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Official Statement On the OS re Fosse Boys

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If your every contact/statement is to be reduced to a committee decision and agreement, then sadly i feel the FB's will be a shortlived attempt.

Personally I'd rather they made a thought out statement rather than the some of the misleading posts we got at the start.

Posted

Disapointed,

Already the club has effectively silenced the Fosse Boys, i dont require a professional report from the meeting, i would like to hear what happened and how the FB's reps felt about it.

If your every contact/statement is to be reduced to a committee decision and agreement, then sadly i feel the FB's will be a shortlived attempt.

Football is an emotional game, supporting a team is emotional (especially leicester).

Good luck Fosse Boys, i fear they have got you on the ropes. :(

In the past, the group has been criticised for a lack of clarity, and therefore steps have been taken in order to ensure that the founding members are all singing from the same hymn sheet.

There's no point going into detail about the meeting until the group have had chance to discuss the merits of what was said and what we're going to do about future plans for the group.

I have repeatedly said that the group has not been silenced by the Club.

Personally I'd rather they made a thought out statement rather than the some of the misleading posts we got at the start.

:appl:

Posted

I agree that accuracy is required, however, the meeting was held on Friday... we have heard nothing (effectively) since then, and wont until at least wednesday = silenced.

Please dont misunderstand me, im fully supportive of the FB's and dont want inacurate or misleading info put out...but i also do not want a "spin doctor, club approved" version. why does this require a meeting and agreement from all...just the facts ma-am :)

Posted

I agree that accuracy is required, however, the meeting was held on Friday... we have heard nothing (effectively) since then, and wont until at least wednesday = silenced.

Please dont misunderstand me, im fully supportive of the FB's and dont want inacurate or misleading info put out...but i also do not want a "spin doctor, club approved" version. why does this require a meeting and agreement from all...just the facts ma-am :)

Wednesday is the first realistic time that the group have had the chance to get together due to other commitments.

The group will release information relating to exactly what was said in the meeting and its future plans in a statement to be released after a definitive way forward has been agreed by members of the group. We need time to clarify exactly what was said by all parties involved with the meeting in order to ensure there is no confusion within our supporters.

Posted

Disapointed,

Already the club has effectively silenced the Fosse Boys, i dont require a professional report from the meeting, i would like to hear what happened and how the FB's reps felt about it.

If your every contact/statement is to be reduced to a committee decision and agreement, then sadly i feel the FB's will be a shortlived attempt.

Football is an emotional game, supporting a team is emotional (especially leicester).

Good luck Fosse Boys, i fear they have got you on the ropes. :(

This is true but dealing with this situation and LCFC requires a degree of patience, common-sense, discretion, integrity, negotiating skills and tenacity with a pinch of cunning thrown in.

Frankly I don't think the security down at LCFC have emotions and are certainly not interested in them other than thinking it's what causes them all their trouble so letting emotions get in the way they'll likely as not end up with nothing or at best looking stupid. As I said in previous post if they need our support again then that's when those in support can show some emotion.

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The Fosse Boys are following the correct path by taking a considered approach before posting anything on message boards after the meeting.

In today's world, everybody wants instant responses, and the Trust has been criticised in the past in the same way some are complaining about a lack of comment by the Fosse Boys now, the leaders of an organisation need time to sit down & agree the best approach.

The Trust is offering support to the Fosse Boys and giving advice about handling the club when asked, we have also been in regular contact with the FSF about the situation.

The Trust itself is a member of the FSF and our association with the Stand Up, Sit Down goes back to 2005 when we organised an open meeting with SUSD, fans who wanted to stand & the club.

We therefore have the official notes from the FSF of last Friday's meeting & fully understand why the Fosse Boys need to meet and agree their approach going forwards

Posted

The Fosse Boys are following the correct path by taking a considered approach before posting anything on message boards after the meeting.

In today's world, everybody wants instant responses, and the Trust has been criticised in the past in the same way some are complaining about a lack of comment by the Fosse Boys now, the leaders of an organisation need time to sit down & agree the best approach.

