Peterboro Post Match Thread

[Simmo86]

Avid reader of the boards but have never posted until now after not believing what I’ve been reading!! Somehow I don’t think I’m going to make many friends after what I’m about to say but I’ve just got to get a few things off my chest.

I’m actually in a state of shock of how negative some of you are.....THRACIAN you need to be put in a straight jacket!! How can u call yourself a Leicester “Fan” after writing such a long, negative, pointless and clueless post in history?? Talk about an overreaction!!

Let me take u back to the end of the 2007-2008 season when Stoke City put the final nail in the coffin of what can only be described as a horrific previous 5 yrs of constant change of management & player. Thankfully Mandaric made an astute appointment of what I think is one of England’s best young managers in the Country....Nigel Pearson.

Sir Nigel did in one pre-season what the club has needed since the horrid times of Taylor etc!! He’s got rid of ALL the veterans coming to City for their final payday, got rid of any deadwood and put together a good group of hardworking, organised, talented group of players that COULD, with some SUPPORT and guidance, put us in with a shout of the playoffs this season and as “fans” we could also play a big part!

Last season we walked League one, breaking records along the way and this week went a whole 12 months of being unbeaten at home. How many other teams in the Country or Europe for this matter have a record like that?? I think some of you forget very quickly how far we have come in the last season and instead of being negative (THRACIAN!!!) after one “off” night (which we still didn’t lose), why not get behind the team a bit and also certain individual players and give them confidence rather than just moaning and looking at the bad points all the time.

THRACIAN how can you even say that your glad that Fryatt missed his chance so you don’t have to put up with “endless posters declaring a win is a win and defending the manager's choice of team because we got the right result.” YOU’RE A JOKE MATE!!! You talk as if your some sort of Leicester City Messiah that knows it all....”Nigel Pearson is clueless, the team are cr*p, I want to hang myself because we’ve had one off game, BLAH BLAH BLAH!!

Look at the start we’ve had. 7 games 12 points and could quite easily have been more with some luck in certain games. Not really a catastrophic start is it??? Ask any Ipswich fan if they would rather be in our shoes or theirs??

Ok, the game plan last night didn’t come off, but you talk as if we didn’t have a chance in the game, we were the worst team in history, Nigel Pearson is clueless and Matt Fryatt is the worst player to don the blue shirt. I can’t understand how a Leicester City fan that has suffered the same as all of us in recent years can be so negative towards a manager and his players! After what Pearson has done and where he has put us in the time he’s been with us I trust him 100% and you should also! Who are you to judge in such a negative way??

Yes we were very poor first half but we could also have gone in 4-1 up if Fryatt & N’Guesson bagged their chances, Howards header that was cleared off the line had gone in and don’t forget their Keeper also made some great saves (Gallagher shot). Second half we controlled the game more and didn’t quite get the rub of the green on some occasions but never really looked like conceding and at the end of the day we’ve got another point on the board towards the Playoff push and we (most importantly) didn’t lose the game. A Leicester City team 3 yrs ago would have lost last night!

Matty Fryatt without confidence is a very frustrating player to watch but most of that frustration comes from knowing that we know and have seen that he CAN and SHOULD score some of the chance he gets. However, Matty with confidence is a different animal altogether and I think we have a BIG part to play in this. He’s scored over 50 goals for us now....50 for god’s sake!! When was the last time a City striker did that?? On his day with confidence he can be awesome!! He links up play well, chases defenders tirelessly, makes clever runs and bags the goals for fun. (The guy scored a hat-trick in two consecutive games last season and was one of the highest scorers in the country don’t forget!!) People forget that he is ONLY 23 also!! The boy is something special and most “fans” would love to have a player like him!! It really saddens and angers me at some of your attitudes towards Matty!! Constantly doubting his ability and whether he can score goals at this level. Isn’t he already proving that he can make the step up (5 goals in 7 games)??? How many other strikers in the league have this record?? Instead of moaning about him why not get behind the lad and give him the confidence and support so next time he gets that chance he’s confident enough to pop it home and hopefully fulfil the fantastic potential he is showing.

