C-man Posted 26 July 2010 Posted 26 July 2010 Any idea of a meet time for Saturday yet? Looking likely that I'll only do the pre-match.
purpleronnie Posted 26 July 2010 Posted 26 July 2010 You have to continue and do what you can so many groups try and start but after one hurdle give up, it wasnt easy for celtic's group or yorks but they stuck at it.
Fosse Boy Posted 26 July 2010 Author Posted 26 July 2010 Any idea of a meet time for Saturday yet? Looking likely that I'll only do the pre-match. We'll most likely be in Leicester from late morning onwards. Firmer plans will be made clear in a couple of days.
Floating Fox Posted 26 July 2010 Posted 26 July 2010 Any idea of a meet time for Saturday yet? Looking likely that I'll only do the pre-match. Think it'll be about a 10-11 start at the counting house mate.
Lillehamring Posted 26 July 2010 Posted 26 July 2010 i'm guessing that it is not a question of a definite yes or no, so i'm just hoping that the club have given you lads enough to work with and the positivity that there is a reason to keep working on it.
Samilktray Posted 26 July 2010 Posted 26 July 2010 Will the statement be released on Sky Sports News?
Mawsley Posted 27 July 2010 Posted 27 July 2010 Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that there's a likelihood of people at the club who will express reservations because of the Ultra tag. Precisely. Unfortunately some people simply won't be told. Care to explain how you're so 'knowledgeable' of the incident? No. But he is a member of this forum and is well aware of what actually happened when he was called into the club to view his actions.
Tommy G Posted 27 July 2010 Posted 27 July 2010 Been Glued to Sky Sports News all morning but nothing has been released yet
davieG Posted 27 July 2010 Posted 27 July 2010 Precisely. Unfortunately some people simply won't be told. No. But he is a member of this forum and is well aware of what actually happened when he was called into the club to view his actions. I know he's a member of this forum and I've met him on many occasions - why are you not prepared to divulge you involvement? Do you work for the club in some capacity? Are you associated with the police? It must be something along these lines for you to have seen the video.
purpleronnie Posted 27 July 2010 Posted 27 July 2010 Well looks like its been leaked on another forum. Sounds like it went terribly, and from what I read the stewards are going to be even more OTT this coming season. I still cant get my head round clubs being so against fans making an atmosphere, everywhere else they encourage it. Still baffles me. Why anyone would go to games in england anymore with what you have to put up with? I guess most simply dont care if there is an atmosphere or not.
Edmund Posted 27 July 2010 Posted 27 July 2010 I still cant get my head round clubs being so against fans making an atmosphere, everywhere else they encourage it. Still baffles me. They contradict themselves massively especially when they release cliche statements on the O.S saying 'get behind the team'.
easilee Posted 27 July 2010 Posted 27 July 2010 Seriously do not understand why this issue has attracted so many negative knobs or piss takers [who are fellow city fans]. I expect it from other clubs supporters but this mystifies me. Fair enough, taking flares in is a no-no but flags? They will take our money as long as we do as we're told. We can have a good time but only as specified by the club. Anyone would think that a forward looking club or business would at least entertain the idea that an all singing and jumping set of supporters can only be a positive thing. . Then there is the 'Ultra' tag issue. Anyone who has spent a little time looking through these posts, or facebook, or the Fosse Boys website will very quickly see that the members are not facscist hooligans on a rampage. In fact it's the exact opposite and comprises all ages, colours/creeds of Leicester city fans who want to support in a more vocal and celebratory way.The Ultras title is an adapted version of the Continental style of support and is anti facist,anti hooligan and anti moron. It's the Ultra style of supporting during the match, not politics that we are interested in. Do the club think we are going to try and influence club decisions through some sort of Mafia style organisation. That is laughable if true. If we do get this thing going in a positive and sensible way it is us who will be remembered by our players when we've cheered them on win or lose, who'll be remembered by our rival fans because of the atmosphere we create, and who will be applauded and praised by the club and chairman for being "the best fans in the country" with no help from them whatsoever.