The Trust is offering support to the Fosse Boys and giving advice about handling the club when asked, we have also been in regular contact with the FSF about the situation.

The Trust itself is a member of the FSF and our association with the Stand Up, Sit Down goes back to 2005 when we organised an open meeting with SUSD, fans who wanted to stand & the club.

We therefore have the official notes from the FSF of last Friday's meeting & fully understand why the Fosse Boys need to meet and agree their approach going forwards

This sums it up. Let the Fosse Boys sit down and figure out how they are to respond to the meeting representatives for the group had with the club. I think we can wait a few days if the outcome many of us wants is on the "closer" horizon.

This post from Foxes Trust underlines that there are things to be discussed. Sometimes considering the options and discussing internally is the best option rather than going into full thrust berserker mode. I can patiently wait a few more days to hear from both the Fosse Boys and the club how they are to go about treating the clubs fans in a proper manner.

Posted

The Fosse Boys are following the correct path by taking a considered approach before posting anything on message boards after the meeting.

In today's world, everybody wants instant responses, and the Trust has been criticised in the past in the same way some are complaining about a lack of comment by the Fosse Boys now, the leaders of an organisation need time to sit down & agree the best approach.

The Trust is offering support to the Fosse Boys and giving advice about handling the club when asked, we have also been in regular contact with the FSF about the situation.

The Trust itself is a member of the FSF and our association with the Stand Up, Sit Down goes back to 2005 when we organised an open meeting with SUSD, fans who wanted to stand & the club.

We therefore have the official notes from the FSF of last Friday's meeting & fully understand why the Fosse Boys need to meet and agree their approach going forwards

The meeting was friday, today is monday. Thats only 'instant' by British rail standards.....

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The meeting was friday, today is monday. Thats only 'instant' by British rail standards.....

But the lads have said, due to work commitments, that Wednesday is the most realistic meeting date.

It's important that the group come to an agreed course of action for the future so as to avoid any confusion and disorganisation, the only way that the Fosse Boys are going to go forward is to organise ourselves properly and sing from the same hymn sheet. Five days for a proper public statement as to the success of the meeting and the group's further plans is acceptable in my opinion, especially with the amount of attention that has been poured onto the group locally and nationally. It's important that the group makes the right moves and makes the media attention work for us rather than against us.

Posted

But the lads have said, due to work commitments, that Wednesday is the most realistic meeting date.

It's important that the group come to an agreed course of action for the future so as to avoid any confusion and disorganisation, the only way that the Fosse Boys are going to go forward is to organise ourselves properly and sing from the same hymn sheet. Five days for a proper public statement as to the success of the meeting and the group's further plans is acceptable in my opinion, especially with the amount of attention that has been poured onto the group locally and nationally. It's important that the group makes the right moves and makes the media attention work for us rather than against us.

im not sure if i have been misunderstood, but i have never said i wanted a clear and immediate explanation of what they plan on doing....

All i thought that would be reasonable is if we are told what was actually said at the meeting.. they can take as long as is needed to work out what to do next. its very important to get it right ,

Posted

im not sure if i have been misunderstood, but i have never said i wanted a clear and immediate explanation of what they plan on doing....

All i thought that would be reasonable is if we are told what was actually said at the meeting.. they can take as long as is needed to work out what to do next. its very important to get it right ,

That's a fair point, but a full and detailed synopsis of how the meeting went and what was said will come with the future plans for the group. I can understand why you're disappointed not to have seen a report of the meeting, but it is coming soon. I was initially disappointed not to have seen anything on the forum over the weekend, but on reflection I can see why nothing was posted.

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Posted

That's a fair point, but a full and detailed synopsis of how the meeting went and what was said will come with the future plans for the group. I can understand why you're disappointed not to have seen a report of the meeting, but it is coming soon. I was initially disappointed not to have seen anything on the forum over the weekend, but on reflection I can see why nothing was posted.

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The FSF rep has given a written copy of the meeting to the supporters trust ( as mentioned by themselves earlier) so i dont see what the delay is in releasing them...

If they take too long then people will lose intrest, media outlets will move on to other subjects.