Our team/squad isn’t the finished article yet. We’ve got a very good mix of some excellent young prospects, some very good experienced heads and also certain players (Tunchev, Wellens, Fryatt) who would walk into most Championship teams. This team WILL get better and better with time. Who knows where we could finish this season?? With the run we are on we should be going into EVERY game with no fear rather than doubting the team.

Instead of being negative towards the lads, why not look for positives?? Let’s not forget how far we have come over the last 12 months and get behind our beloved team like “FANS” should do!!

My first post also. This post above is the best one in the thread. Some people really need to chill. Yeh we dropped 2 points but can anyone really remember Weale making a save?? Peterboro started like a train for the first 20 last night but did they create any clear cut openings?? It took a very harsh penalty to give them the lead and if it wasn't from a bit of poor finishing and some great goalkeeping we could of gone in 3-1 up at the half! Whether we derseved it or not!!

Nige's changes a half time we good, and anyone who couldnt see that doesnt know football. He made it go from wide open game to a game we controlled just like saturday. OK, so we sacrificed some width, but we never looked liked losing. On another night we would of beat them in the second half but last night wasn't meant to be!

All hell is gonna break loose when we lose at home!!!!

[Heart-Shaped Fox]

Should have won the match. Easily. But there are still a couple of positives.

1. We didn't give in and NP isnt afraid of changes

2. TUNCHEV IS BACK!

Brown is getting done for pace, and I think the selection needs to be considered against which team we are playing. Posh were always going to do well in midfield and be quick up front and we nullified them in the 2nd half.

Think we are missing King in some games.

[Bellend Sebastian]

I've read everything that everyone has to say, and drawn the earthshattering conclusion that things could have gone a bit better and that we all wish that they had.

Am I correct?

[Koke]

I've read everything that everyone has to say, and drawn the earthshattering conclusion that things could have gone a bit better and that we all wish that they had.

Am I correct?

Something like that, yeah.

We were dire in the 1st half but I liked how we reacted to it and came out better in the 2nd half. I also liked how Nigel immediately spotted what was wrong, and changed the formation and personnel at half time. And second half we saw a different outfit. We were quicker, more urgent and overall we stepped up a gear. Not quite to the required standard, but meh...

Many previous managers would have left things till the 75th minute before changing a striker for a striker.

[marbelladave]

I can only stand in amazement at the lack of ambition shown by some on this forum.

Contrary to what has been said I do not, for one instant, expect us to win every every game. I do however expect us to try!

In all the games this season in which we have dropped points (except probably Sheffield Utd) we could and should have done better.

Against Ipswich we let them dictate play after they equalised, made absolutely no attempt to get forward and were time wasting with nearly 30 minutes to go. Disgraceful.

In Sheffield it was a different story, we played well but were disrupted by injuries, particularly to Howard and did well to get a point. One of our best efforts to date.

Against a strong Newcastle we were way too open for a difficult away game, our midfield paring did well enough first half though we did not create much, but were never going to hold on for 90 minutes against Barton, Nolan and Smith. Gallagher was a risk that did not work and left us hopelessly lop sided yet we made no attempt to change things until they scored. A tighter approach may well have got us a point.

Which brings us to last night, without going through all the details again, we were far too cautious, gave them the space to play and at no point did we really have enough attacking options on the pitch.

Whilst it is impossible to predict how any game will go in advance, our limitations have been consistent pretty much from game one, so last nights performance had an air of inevitability about it.

[lcfc_jme]

This place really is a joke at times.

In all honesty, I don't think we were anywhere near as bad last night as some on here are making out. We should easily have scored 5 or 6 ourselves and you don't get that if you play awful.

