breadandcheese Posted 20 September 2009 Posted 20 September 2009 I've never doubted Fryatt's ability and never doubted that he'd score goals in the championship. I remember the goal he scored against Derby in the year we were relegated. You can see from that he's got a neat touch and a good finish. He also pulls into good spaces on the pitch, if you watch his movement. His biggest battle is with himself. It's keeping his concentration so that he makes the most of his opportunities. If he could nail that, he wouldn't be with us and would be a premiership striker.
maddog Posted 20 September 2009 Posted 20 September 2009 Start Gallagher up with Fryatt and they will get a hell of a lot more goals between them than a Howard/Fryatt combo.
MPH Posted 20 September 2009 Posted 20 September 2009 Hi everyone,a newbie so go easy on me.I think what people have to remember is that good strikers will probaly score a 1in 3/4shots ratio,so on that score he is doing very well. Take his and Dany N'guessans goals out of the equation,only Waghorn has scored,now that is a worry.
MPH Posted 20 September 2009 Posted 20 September 2009 People will mention his weaknesses... and yes, he has strengths and weaknesses but bloody hell, folks , if you want a striker with no real weaknesses you will need to fork out 20 million pounds.. he is 23 years old, scored 30 odd goals last seasons and has scored 8 goals in his first 10 games this season. FORGET 2 years ago in the championship, i dont see the logic in basing opinions and judging him on 2 seasons ago! Should we really not be a little bit more positive about him?
lou Posted 21 September 2009 Posted 21 September 2009 And great last season. Yes but I was talking specifically about this season as some of us (me included) thought he'd struggle in the CCC. Last season wasnt relevant to my point
dogadug Posted 21 September 2009 Posted 21 September 2009 If he keeps his scoring form up, maybe we'll be getting a 30 million offer from Liverpool After all, they need another striker to partner Torres
Guest ttfn Posted 21 September 2009 Posted 21 September 2009 People will mention his weaknesses... and yes, he has strengths and weaknessesbut bloody hell, folks , if you want a striker with no real weaknesses you will need to fork out 20 million pounds.. he is 23 years old, scored 30 odd goals last seasons and has scored 8 goals in his first 10 games this season. FORGET 2 years ago in the championship, i dont see the logic in basing opinions and judging him on 2 seasons ago! Should we really not be a little bit more positive about him? Absolutely spot on
Babylon Posted 21 September 2009 Posted 21 September 2009 I can remember Fryatt having a lot of doubters and most people saying he would struggle in the championship, After today`s result I believe if i have my facts right he is now joint top goalscorer in the league with 7 goals. Annoys me the amount of people that have been quick to jump on this guy`s back in the past and say he isn`t good enough, no doubt all the doubters have changed there tune now. I did explain to many people that Makes a difference that he has decent players around him to give him the quality ball`s needed to score, where when we have been in the championship previously this hasn`t been the case. also another point id like to make, Someone on here mentioned about if fryatt get`s injured then we would struggle, considering we have been struggling to score goals regularly I don`t think pearson should discount Campbell. I for one don`t like Campbell for the attitude he has shown the club and his unwillingness to drop his wage demands to play regular football elsewhere, however I think given the amount of money were paying this guy if fryatt gets injured then I think we have to look at using him. People had good reason to question his ability in this league!!!
Raj Posted 21 September 2009 Posted 21 September 2009 Even I will admit he has been playing well lately. The things I slagged him off for seem to have improved and the way he works the channels is sort of like watching a young me. Now admit Big Steve is shit!!!
Alexikokopops Posted 21 September 2009 Posted 21 September 2009 Anyone who didn't have even the slightest bit of doubt that he could struggle in the Championship (if we got there again) at the beginning of our League One season after 2 goals in 4000 games (where, contrary to popular belief, he played up front a lot) is either lying or just an idiot. That's when I had my doubts
Raj Posted 21 September 2009 Posted 21 September 2009 Anyone who didn't have even the slightest bit of doubt that he could struggle in the Championship (if we got there again) at the beginning of our League One season after 2 goals in 4000 games (where, contrary to popular belief, he played up front a lot) is either lying or just an idiot. That's when I had my doubts Im the later.(Is later spelled the same in this context as it would be if i said"see you later"?
Alexikokopops Posted 21 September 2009 Posted 21 September 2009 Im the later.(Is later spelled the same in this context as it would be if i said"see you later"? Latter!
The Doctor Posted 21 September 2009 Posted 21 September 2009 Nonsense or some truth? harewood to notts county?
