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Very few people, and none in their right mind, are saying he is shit, just not good enough for a team with aspirations of a promotion push.

I have given my views many times but suffice it to say that I feel he is poor going forward as he spends too much time on the ball, telegraphs his passes and is frightened to get into the box. Similarly in defence he is poor at closing down and his tackling is hit and miss with too many fouls.

I have also pointed out that he had one of his best games against Preston and on that basis should be considered for the Barnsley game. In addition I like his feisty attitude and combativeness, even if it is no more than 'bluster' at times.

Abe despite his issues. has already shown that he is 'technically' a far better player than Wellens in all respects, it is just the adjustment to English football at this level that is the issue, we should and probably are, working hard on this.

I believe in the medium term a central partnership of Abe and King is where we should be aiming with a more creative player just in front of then, whether Gallagher or Moussa can be that player remains to be seen, otherwise it's time for Sven to get on the phone!

Wellens was good enough in last year's promotion push! Abe was admittedly improved against Preston but I don't know how you can conclude that he is technically better than Wellens in all respects, based on his performances to date. Abe has been a peripheral figure. People notice Wellens because he is involved in most of the open play and some only remember his mistakes, not his good passes. City have scored 17 league goals; Wellens has assisted on 4 of these, yet you want to drop him!

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One thing I've learnt from this thread is to NEVER start a discussion on here EVER AGAIN! :ph34r:

:D

If it's on racism, religion, conspiracy theories or Ian Ormondroyd it always ends up like this.

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How can anyone say Wellens is shit?

He is one of the best midfielders we've had in a few years, easily.

He is quality at the job he does, winning the ball and laying it off, yes some of the balls he tries to play are abit OTT sometimes but sometimes they work.

He's had a few bad games, like everyone at the club. But he's had hell of a lot more good games than bad ones.

And in a way, I kind of agree what he's saying, he's basically saying that we have a good bunch of lads who get along and don't want no 'footballing superstar' who will more than likely be abit big headed to come in and disrupt that. And I don't think he was having a dig at Yuki, Vitor or Moreno, I think he was just saying it has been abit harder for them to settle.

Agree with that.

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Wellens was good enough in last year's promotion push! Abe was admittedly improved against Preston but I don't know how you can conclude that he is technically better than Wellens in all respects, based on his performances to date. Abe has been a peripheral figure. People notice Wellens because he is involved in most of the open play and some only remember his mistakes, not his good passes. City have scored 17 league goals; Wellens has assisted on 4 of these, yet you want to drop him!

I agree.

It's not all 'Hollywood' in the Championship and I see Wellens as an essential cog in our team.

I certainly wouldn't be trusting Abe with that roll at the moment.

I really dont know why but there seems to be a group of fans who have a downer on Wellens whatever he does.

I bet Pearson would take him in a flash.

Players of his elk are a must have in any team, even Barca need someone to sit in and gel it all together.

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I agree.

It's not all 'Hollywood' in the Championship and I see Wellens as an essential cog in our team.

I certainly wouldn't be trusting Abe with that roll at the moment.

I really dont know why but there seems to be a group of fans who have a downer on Wellens whatever he does.

I bet Pearson would take him in a flash.

Players of his elk are a must have in any team, even Barca need someone to sit in and gel it all together.

Ooer, watch it with comparing Wellens to Xavi.

Xavi plays football, Richie scarifies grass. :ph34r:

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Dont come here "Mr class foreign international forward " weve got big steve howard here already !

Wellens is a paceless overweight moderate player who is trying to look after his own interests , get him gone

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Very few people, and none in their right mind, are saying he is shit, just not good enough for a team with aspirations of a promotion push.

I have given my views many times but suffice it to say that I feel he is poor going forward as he spends too much time on the ball, telegraphs his passes and is frightened to get into the box. Similarly in defence he is poor at closing down and his tackling is hit and miss with too many fouls.

I have also pointed out that he had one of his best games against Preston and on that basis should be considered for the Barnsley game. In addition I like his feisty attitude and combativeness, even if it is no more than 'bluster' at times.

Abe despite his issues. has already shown that he is 'technically' a far better player than Wellens in all respects, it is just the adjustment to English football at this level that is the issue, we should and probably are, working hard on this.

I believe in the medium term a central partnership of Abe and King is where we should be aiming with a more creative player just in front of then, whether Gallagher or Moussa can be that player remains to be seen, otherwise it's time for Sven to get on the phone!

Sorry mate but that's complete bollocks. Why are people so desperate for Abe to do well more than anyone else? Is it because he played at the World Cup? (without particularly making an impact). Is it because he's foreign? How can you say after about 2 full games that he is ''technically' a far better player than Wellens in all respects'? It is becoming very obvious that everybody wants Abe to do well and dislikes Wellens - there is some obvious bias going on here as actual performances are being ignored.

Wellens played most games last season so saying he's 'not good enough for a team with aspirations of a promotion push' is utter crap. Were we not in a promotion push last season?

