lcfcsnow Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 Im amazed to read Mandaric is still trying to keep him, I thought it was past that. It most likely is, he said the same thing when the Megson to Bolton news came about.
Babylon Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 That article scared me, I just can't get my head around why so many dreadful, failed managers are rumoured. Coleman, Dowie, Ince, Southgate? It's depressing if that's the best we can get. It always happens, no point in reading anything into the usual suspects who get chucked about.
SMX11 Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 I'd laugh if this was just a scheme of Pearson to test Milan Mandarics will to keep him. But I think I may be clutching at straws
Guest Mee-9 Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 I'd laugh if this was just a scheme of Pearson to test Milan Mandarics will to keep him. But I think I may be clutching at straws Was just saying to my bro, Wouldn't it be a laugh if Pearson was sitting on a beach in Marbella, and didn't have a clue what was happening
Webbo Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 What ever compensation we get hope the Hull pay it up front. If they do go into administration we may end up getting gypped for the poultry amount we're getting anyway.
Edmund Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 Just said on East Midlands today that Mandaric has told them within the last hour that Pearson is a gonner.
MC Prussian Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 IanStringerBBC Just spoke to Milan Mandarich "I'm working tirelessly to keep Nigel Pearson at LCFC, the decision is his and only his, I fear it's too late" It's like a deathbed candidate classic. Hey, if there's no news update by today, say 8pm the latest, Nigel Pearson is not going to move to (shudder) Hull, right?
buzzy Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 Several names have been linked to the KC Stadium hot seat, including Eddie Howe, Paul Hart, Alan Curbishley, Gary Speed and Tony Mowbray. And to smooth over a turbulent transition between divisions, Pearson said the new boss would possess plenty of experience. He added: "We're after somebody who's got a good track record in this division, someone with integrity and honesty this is the statement adam pearson made. i just feel all those managers apart from eddie howe, gary speed have turned them down. the other 2 have no experince of the championship managerment.what i don't understand is np as ony 1 and half years experience in the championship
Brainy Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 My link page is said to be updated a few minutes ago, although I cant really see any changes to what was written on there over the weekend.
buzzy Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 if he wants to go i think mm should just let him go know not wednesday as stated on bbc leicester website. mm then needs to get a new manager as soon as possible so pre season can start a fresh with new man and staff
MC Prussian Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 My link page is said to be updated a few minutes ago, although I cant really see any changes to what was written on there over the weekend. Basically, the title that leads to the article says something different than the article itself. The lead mentions something along the line of "Pearson poised to take on the Hull City job", whereas the article then states that "Hull City are poised to sign Pearson". Spot the difference. Might be a minor one in text terms, but it's certainly major in terms of proceedings.
originallambrettaman Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 What ever compensation we get hope the Hull pay it up front. If they do go into administration we may end up getting gypped for the poultry amount we're getting anyway. We're not going to go into administration and football debts are protected by FA rules anyway, so you'd get paid in full even if we did. Word here is that he's been given £1.5-2m a year wage budget to use up to strengthen ahead of next season, today's names in the frame are Jay Simpson of Arsenal and Kalu Uche of AlmerÃa.
Fox92 Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 if he wants to go i think mm should just let him go know not wednesday as stated on bbc leicester website. mm then needs to get a new manager as soon as possible so pre season can start a fresh with new man and staff Too right, there is no point in keeping a person at the club who doesn't want to be there - player or manager.
pooleyLCFC Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 If we get Ian Dowie i am demanding a refund for my season ticket
Guest Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 If we get Ian Dowie i am demanding a refund for my season ticket On grounds of unexpected ugliness?
Guest Mee-9 Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 I thought that Nigel would be unveiled as the manager today, then I got told Tuesday, now it's Wednesday. Theres something that can't be agreed on.
marbelladave Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 Am I the only one not that fussed by him leaving? Anyone who has read my posts and match reports throughout the season will know that I am not one of Pearson's biggest fans. I have been critical of what I term his 'matchday skills', that is the selection, set up and tactics for each game. I have said many times over the last year or so how I feel our set up has been wrong, how we have been too negative and how we are rarely able to change a game by making a tactical change or substitution. This has limited our progress in my view and with the hugely positive 'promotion bounce' that we had last season now gone I always thought next season would be tough. A new more adventurous manager might just make the difference. I am well aware that Pearson has helped restructure the playing side of our club, but how much of that is down to him personally I do not know. I think it important that the structures that have helped the club move forward are kept in place and I can see no reason, Steve Walsh apart, why they should not be. There will be some changes in personnel but if the structures are solid then I think we can manage this. As for a new manager, everyone will have their own idea, but given the need to be careful with the cash I would suggest giving a good coach the chance to step up, someone like Steve Clarke would be top of my list.