They had chances in the first half due to defensive mistakes and our willingness to let them come on to us. Saying that, they were, I felt, largely half-chances and not the clear-cut should-have-scored chances which we had in the first half ourselves. Seriously could and probably should have had 3 or 4 in the first half. Fryatt and N'Guessan guilty of horrendous misses.

Should have made pressure count in the second half after we equalised so early on, but ah well it wasn't to be. It happens. That's life.

Definitely 2 points dropped for me as opposed to a point gained, though there were plenty more positives to take from the game than negatives. T'is of course just my opinion.

Referee had a good game I thought as well, which is a rareity.

Also loved the banter in SK1 last night, very entertaining and made the night a thoroughly enjoyable one.

[Legend_in_blue]

The addition of Tunchev is the final piece of the puzzle. The bloke is an absolute class act. He makes defending look so easy and is always in the right place at the right time.

Amazing player to have in the squad and even more amazing considering we got him in while in L1.

[Thracian]

Avid reader of the boards but have never posted until now after not believing what I’ve been reading!! Somehow I don’t think I’m going to make many friends after what I’m about to say but I’ve just got to get a few things off my chest.

1) I’m actually in a state of shock of how negative some of you are.....THRACIAN you need to be put in a straight jacket!! How can u call yourself a Leicester “Fan” after writing such a long, negative, pointless and clueless post in history?? Talk about an overreaction!!

2) Let me take u back to the end of the 2007-2008 season when Stoke City put the final nail in the coffin of what can only be described as a horrific previous 5 yrs of constant change of management & player. Thankfully Mandaric made an astute appointment of what I think is one of England’s best young managers in the Country....Nigel Pearson.

3) Sir Nigel did in one pre-season what the club has needed since the horrid times of Taylor etc!! He’s got rid of ALL the veterans coming to City for their final payday, got rid of any deadwood and put together a good group of hardworking, organised, talented group of players that COULD, with some SUPPORT and guidance, put us in with a shout of the playoffs this season and as “fans” we could also play a big part!

4) Last season we walked League one, breaking records along the way and this week went a whole 12 months of being unbeaten at home. How many other teams in the Country or Europe for this matter have a record like that?? I think some of you forget very quickly how far we have come in the last season and instead of being negative (THRACIAN!!!) after one “off” night (which we still didn’t lose), why not get behind the team a bit and also certain individual players and give them confidence rather than just moaning and looking at the bad points all the time.

5) THRACIAN how can you even say that your glad that Fryatt missed his chance so you don’t have to put up with “endless posters declaring a win is a win and defending the manager's choice of team because we got the right result.” YOU’RE A JOKE MATE!!! You talk as if your some sort of Leicester City Messiah that knows it all....”Nigel Pearson is clueless, the team are cr*p, I want to hang myself because we’ve had one off game, BLAH BLAH BLAH!!

Look at the start we’ve had. 7 games 12 points and could quite easily have been more with some luck in certain games. Not really a catastrophic start is it??? Ask any Ipswich fan if they would rather be in our shoes or theirs??

6) Ok, the game plan last night didn’t come off, but you talk as if we didn’t have a chance in the game, we were the worst team in history, Nigel Pearson is clueless and Matt Fryatt is the worst player to don the blue shirt. I can’t understand how a Leicester City fan that has suffered the same as all of us in recent years can be so negative towards a manager and his players! After what Pearson has done and where he has put us in the time he’s been with us I trust him 100% and you should also! Who are you to judge in such a negative way??

7) Yes we were very poor first half but we could also have gone in 4-1 up if Fryatt & N’Guesson bagged their chances, Howards header that was cleared off the line had gone in and don’t forget their Keeper also made some great saves (Gallagher shot). Second half we controlled the game more and didn’t quite get the rub of the green on some occasions but never really looked like conceding and at the end of the day we’ve got another point on the board towards the Playoff push and we (most importantly) didn’t lose the game. A Leicester City team 3 yrs ago would have lost last night!