Hugo Sanchez Posted 21 September 2009 Posted 21 September 2009 But the Fraytt haters are the ones who think Howard is our best player. Howard got 0 goals this season and he'll be lucky to get 6. Fryatt don't play, Howard will not score the goals.
Webbo Posted 21 September 2009 Posted 21 September 2009 Anyone who didn't have even the slightest bit of doubt that he could struggle in the Championship (if we got there again) at the beginning of our League One season after 2 goals in 4000 games (where, contrary to popular belief, he played up front a lot) is either lying or just an idiot. That's when I had my doubts But those people who didn't doubt him in this league have, so far ,been proved right. So how can they be idiots?
James. Posted 21 September 2009 Posted 21 September 2009 I think it's a bit naive not to take into account 1. the environment Fryatt was playing in last time we were in the Championship and 2. how well he played last year in a very different environment when forming an opinion on how well he would do this year.
McFoxy Posted 21 September 2009 Posted 21 September 2009 I expected Fryatt to make the step up OK. I didn't expect him to start quite as well as he has though. I thought 10-15 goals for us throughout the season. The big problem is the lack of goals from elsewhere. last season there were a few coming from positions all over, especially the wing and centre mid. This year its all Matty and if he loses form or he gets injured we will be going back down unless someone else starts weighing in. Overall i'm quite pleased with the start but if we just keep relying on Fryatt to score for us we will come unstuck very quickly.
Alexikokopops Posted 21 September 2009 Posted 21 September 2009 But those people who didn't doubt him in this league have, so far ,been proved right. So how can they be idiots? He scored 4 goals in 34 appearances and then 3 goals in 35. I'm not saying you had to completely doubt him. I just think that if you didn't have even the slightest thought of "oh, he's done pretty rubbish these past two seasons, is there even a tiny chance he might not be the answer at this level?" than you have a problem with rational thinking and can't be trusted with anything sharper than a crayon.
Milky Posted 21 September 2009 Posted 21 September 2009 I think it's a bit naive not to take into account 1. the environment Fryatt was playing in last time we were in the Championship and 2. how well he played last year in a very different environment when forming an opinion on how well he would do this year. 3. His age
Babylon Posted 21 September 2009 Posted 21 September 2009 He scored 4 goals in 34 appearances and then 3 goals in 35. I'm not saying you had to completely doubt him. I just think that if you didn't have even the slightest thought of "oh, he's done pretty rubbish these past two seasons, is there even a tiny chance he might not be the answer at this level?" than you have a problem with rational thinking and can't be trusted with anything sharper than a crayon.
Finnegan Posted 21 September 2009 Posted 21 September 2009 He scored 4 goals in 34 appearances and then 3 goals in 35. I'm not saying you had to completely doubt him. I just think that if you didn't have even the slightest thought of "oh, he's done pretty rubbish these past two seasons, is there even a tiny chance he might not be the answer at this level?" than you have a problem with rational thinking and can't be trusted with anything sharper than a crayon. I wish I'd come out with that one.
savedave Posted 21 September 2009 Posted 21 September 2009 On Ladbrokes he's 5/1 for seasons top scorer behind Chopra who's at 7/2..
Webbo Posted 21 September 2009 Posted 21 September 2009 He scored 4 goals in 34 appearances and then 3 goals in 35. I'm not saying you had to completely doubt him. I just think that if you didn't have even the slightest thought of "oh, he's done pretty rubbish these past two seasons, is there even a tiny chance he might not be the answer at this level?" than you have a problem with rational thinking and can't be trusted with anything sharper than a crayon. When we first signed him at 19 he scores a lot of goals and kept us up. Then in the relegation season in a struggling team carrying an injury he didn't do so well. Then last season he scored 31 goals. It's really not rocket science and so far I've proven right. Can I be trusted with a pencil yet?
Babylon Posted 21 September 2009 Posted 21 September 2009 When we first signed him at 19 he scores a lot of goals and kept us up. Then in the relegation season in a struggling team carrying an injury he didn't do so well. Then last season he scored 31 goals. It's really not rocket science and so far I've proven right.Can I be trusted with a pencil yet? He scored 6 goals when he first signed to "keep us up". The following two seasons he was "carrying an injury", overweight or just shit and scored 7 goals in 69 games. A grand total of 13 goals in 88 games a goal every 6.8 games... Yet you still had 100% belief he would be the answer to our goalscoring problems?
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