martyn Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 Not at all, a manager who took us at our lowest point, turned the side around, made us proud again to be fans of Leicester City, exceeded all expectations and led us to the Play offs. I'll pay his taxi fare myself.
davieG Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 Am I the only one not that fussed by him leaving? Anyone who has read my posts and match reports throughout the season will know that I am not one of Pearson's biggest fans. I have been critical of what I term his 'matchday skills', that is the selection, set up and tactics for each game. I have said many times over the last year or so how I feel our set up has been wrong, how we have been too negative and how we are rarely able to change a game by making a tactical change or substitution. This has limited our progress in my view and with the hugely positive 'promotion bounce' that we had last season now gone I always thought next season would be tough. A new more adventurous manager might just make the difference. I am well aware that Pearson has helped restructure the playing side of our club, but how much of that is down to him personally I do not know. I think it important that the structures that have helped the club move forward are kept in place and I can see no reason, Steve Walsh apart, why they should not be. There will be some changes in personnel but if the structures are solid then I think we can manage this. As for a new manager, everyone will have their own idea, but given the need to be careful with the cash I would suggest giving a good coach the chance to step up, someone like Steve Clarke would be top of my list. The big problem is that having achieved a degree of stability we're now thrown back into the realms of the unknown. Those structures were the brainchild of a passing administration and are now at great risk of being thrown out by the new incumbent wanting to do things their own way. I also suspect it will be prone to considerable cost cutting. It seems pretty clear that the Milan/Pearson relation has finally reached a point of no return and I'd be surprised if it was just down to money for management and player wages. as said above I suspect cut's will be going deeper, for example Pearson has always wanted a reserve side and judging from announcements earlier in the season that was going to happen - something that now seems highly unlikely. There also has been a history of management interference of the football side by Mandaric and judging from the Pires story that hasn't stopped and makes you wonder how much further it goes. What of finding a replacement, it's all well and good highlighting Pearson's deficiencies but any replacement, which is likely to be some current unemployed manager will have their own and more - that's probably why their unemployed. you've then got the 'Mandaric' factor piss poor at spotting a decent manager and with loads of baggage, renowned for interfering so hardly likely to tempt the best even out of the dregs that he'll have to choose from. In the past he's overcome that by offering a decent wage packet but that looks less likely. Granted he has to run the club within the financial constraints but he's showed quite clearly with his, Hasslebank, Davids and Pires sagas that he's prepared to throw the money around when it suits him. after all LCFC is his toy why shouldn't he? Maybe because it's bound to piss off the managers he's employed to do the job with their own financial constraints. The thought of having to go though the whole management recruitment saga sends me into a deep depression because it's odds on he'll mess it up, it's what he does and at the end of it all he'll probably have wasted more money finding replacement than it would to have kept Pearson for 1 more year.
marbelladave Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 Not at all, a manager who took us at our lowest point, turned the side around, made us proud again to be fans of Leicester City, exceeded all expectations and led us to the Play offs. I'll pay his taxi fare myself. If I believed that everything good that has been achieved over the last two years is all due to Pearson and no-one else I would be more concerned. The Club has been completely restructured since the fall and whilst I would have preferred Pearson to stay I feel that if we can keep the new structure intact then we have a good chance of continuing our progress. Whilst I accept the truth of what you say in general terms, there are also key areas where Pearson has been less successful. There are clearly issues with some players and at times some of our play has been overly cautious, areas that can be improved on by a new manager. The Pearson years have given the club a strong base and I strongly believe that we can move on from this if we can find the right man.
davieG Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 If I believed that everything good that has been achieved over the last two years is all due to Pearson and no-one else I would be more concerned. The Club has been completely restructured since the fall and whilst I would have preferred Pearson to stay I feel that if we can keep the new structure intact then we have a good chance of continuing our progress. Whilst I accept the truth of what you say in general terms, there are also key areas where Pearson has been less successful. There are clearly issues with some players and at times some of our play has been overly cautious, areas that can be improved on by a new manager. The Pearson years have given the club a strong base and I strongly believe that we can move on from this if we can find the right man. That restructuring at least on the football side, which I presume is what you're talking about will have been down to Pearson with Shakespeare and Walsh both of whom are predicted to leave with Pearson and recruited by him and wouldn't be here if it were not for him.