8) Matty Fryatt without confidence is a very frustrating player to watch but most of that frustration comes from knowing that we know and have seen that he CAN and SHOULD score some of the chance he gets. However, Matty with confidence is a different animal altogether and I think we have a BIG part to play in this. He’s scored over 50 goals for us now....50 for god’s sake!! When was the last time a City striker did that?? On his day with confidence he can be awesome!! He links up play well, chases defenders tirelessly, makes clever runs and bags the goals for fun. (The guy scored a hat-trick in two consecutive games last season and was one of the highest scorers in the country don’t forget!!) People forget that he is ONLY 23 also!! The boy is something special and most “fans” would love to have a player like him!! It really saddens and angers me at some of your attitudes towards Matty!! Constantly doubting his ability and whether he can score goals at this level. Isn’t he already proving that he can make the step up (5 goals in 7 games)??? How many other strikers in the league have this record?? Instead of moaning about him why not get behind the lad and give him the confidence and support so next time he gets that chance he’s confident enough to pop it home and hopefully fulfil the fantastic potential he is showing.

9) Our team/squad isn’t the finished article yet. We’ve got a very good mix of some excellent young prospects, some very good experienced heads and also certain players (Tunchev, Wellens, Fryatt) who would walk into most Championship teams. This team WILL get better and better with time. Who knows where we could finish this season?? With the run we are on we should be going into EVERY game with no fear rather than doubting the team.

Instead of being negative towards the lads, why not look for positives?? Let’s not forget how far we have come over the last 12 months and get behind our beloved team like “FANS” should do!!

1) Over reaction? If a car develops a puncture or the brakes fail do you leave it for a few weeks before you react? I'd rather we mended the malfunctioning of our team now rather than when it's too late. I've said before that we are not scoring enough goals and that there are reasons for this. All those reasons were apparent last night.

2) The Stoke match represented the sort of negativity I'd been complaining about for years (long before Pearson's arrival) and the incontestable view that Pearson is a big improvement - while welcome indeed - was to some extent inevitable because Coco The Clown might have represented an improvement on some of our leadership at and around that time.

Quite how that establishes Nigel Pearson as one of the best young managers in the country I don't know. Leicester are a biggish club and he had a much bigger budget than most to lift us from Division One. That doesn't mean he couldn't fail but you really would expect us to get out of a level of football we'd never previously gone down to. The challenge now is to get out of the Championship and we won't do that by scoring at the rate we're setting.

3) Nigel Pearson, in getting rid of the veterans only did what I'd been pleading for us to do for several seasons. So was his reintroduction of proper wingers and an attacking midfield player in King who contributed 11 goals. Read back in history if you disbelieve me cos I outlined the problems loud and clear on many occasions and was by no means alone in the view so why the club took so long to see what was clear to so many fans for so long I don't know).

And the hardworking/organised description you use for our current players is one I basically acknowledged even in my comments on last night's game and have emphasised time and again so it's not really in dispute. Talented? Well, I'd presumed they'd be that too and if they are then it's a pity they don't let it show for whatever reason.

4) If you want "comparisons" and reminders of last season I'd mention that we beat Peterborough 4-0 at home last season. Yesterday wasn't one "off day". We've had a lot of "off days" since last Christmas and I believe the tactics are to blame as much as the players.

5) I cannot remember describing Pearson as "clueless" or ever thinking it nor castigating the team as "crap" on a general basis. In fact I've even given Pearson a maximum 10 rating on one or two occasions and praised him unreservedly when he's deserved it.

Quite why you harp on the merits of our modest 12 points from 8 games I don't know but it surely can't be because you see it as a likely launchpad for promotion.

I've nowhere called it a catastrophic start so, again, your rhetoric is untrue and therefore irrelevent but, yes, I could accept it might be a basis for possible promotion were we not dropping so many unnecessary points and scoring so few goals through far too few players.