As far as the media is concerned, they have peoples interest... they need to release the minutes of the meeting whilst the media are still on their side whilst it is still fresh on peoples mind and public opinion/ reputation with the public is important to the club.

Posted

A matchday steward who I work with in the week today said 'they will be moved to L block whether they like it or not'

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A matchday steward who I work with in the week today said 'they will be moved to L block whether they like it or not'

its because of statements like this the Fosse boys need to be keeping peoples intrest.. so that they, along with public opinion and public pressure can be a force to challenge the club and put the pressure back on them.,

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its because of statements like this the Fosse boys need to be keeping peoples intrest.. so that they, along with public opinion and public pressure can be a force to challenge the club and put the pressure back on them.,

Im not saying thats deffinately whats happening im just passing on what was told to me.

Posted

Section the ****ers that want to sit there quietly all game (preferably at the Tigers ground), and let those that want to create the atmosphere go where they want to.

Posted

my concern remains that, by stealth, the club are silencing the Fosse Boys.

I accept that as an informal group, their information and comments may be imperfect. The LAST thing i would like is for the FB's to become another organised group who have to follow the clubs rules and abide by their expectations.

We know that the clubs rules and requirements are at odds with the FB's (and many other supporters) and the club will be working to have the group controlled, this starts with managing what information is given out.. by whom and how much.

"Big brother is watching you"

The LCFC Ministry of Truth is involved with news media, entertainment, the fine arts and educational books. Its purpose is to rewrite history and change the facts to fit clubs doctrine for propaganda effect. For example, if Hoos makes a prediction that turns out to be wrong, the employees of the LCFC Ministry of Truth go back and rewrite the prediction so that any prediction Hoos previously made is accurate. This is the "how" of the Ministry of Truth's existence. Within the novel Orwell elaborates that the deeper reason for its existence is to maintain the illusion that the club is absolute. It cannot ever seem to change its mind (if, for instance, they perform one of their constant changes regarding enemies during war) or make a mistake (firing an official or making a grossly misjudged supply prediction), for that would imply weakness and to maintain power the club must seem eternally right and strong.

:thumbup::)

edit, sorry, ill let it go now :)

Posted

A matchday steward who I work with in the week today said 'they will be moved to L block whether they like it or not'

Don't want to disrespect your friend but I very much doubt the senior management at the club would discuss the outcome of a meeting with them.

Posted

Don't want to disrespect your friend but I very much doubt the senior management at the club would discuss the outcome of a meeting with them.

Oh yeah I know, they was talking about the game where people were refused entry and rekons that will carry on and theyll be forced to move to L1, again I dont know what they get told etc im just passing on what was said to me.

Oh and by the way I was the lad infront of you at Leeds incase you didnt see me say in the Leeds post match thread.

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Oh yeah I know, they was talking about the game where people were refused entry and rekons that will carry on and theyll be forced to move to L1, again I dont know what they get told etc im just passing on what was said to me.

Oh and by the way I was the lad infront of you at Leeds incase you didnt see me say in the Leeds post match thread

Fair play, but I will certainly not be moving to L block and I will be wearing my Fosse Boys scarf at the next home match by the way I have written to the club as requested by the Leeds stewards on the night about the home fans being allowed to stand and guess what they have ignored me. Hopefully if you go to the Leeds league game we can have another go at standing again.

Posted

Fair play, but I will certainly not be moving to L block and I will be wearing my Fosse Boys scarf at the next home match by the way I have written to the club as requested by the Leeds stewards on the night about the home fans being allowed to stand and guess what they have ignored me. Hopefully if you go to the Leeds league game we can have another go at standing again.

Yeah ill be there, they were a right pain hopefully we'll be back in the corner next time so we'll hopefully have different stewards, Ive always stood at Lids before. Not surprised in the slightest they ignored you.

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Yeah ill be there, they were a right pain hopefully we'll be back in the corner next time so we'll hopefully have different stewards, Ive always stood at Lids before. Not surprised in the slightest they ignored you.

I will make the same challenge, they will say I will have to E-mail, but what will they say when I say I did and your managers ignored me

- Probably 'it's time to leave the ground now sir'

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