doughnut Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 Am I the only one not that fussed by him leaving? Anyone who has read my posts and match reports throughout the season will know that I am not one of Pearson's biggest fans. I have been critical of what I term his 'matchday skills', that is the selection, set up and tactics for each game. I have said many times over the last year or so how I feel our set up has been wrong, how we have been too negative and how we are rarely able to change a game by making a tactical change or substitution. This has limited our progress in my view and with the hugely positive 'promotion bounce' that we had last season now gone I always thought next season would be tough. A new more adventurous manager might just make the difference. I am well aware that Pearson has helped restructure the playing side of our club, but how much of that is down to him personally I do not know. I think it important that the structures that have helped the club move forward are kept in place and I can see no reason, Steve Walsh apart, why they should not be. There will be some changes in personnel but if the structures are solid then I think we can manage this. As for a new manager, everyone will have their own idea, but given the need to be careful with the cash I would suggest giving a good coach the chance to step up, someone like Steve Clarke would be top of my list. No you are not the only one not that fussed. Yeah dont get me wrong the bloke as done a good job but i genuinely think pearson as taken as far as he can . Yeah losin Steve Walsh is a blow with his connections but im with you on the matchday tactics, substitutions and the way we started games towards end of last season. Not only did pearson go with the 4-5-1/4-3-3 system at home dont forget he also changed tactics in the away leg from 4-4-2 back to the 4-3-3 after cardiff scored the penalty with waghorn/ kermogant/ howard going up top and after that our performance dipped. Well done nigel for all you have done for us but if he does go we all move on, theres other good managers out there. When we did appoint pearson nobody knew he would be any good for us and who knows whoever we appoint could just be even better. If he wants to go then so be it, the club moves on, the fans move on. Im still hopeful of wembley 2011 play off final with the foxes
marbelladave Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 The big problem is that having achieved a degree of stability we're now thrown back into the realms of the unknown. Those structures were the brainchild of a passing administration and are now at great risk of being thrown out by the new incumbent wanting to do things their own way. I also suspect it will be prone to considerable cost cutting. It seems pretty clear that the Milan/Pearson relation has finally reached a point of no return and I'd be surprised if it was just down to money for management and player wages. as said above I suspect cut's will be going deeper, for example Pearson has always wanted a reserve side and judging from announcements earlier in the season that was going to happen - something that now seems highly unlikely. There also has been a history of management interference of the football side by Mandaric and judging from the Pires story that hasn't stopped and makes you wonder how much further it goes. What of finding a replacement, it's all well and good highlighting Pearson's deficiencies but any replacement, which is likely to be some current unemployed manager will have their own and more - that's probably why their unemployed. you've then got the 'Mandaric' factor piss poor at spotting a decent manager and with loads of baggage, renowned for interfering so hardly likely to tempt the best even out of the dregs that he'll have to choose from. In the past he's overcome that by offering a decent wage packet but that looks less likely. Granted he has to run the club within the financial constraints but he's showed quite clearly with his, Hasslebank, Davids and Pires sagas that he's prepared to throw the money around when it suits him. after all LCFC is his toy why shouldn't he? Maybe because it's bound to piss off the managers he's employed to do the job with their own financial constraints. The thought of having to go though the whole management recruitment saga sends me into a deep depression because it's odds on he'll mess it up, it's what he does and at the end of it all he'll probably have wasted more money finding replacement than it would to have kept Pearson for 1 more year. I totally understand your fears on the change that a new management team will bring which is why I think we have to be determined and keep as many of those structures in place as possible. If there are really substantial cuts to be made as you suggest then we would be unable to move forward whether Pearson stayed or not, a bigger issue than the manager I think. Mandaric's motives are difficult to understand, his 'interference' has invariably been detrimental to his clubs, yet he still does it... The choice of replacement is critical, which is why I feel an 'established' manager, especially one that we can afford, would be a bad choice, he will probably want to do things his way, breaking up the very structures we have worked so hard to achieve. Hence my view that we should be looking primarily for a coach rather than a manager.
Fox92 Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 If we get Ian Dowie i am demanding a refund for my season ticket Yep, we've said exactly the same. If Pearson leaves, he leaves. You can't keep someone at a club that doesn't want to be here. All that he's done though, his job is not complete and I'll be very dissapointed with the man if he leaves.
marbelladave Posted 28 June 2010 Posted 28 June 2010 That restructuring at least on the football side, which I presume is what you're talking about will have been down to Pearson with Shakespeare and Walsh both of whom are predicted to leave with Pearson and recruited by him and wouldn't be here if it were not for him. If that is all true then I am more worried... Particularly if it proves impossible to maintain our organisation without them. I would assume that most of the personnel who run the 'backroom' would stay although I know scouting and recruitment will take a hit if, as predicted, we lose Steve Walsh. I just hope that enough good people remain to carry on the good work. As I have said elsewhere I feel that we need a young coach who can be helped to do (some) things 'our way' rather than an established manager determined to do things his way.
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