6) No the game plan didn't work last night so I'm glad we agree on that. Playing Gallagher in that role didn't work at Newcastle either so it was hardly surprising.

I've never once suggested or implied that Fryatt is the worst player to don a blue shirt, that's just more groundless rhetoric, In reality I was philosphical about his miss last night remarking that he at least scored the goal we did get and suggesting that it was time some of his team-mates started helping out in the scoring department.

As for trusting Pearson or anyone else, there are a fair few exceptions, but generally, as one of the long-time self-employed, I don't get to first base when it comes to trusting people. If people pleasantly surprise me then I'm pleased but, sorry, I'm not usually the trusting sort.

7) So you agree too that we were poor, just disagree with someone saying so. As for saying we could have won 4-1 that's just a visit to dreamland. Had we scored any other goals the game would have played out completely differently and our tactics would have changed. So that's just unjustified supposition. As is the very idea just now that we were likely to score four against anyone.

We've scored seven goals in 8 league matches so far tha's the fact. And I'd doubt that anyone else watching last night's game would have seen us as potential 4-1 winners. Some thought we were lucky to draw.

8) I have no "attitudes" towards Fryatt. I've praised him when he's deserved him and criticised him when he's not. Look through my player ratings of the last three seasons. He's been marked highly when he's done his job so, once again, you are making rhetorical comment that simply doesn't equate with the truth.

Yes, I have my reservations about his ability against better defenders. He started well in the Championship when he joiined us but quickly stalled and then went through a long period with injury troubles which meant his often being selected when it wasn't either wise or justified. So how good he really is as a Championship player has yet to be seen although I'm as hopeful as anyone else.

9) What we should be doing and what we actually do are different. Our tactics seem to reflect fear whether our players feel it or not with last night and the Ipswich games offering two good examples.

Pearson's effect on our fortunes has been well documented and appreciated by me as well as everyone else but while every team is in the process of evolution the season started eight games back and it is our approach rather than the skills of our opponents which have held us back.

What's happened over the last 12 months was wonderful It quickly returned us to the level that we'd never previously fallen from. You say our team will get better with time and when have I said they wouldn't. But not with the sort of tactics that has cost us unnecessarily lost points so far and not if we don't add more fire-power to the side.

The year we got relegated I said pre-season and repeated endlessly that we would not score sufficient goals because our defence made too little attacking contribution and failed to pass the ball accurately nor support quickly enough. Today's back four is in much the same mould, the newly-returned Tunchev excepted.

That being so and, sadly, with no prospect of a change of attitude if not personnel, it is vital that the remaining outfield players are all potential scorers which has not looked the case at all for whatever reason.

[CosbehFox]

I've read everything that everyone has to say, and drawn the earthshattering conclusion that things could have gone a bit better and that we all wish that they had.

Am I correct?

Exactly. Whilst I was disappointed last night, I didn't want to criticise and drag myself into believing the world is going to end with poor performances. In the same sense, I am not going to believe some false hope we're on for promotion as seen at Newkycastle, we just not going to have little bit of quality which is difference. Nonetheless, it's been an enjoyable and watchable season so far.....a lot better from the awful days of Levein etc. where the football was void of enthusiasm and effort.

[Simmo86]

I do however expect us to try!

Do you really think that we didnt try to win?

We couldn't get a foothold in the game for the first 20 mins, it happens with away sides sometimes just like we were better at brammal lane

After the first 20 we were the only side who were likely to score! imo. Not counting potshots from the half way line by tommy williams tho!!

Chill out, have a sandwich for godsake!!

[Unknown Fox]

my rollickin' got em going second half without a doubt

[Thracian]

Exactly. Whilst I was disappointed last night, I didn't want to criticise and drag myself into believing the world is going to end with poor performances. In the same sense, I am not going to believe some false hope we're on for promotion as seen at Newkycastle, we just not going to have little bit of quality which is difference. Nonetheless, it's been an enjoyable and watchable season so far.....a lot better from the awful days of Levein etc. where the football was void of enthusiasm and effort.

