position being well over what I anticipated. Great to see Tunch back on the pitch too! My night was made all the better by meeting Raj, it really was the highlight of my evening!!
Frenzied Posted 16 September 2009 Posted 16 September 2009 People keep stating we're 7th and unbeaten at home like that negates any criticism, they arent criticizing NP or the team about how they've done so far just on the performance last night, people get so up tight at the faintist of criticisms. I don’t think it aims to negate criticism, it simply adds a little perspective to the overreaction from some fans to a slightly below par performance. Last night was probably our worst performance of the season but we were nowhere near as bad as some have made out.
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