Ilkeston_Fox Posted 27 July 2010 Posted 27 July 2010 Seriously do not understand why this issue has attracted so many negative knobs or piss takers [who are fellow city fans]. I expect it from other clubs supporters but this mystifies me. Fair enough, taking flares in is a no-no but flags? They will take our money as long as we do as we're told. We can have a good time but only as specified by the club. Anyone would think that a forward looking club or business would at least entertain the idea that an all singing and jumping set of supporters can only be a positive thing. . Then there is the 'Ultra' tag issue. Anyone who has spent a little time looking through these posts, or facebook, or the Fosse Boys website will very quickly see that the members are not facscist hooligans on a rampage. In fact it's the exact opposite and comprises all ages, colours/creeds of Leicester city fans who want to support in a more vocal and celebratory way.The Ultras title is an adapted version of the Continental style of support and is anti facist,anti hooligan and anti moron. It's the Ultra style of supporting during the match, not politics that we are interested in. Do the club think we are going to try and influence club decisions through some sort of Mafia style organisation. That is laughable if true. If we do get this thing going in a positive and sensible way it is us who will be remembered by our players when we've cheered them on win or lose, who'll be remembered by our rival fans because of the atmosphere we create, and who will be applauded and praised by the club and chairman for being "the best fans in the country" with no help from them whatsoever. Typifies some of the 'supporters' this club has. I'm sure every club has them but even so. How can they be content with the 'atmosphere' at the WS? Surely getting a group like this off and running to aid in a better supporting fanbase aswell as the increased atmosphere is only a good thing? All the negative comments just make me want this group to succeed even more. I wonder how many of the haters would want to stand with us if it did get going.
Unabomber Posted 27 July 2010 Posted 27 July 2010 It seems that going to the club in the first place was a bad move.
purpleronnie Posted 27 July 2010 Posted 27 July 2010 I would just group together anyway, banners would be great but its not everything.
Guest Bilo Posted 27 July 2010 Posted 27 July 2010 I really do despair at the idiots who run our club. Five minutes research on us as a group, either by looking at this thread or our website, would have told anyone with an IQ of two or more figures that we could only be a good thing for the club and the atmosphere on match days. Loud, passionate, colourful and wholly anti-violence as well as a willingness to celebrate the diversity of the city and fanbase should be seen as it is, an overwhelming positive for LCFC and our outside image. We want Filbert Way to be a tough place to come, and the atmosphere generated by the home fans is a big part of that. Right now, our stadium is about as intimidating as a gentle game of bowls on a Sunday afternoon. The only political affiliation we have is that of anti-racism. That's it, we don't want to be an exclusive group for all the Leicester lefties, just an Ultra group for all those who buy into our mentality, irrespective of their background. We don't want to influence the way the club is run either as some Ultra groups do on the continent. All we ask for is a bit of tolerance towards our ideals, letting us stand as L and K already do and letting us bring in some plastic poles to wave our flags, which we have already assured the club will not impede the enjoyment for other fans not in our group. It's not as if we're asking for the Kop to be renamed Curva Sud so we can bring in 2000 flares and smokebombs every Saturday. Still, we can do this even in the face of this setback. The Holmesdale Fanatics encountered similar resistance and won their battle in the end. We will win ours and the club will, like Palace, wonder what all the fuss was about.