If we're going to discuss the Levein/Kelly eras I'll look out some really critical adjectives!

[marbelladave]

I do however expect us to try!

Do you really think that we didnt try to win?

We couldn't get a foothold in the game for the first 20 mins, it happens with away sides sometimes just like we were better at brammal lane

After the first 20 we were the only side who were likely to score! imo. Not counting potshots from the half way line by tommy williams tho!!

Chill out, have a sandwich for godsake!!

We started last night more concerned with what the opposition were going to do to us rather than what we were going to do to them, as I have said in more detail above, we stood off and let Posh dictate the game, which they did for most of the first half.

With our midfield worried about defensive duties, there was little support for our strikers, yet nothing was done until half time. Even the subs reduced our attacking options even further with the result that Fryatt was pretty much required to win the game on his own, again!

The fact that he almost managed to do it shows how close we were to decent victory. Please, please get him some decent support!

No sandwich required, a nice, spicy homemade curry is lined up for later!

[Salieri]

Avid reader of the boards but have never posted until now after not believing what I’ve been reading!! Somehow I don’t think I’m going to make many friends after what I’m about to say but I’ve just got to get a few things off my chest.

I’m actually in a state of shock of how negative some of you are.....THRACIAN you need to be put in a straight jacket!! How can u call yourself a Leicester “Fan” after writing such a long, negative, pointless and clueless post in history?? Talk about an overreaction!!

Let me take u back to the end of the 2007-2008 season when Stoke City put the final nail in the coffin of what can only be described as a horrific previous 5 yrs of constant change of management & player. Thankfully Mandaric made an astute appointment of what I think is one of England’s best young managers in the Country....Nigel Pearson.

Sir Nigel did in one pre-season what the club has needed since the horrid times of Taylor etc!! He’s got rid of ALL the veterans coming to City for their final payday, got rid of any deadwood and put together a good group of hardworking, organised, talented group of players that COULD, with some SUPPORT and guidance, put us in with a shout of the playoffs this season and as “fans” we could also play a big part!

Last season we walked League one, breaking records along the way and this week went a whole 12 months of being unbeaten at home. How many other teams in the Country or Europe for this matter have a record like that?? I think some of you forget very quickly how far we have come in the last season and instead of being negative (THRACIAN!!!) after one “off” night (which we still didn’t lose), why not get behind the team a bit and also certain individual players and give them confidence rather than just moaning and looking at the bad points all the time.

THRACIAN how can you even say that your glad that Fryatt missed his chance so you don’t have to put up with “endless posters declaring a win is a win and defending the manager's choice of team because we got the right result.” YOU’RE A JOKE MATE!!! You talk as if your some sort of Leicester City Messiah that knows it all....”Nigel Pearson is clueless, the team are cr*p, I want to hang myself because we’ve had one off game, BLAH BLAH BLAH!!

Look at the start we’ve had. 7 games 12 points and could quite easily have been more with some luck in certain games. Not really a catastrophic start is it??? Ask any Ipswich fan if they would rather be in our shoes or theirs??

Ok, the game plan last night didn’t come off, but you talk as if we didn’t have a chance in the game, we were the worst team in history, Nigel Pearson is clueless and Matt Fryatt is the worst player to don the blue shirt. I can’t understand how a Leicester City fan that has suffered the same as all of us in recent years can be so negative towards a manager and his players! After what Pearson has done and where he has put us in the time he’s been with us I trust him 100% and you should also! Who are you to judge in such a negative way??

Yes we were very poor first half but we could also have gone in 4-1 up if Fryatt & N’Guesson bagged their chances, Howards header that was cleared off the line had gone in and don’t forget their Keeper also made some great saves (Gallagher shot). Second half we controlled the game more and didn’t quite get the rub of the green on some occasions but never really looked like conceding and at the end of the day we’ve got another point on the board towards the Playoff push and we (most importantly) didn’t lose the game. A Leicester City team 3 yrs ago would have lost last night!

