purpleronnie Posted 18 July 2012 Posted 18 July 2012 Don't remake it then. They want it for an american audience so obviously they'll change some things.
Guest ttfn Posted 18 July 2012 Posted 18 July 2012 They want it for an american audience so obviously they'll change some things. See above. I really resent the fact that the American market demands to be spoon-fed their own version of exactly the same programme. That said, the Office (USA) started off as virtually a scene-for-scene remake and then developed a life of its own.
acooling08 Posted 18 July 2012 Posted 18 July 2012 Wow they have actually stolen whole scenes from the UK version!! Shockingly bad!
Captain... Posted 18 July 2012 Posted 18 July 2012 Cult british humour, lost in translation, who would have thunk it. What the fvck is a delivery bag, it is a briefcase, that is why his nickname is briefcase (willy puller), what the fvck was the deal with a curtain over the toilet door. It doesn't work, Skins didn't work, Shameless didn't work, The Office didn't work until it became something else, and even then it is not a patch on the UK one. Same with some of the awful american re-makes of really good European and Asian films. It does't work for us because the originals were aimed at us and our experiences, I don't know if americans will get the same from it we did, that depends on the writing really and it looks like they have just nicked it from the UK version, so it will be too English to appeal to the US, too americanised to appeal to anyone who has seen the original, will probably bomb, but at least they didn't have to use any brain power in making it, just wasted a load of money on it.
z-layrex Posted 19 July 2012 Posted 19 July 2012 Why do they have to dumb so many things down for the USA? The American version of The Office was actually far better and clever than the British original and that's been a gigantic success all over the world.
Raw Dykes Posted 19 July 2012 Posted 19 July 2012 Why do they have to dumb so many things down for the USA? The American version of The Office was actually far better and clever than the British original and that's been a gigantic success all over the world. It really isn't. It's ok, but it isn't a patch on the original, which was truly genius. The American remake has been a huge success globally, but that's mainly due to budget, marketing and quantity (far more episodes of it made). I'm interested to hear why you think the remake could be cleverer than the original. I think the original will be remembered for far longer than the remake.
Captain... Posted 19 July 2012 Posted 19 July 2012 It really isn't. It's ok, but it isn't a patch on the original, which was truly genius. The American remake has been a huge success globally, but that's mainly due to budget, marketing and quantity (far more episodes of it made). I'm interested to hear why you think the remake could be cleverer than the original. I think the original will be remembered for far longer than the remake. ...and the dumbing down of the humour/making it more accessible, from what I have seen of the later versions of the US one, it is just a sitcom without a laughter track and apart from a few mockumentary style interviews it has lost all sense of it being a fly on the wall docu, in my opinion.
foxfanazer Posted 19 July 2012 Posted 19 July 2012 Will there be a series 4 of the UK version? Don't think there will mate, may well be a couple of special episodes
LCFC FOX Posted 19 July 2012 Posted 19 July 2012 Don't think there will mate, may well be a couple of special episodes That's a shame. I did read somewhere that there mite. But if they make a couple more Films it would be decent.
Raw Dykes Posted 19 July 2012 Posted 19 July 2012 ...and the dumbing down of the humour/making it more accessible, from what I have seen of the later versions of the US one, it is just a sitcom without a laughter track and apart from a few mockumentary style interviews it has lost all sense of it being a fly on the wall docu, in my opinion. Exactly! I overlooked that. The American remake is certainly a more broad humour show than the original. I'm sure Hi-De-Hi or On The Buses would appeal to more people around the world than Brass Eye or 15 Storeys High, but as to which is better or cleverer, there's no contest if you ask me. I think, as Brits, we can pride ourselves on having a unique sense of humour. It's often lost in translation when others try to copy it. Some would even say a superior sense of humour to the rest of the world. You only have to look at what passes as comedy on the continent to see evidence of this. You might say that's an arrogant point of view, and don't get me wrong - there's plenty of American comedy that I love, but when I think of ground-breaking comedy - acts or shows that did something completely new (Monty Python, Reeves & Mortimer, Chris Morris, The Office, etc.) - I can't think of very many that weren't English.
Captain... Posted 19 July 2012 Posted 19 July 2012 Exactly! I overlooked that. The American remake is certainly a more broad humour show than the original. I'm sure Hi-De-Hi or On The Buses would appeal to more people around the world than Brass Eye or 15 Storeys High, but as to which is better or cleverer, there's no contest if you ask me. I think, as Brits, we can pride ourselves on having a unique sense of humour. It's often lost in translation when others try to copy it. Some would even say a superior sense of humour to the rest of the world. You only have to look at what passes as comedy on the continent to see evidence of this. You might say that's an arrogant point of view, and don't get me wrong - there's plenty of American comedy that I love, but when I think of ground-breaking comedy - acts or shows that did something completely new (Monty Python, Reeves & Mortimer, Chris Morris, The Office, etc.) - I can't think of very many that weren't English. I think we have the BBC to thank for a lot of that, I know the inbetweeners was channel 4, but the BBC has been truly independent and groundbreaking in its programming, mainly because it doesn't have sponsors to bow down to, and the ratings and history to be able to take a chance on something like The Office, or something very risky in its subject matter like the Day Today which was a precursor to Brass Eye, but that would never have been picked up channel 4 without the success of the Day Today, or the various Chris Morris comedy vehicles on BBC radio.. Americans are so obsessed by ratings that formulaic shows are a much better prospect than something risky, and also they don't want to upset the Christian far right in America, they really do hold way too much sway. Of course there is ground breaking american comedy, such as Seinfeld was, Curb your enthusiasm and Arrested Development, not to mention their animated output we have nothing in the UK that can compare to the Simpsons, South Park, King of the Hill and of course your favourite Family Guy. Lets not forget the mockumentary was not an original idea by Gervais and co, it was used to great success in the american movies Spinal Tap, a Mighty Wind and Best in Show (all written or co-written by Chris Guest who does have British heritage, but was born in the states). I do think our humour is unique, but mainly because of the environment in which it has been allowed to flourish, I wouldn't say it is better or smarter, just very, very, British.
StanSP Posted 19 July 2012 Posted 19 July 2012 What the fvck have they done?! Atrociously bad. Apparently there is a 4th series on our shores, but minus 1 main character.
Guest Bilo Posted 19 July 2012 Posted 19 July 2012 What the fvck have they done?! Atrociously bad. Apparently there is a 4th series on our shores, but minus 1 main character. James Buckley (Jay) has hinted a fourth series may start with a funeral for one of the main characters.
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 19 July 2012 Posted 19 July 2012 They should leave the British one. Third series was passable at best but the film was actually really good, perfect way to cap everything off as well.
Guest Bilo Posted 19 July 2012 Posted 19 July 2012 I wouldn't necessarily want a full fourth series, especially with one of the characters missing, but a couple of specials perhaps? No objections to that.
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