haraven Posted 27 July 2010 Posted 27 July 2010 Seriously do not understand why this issue has attracted so many negative knobs or piss takers [who are fellow city fans]. I expect it from other clubs supporters but this mystifies me. Fair enough, taking flares in is a no-no but flags? They will take our money as long as we do as we're told. We can have a good time but only as specified by the club. Anyone would think that a forward looking club or business would at least entertain the idea that an all singing and jumping set of supporters can only be a positive thing. . Then there is the 'Ultra' tag issue. Anyone who has spent a little time looking through these posts, or facebook, or the Fosse Boys website will very quickly see that the members are not facscist hooligans on a rampage. In fact it's the exact opposite and comprises all ages, colours/creeds of Leicester city fans who want to support in a more vocal and celebratory way.The Ultras title is an adapted version of the Continental style of support and is anti facist,anti hooligan and anti moron. It's the Ultra style of supporting during the match, not politics that we are interested in. Do the club think we are going to try and influence club decisions through some sort of Mafia style organisation. That is laughable if true. If we do get this thing going in a positive and sensible way it is us who will be remembered by our players when we've cheered them on win or lose, who'll be remembered by our rival fans because of the atmosphere we create, and who will be applauded and praised by the club and chairman for being "the best fans in the country" with no help from them whatsoever. I second that. Here (Norwegian Premiership) we can normally bring flags, banners, and the tifo-units normally can have a field day if they plan ahead with the club. Generally are these fans gathered in a block where everyone wants to stand, and standing is fine - no problem. They can bring drums as well if they choose to, but of course no flares or something that can cause a fire or burns. There have been episodes of this happening, but normally guards act on who the culprit was instead of punishing the whole singing choir. There are of course perhaps mroe guards watching this section, but also the supporters have "guards" inside the group who has the authority to control any "rabid" supporters among themselves.¨ An example of such crowd control follows; I was on a match between Rosenborg (my team here) versus Vålerenga. It was an away match for us, now Vålerenga has a bunch of kids called the "mini-clan" that sits just across from the away supporters. They sing their songs all they can, and normally direct them towards the away fans. Normally chants of their clubs name, and a little "boo Rosenborg"...Now we are talking kids here, 7-10 year olds, and most away fans applaud their efforts with a smile. Last time around a few of the Rosenborg fans started singing quite rowdy and scary songs towards these kids - it did not last long before a few of the Rosenborg support leaders quickly told them off and let them focus on the game. The whole episde ended with a universal hooray for the kids before we focused on the Vålerenga grown up supporters and started chanting the regular chants and songs. My point with this tirade is that if let's say the Ultras has leaders who can influence their followers in a good way, and let people have fun singing, chanting, STANDING and jumping with flags behind them or in front of them - that does not block the view of others, this can only be a positive thing! Yes there will always be muppets and troublemakers here as well, but they are around elsewhere anyways, so stop blaming the whole group, and rather try this instead of shooting it down before it gets a chance. England was known for it's many stadiums with great atmospheres, unfortunately we lost a lot of that atmosphere when we left Filbert Street, and I feel like I am going to Disney World on a few of the other UK stadiums these days. I applaud the efforts of LCFC-ARAB and the ultras and hope they get the green light - this can only be a positive for LCFC.
lcfc"weasel" Posted 27 July 2010 Posted 27 July 2010 Why has the song video been removed from youtube?
purpleronnie Posted 27 July 2010 Posted 27 July 2010 Its just we are such sticklers for safety and if theres a 000000000000.1% of something happening we will completely go over the top to ensure it wont happen. There is no common sense at all. Thats what I've noticed when I watched matches abroad and not just football matches but society in general, other countries will approach problems with common sense in england there's none.
Narborough_fox Posted 27 July 2010 Posted 27 July 2010 Its just we are such sticklers for safety and if theres a 000000000000.1% of something happening we will completely go over the top to ensure it wont happen. This. Even though 0.1 would of been easier to post
haraven Posted 27 July 2010 Posted 27 July 2010 This. Even though 0.1 would of been easier to post I'd rather have you Brits focus on the fact that you are driving on the wrong side of the road opposed to the rest of the world than a few chants. Bound to kill more foreigners in UK and Brits abroad than a tifo and some flags...
Tommy G Posted 27 July 2010 Posted 27 July 2010 Has anyone thought about the possibility of Insurance? Maybe that is why the club isn't bowled over by the idea. If someone got a plastic pole through their eye ball then I'm sure they would be onto the club in no time claiming a wad of cash for loss of eye sight. I'm no Lawyer but I guss this is how it works. the club not having a pot to piss in it seems, they could hardly aford this! Maybe they would have to alter their insurance, or employ more police. I know people will get on their high horse and claim the group isn't about violence, but the club will automatically see it that way I'm afraid with the name Ultra - whether this is wrong or right is another matter. It is probably more hassle than it's worth for the club so that's why they have rejected the idea. I agree the atmosphere isn't great but if they have rejected the idea then it will take a lot of huffing and puffing from a lot of people to make people change their minds. Simple as that. Maybe someone who is trained in inception could help here Good luck - you'll need it
1964FOX Posted 27 July 2010 Posted 27 July 2010 Ok it's mentioned that the news has been leaked out on another forum. Can you tell us which forum and how reliable is the info. I will personally be waiting for the statement from the organisers to find out what the plan is to move this forward.
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