Matty Fryatt without confidence is a very frustrating player to watch but most of that frustration comes from knowing that we know and have seen that he CAN and SHOULD score some of the chance he gets. However, Matty with confidence is a different animal altogether and I think we have a BIG part to play in this. He’s scored over 50 goals for us now....50 for god’s sake!! When was the last time a City striker did that?? On his day with confidence he can be awesome!! He links up play well, chases defenders tirelessly, makes clever runs and bags the goals for fun. (The guy scored a hat-trick in two consecutive games last season and was one of the highest scorers in the country don’t forget!!) People forget that he is ONLY 23 also!! The boy is something special and most “fans” would love to have a player like him!! It really saddens and angers me at some of your attitudes towards Matty!! Constantly doubting his ability and whether he can score goals at this level. Isn’t he already proving that he can make the step up (5 goals in 7 games)??? How many other strikers in the league have this record?? Instead of moaning about him why not get behind the lad and give him the confidence and support so next time he gets that chance he’s confident enough to pop it home and hopefully fulfil the fantastic potential he is showing.

Our team/squad isn’t the finished article yet. We’ve got a very good mix of some excellent young prospects, some very good experienced heads and also certain players (Tunchev, Wellens, Fryatt) who would walk into most Championship teams. This team WILL get better and better with time. Who knows where we could finish this season?? With the run we are on we should be going into EVERY game with no fear rather than doubting the team.

Instead of being negative towards the lads, why not look for positives?? Let’s not forget how far we have come over the last 12 months and get behind our beloved team like “FANS” should do!!

You should post on here more often.

[Daggers]

You should post on here more often.

He can't - he's too busy doing his blog.

I mean to say - when was the last time Matty Fryatt was, and I quote here, awesome?!

[Guest]

Seriously, some people need to look at their expectations and lower them somewhat. That's not a "lack of ambition" but a dose of realism.

[Jimmy]

I do however expect us to try!

Do you really think that we didnt try to win?

We couldn't get a foothold in the game for the first 20 mins, it happens with away sides sometimes just like we were better at brammal lane

After the first 20 we were the only side who were likely to score! imo. Not counting potshots from the half way line by tommy williams tho!!

Chill out, have a sandwich for godsake!!

well he's very reluctant to bring on a 3rd sub, in this case a striker when we're starting to get on top early enough to allow someone like Waghorn enough time to actually make a difference

He can't - he's too busy doing his blog.

I mean to say - when was the last time Matty Fryatt was, and I quote here, awesome?!

probably around the time he got his new contract

[Salieri]

Very few (if any) of his performances could have been described as being "awesome", but 38 goals in his last 59 league and cup appearances isn't a bad return.

[Raj]

Well I didnt think we were that bad!!

Personally thought it was a very entertaining game, albeit frustrating & we missed about 4 sitters not one!

Didnt feel at all well but still enjoyed it as a lively encounter and Im very happy with our league position being well over what I anticipated.

Great to see Tunch back on the pitch too!

My night was made all the better by meeting Raj, it really was the highlight of my evening!!

:thumbsup:

Fcuk knows what some people are gonna do when we actually go on a bad run!!!!

We should be walking this league really innit?????

[Raj]

Did i mention my gorgeous daughter's photo was in the programmes last night.

Think i may have told a few people!!!

[Lillehamring]

Spot on! I'm really pleased with progress SINCE last season - and the progress made DURING last season was good enough!

I'm really optimistic about the season ahead. I suspect we won't score enough goals to be serious promotion contenders, so I'd expect a few unlucky draws and 0-1 defeats. However City look well capable of giving any side in this league a good game, playing top quality football at least in patches - and probably finishing around 7th-12th, maybe a bit higher without too many injuries.

The future is bright, the future is blue!

i think the thing at the moment is that a lot of posters on here can sense how close we are to actually being promotion contenders, as satisfying as our position is, its fair to say that had we scored a few more goals we would be in an even stronger position.

as city fans we are begining to sense that this league isn't so tough (as i felt in the years before we went down, rather that we were just very bad) - now we have a good team and a good manager this league is beatable... and had it not been for a lack of quality and precision in the final 3rd we would be in nosebleed territory.

so people are going to litter these threads with their frustrations and expectations, because we are doing exactly what alf here says... i think a lot of the so-called 'negativity' in this thread isn't negativity at all, but rather a twisted kind of positivity, that people are demanding higher standards than they see, because they know we have a squad capable of doing even better.

[marbelladave]

i think the thing at the moment is that a lot of posters on here can sense how close we are to actually being promotion contenders, as satisfying as our position is, its fair to say that had we scored a few more goals we would be in an even stronger position.

as city fans we are begining to sense that this league isn't so tough (as i felt in the years before we went down, rather that we were just very bad) - now we have a good team and a good manager this league is beatable... and had it not been for a lack of quality and precision in the final 3rd we would be in nosebleed territory.

so people are going to litter these threads with their frustrations and expectations, because we are doing exactly what alf here says... i think a lot of the so-called 'negativity' in this thread isn't negativity at all, but rather a twisted kind of positivity, that people are demanding higher standards than they see, because they know we have a squad capable of doing even better.

Brilliant!

Thank you... :D saved me a lot of typing!

And it is not that twisted, at times this season we have looked pretty decent, decent enough to see a promotion push as a distinct possibility.

But somehow I sense a lack of belief, a thought that we are maybe punching above our weight somewhat, that we need to be.....well, a bit cautious, you know, hold on to what we have rather than take a risk and push for more.

I feel that we are capable of doing really well this season, which is quite strange, given that in these matters I am usually a pretty cautious sort of person, but I am genuinely convinced that if we can sort out just one or two minor issues we can give the richer, more fancied clubs a real run for their money.

[Bert]

If we ever get to the Premiership again, do you want to just drop by for a season, or make a real go of it?

I'd love it if we go up this season, but we'd be straight back down if we went up, no question about it. If we have a solid mid-table/top 10 finish this year, slowly but surely improve our squad, get a bit of togetherness and a solid settled squad, then we can make a proper push the season after and see if we can actually stay up in the seasons to follow.

We've got all the foundations being set at the minute, which is great, but too much too soon could be a bad thing. We'd get some good players come to the club, but only for the £££.

[Raj]

If we ever get to the Premiership again, do you want to just drop by for a season, or make a real go of it?

I'd love it if we go up this season, but we'd be straight back down if we went up, no question about it. If we have a solid mid-table/top 10 finish this year, slowly but surely improve our squad, get a bit of togetherness and a solid settled squad, then we can make a proper push the season after and see if we can actually stay up in the seasons to follow.

We've got all the foundations being set at the minute, which is great, but too much too soon could be a bad thing. We'd get some good players come to the club, but only for the £££.

[marbelladave]

If we ever get to the Premiership again, do you want to just drop by for a season, or make a real go of it?

I'd love it if we go up this season, but we'd be straight back down if we went up, no question about it. If we have a solid mid-table/top 10 finish this year, slowly but surely improve our squad, get a bit of togetherness and a solid settled squad, then we can make a proper push the season after and see if we can actually stay up in the seasons to follow.

We've got all the foundations being set at the minute, which is great, but too much too soon could be a bad thing. We'd get some good players come to the club, but only for the £££.

Agree entirely.

Which is why I said a promotion push, rather than get promotion. I simply want to see us make the effort, be the best team we can and fight for the best finish we can. I believe we have the talent to be 'in the mix' come April and that, in itself, would be great.

Promotion itself, for all the reasons that have been pointed out, could well be a step too far at this time.