Abe has done some decent things but he's also given the ball away a lot - something people seem to claim Wellens does.

Like I've said before, if King scored the amount of goals Wellens did, you'd realise that Wellens is a far better all round player. It's only because he doesn't shoot or score enough that you judge him as not good enough. Try not being so narrow minded. There is more to football than being quick and scoring goals. Wellens is great at spreading the play and picking the right pass. It's no good releasing the ball quickly if it's to the opposition.

All this Abe love is nothing but self-indulgent bullshit.

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:D

If it's on racism, religion, conspiracy theories or Ian Ormondroyd it always ends up like this.

did you know Ormandroyd blamed the government for closing down his 'white bhuddist footballers only' union?

we should start a new topic on it...

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Sorry mate but that's complete bollocks. Why are people so desperate for Abe to do well more than anyone else? Is it because he played at the World Cup? (without particularly making an impact). Is it because he's foreign? How can you say after about 2 full games that he is ''technically' a far better player than Wellens in all respects'? It is becoming very obvious that everybody wants Abe to do well and dislikes Wellens - there is some obvious bias going on here as actual performances are being ignored.

Wellens played most games last season so saying he's 'not good enough for a team with aspirations of a promotion push' is utter crap. Were we not in a promotion push last season?

Abe has done some decent things but he's also given the ball away a lot - something people seem to claim Wellens does.

Like I've said before, if King scored the amount of goals Wellens did, you'd realise that Wellens is a far better all round player. It's only because he doesn't shoot or score enough that you judge him as not good enough. Try not being so narrow minded. There is more to football than being quick and scoring goals. Wellens is great at spreading the play and picking the right pass. It's no good releasing the ball quickly if it's to the opposition.

All this Abe love is nothing but self-indulgent bullshit.

Whilst I don't believe Wellens to be the worst player at the club, I certainly feel that some do seriously believe the guy to be far more talented than he actually is. To compare King to Wellens is like comparing Alonso to Xavi. They are two very different players with completely different strengths and abilities. From the interview it would certainly appear that Wellens is concerned about is place in the team, and rightly so in my opinion. He's realised that Sven will make whatever changes are necessary in order to gain promotion. I think the majority of people will agree (including Wellens) that Abe appears to have a greater technical ability on the ball than Wellens, and his ability is wasted playing on the right side of Midfield. His touches buy him time on the ball, something which Wellens struggles to do. Add to this the fact that he seems to have great stamina; you can see why Wellens should be concerned. For me personally, Wellens tries/believes to be a better player than what he really is; often giving the ball away cheaply by trying a flick when a simple pass would suffice. In addition he seems to take the momentum out of counter attacks taking too long to pick out the runner, allowing teams to get men behind the ball and reorganise. If Wellens played a simple game, retrieving the ball and laying it off to those players like King who can unlock defences in a way that Lennon used to do with Izzet then I wouldn't have any issue with him retaining his place in the side as he has the right attributes to break up the oppositions play. My concern is that far too often he feels he should be the playmaker which isn't his strength. As we look to the future it would seem that Sven is most likely to go with a 4-4-2 formation meaning that only 2 of Wellens, King, Oakley, and Abe will be selected. Andy King currently picks himself, so that one spot is up for grabs between Wellens, Oakley and Abe. Out of those three, if your looking for a player who can form a footballing relationship with King which can grow with the team and cut it in the Premier League, Abe would seem to have all the attributes for this role, i.e.ability, fitness, age, intelligence,etc. Time will tell, but I think Wellens along with a lot of fans know what the eventual outcome will be.

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Whilst I don't believe Wellens to be the worst player at the club, I certainly feel that some do seriously believe the guy to be far more talented than he actually is. To compare King to Wellens is like comparing Alonso to Xavi. They are two very different players with completely different strengths and abilities. From the interview it would certainly appear that Wellens is concerned about is place in the team, and rightly so in my opinion. He's realised that Sven will make whatever changes are necessary in order to gain promotion. I think the majority of people will agree (including Wellens) that Abe appears to have a greater technical ability on the ball than Wellens, and his ability is wasted playing on the right side of Midfield. His touches buy him time on the ball, something which Wellens struggles to do. Add to this the fact that he seems to have great stamina; you can see why Wellens should be concerned. For me personally, Wellens tries/believes to be a better player than what he really is; often giving the ball away cheaply by trying a flick when a simple pass would suffice. In addition he seems to take the momentum out of counter attacks taking too long to pick out the runner, allowing teams to get men behind the ball and reorganise. If Wellens played a simple game, retrieving the ball and laying it off to those players like King who can unlock defences in a way that Lennon used to do with Izzet then I wouldn't have any issue with him retaining his place in the side as he has the right attributes to break up the oppositions play. My concern is that far too often he feels he should be the playmaker which isn't his strength. As we look to the future it would seem that Sven is most likely to go with a 4-4-2 formation meaning that only 2 of Wellens, King, Oakley, and Abe will be selected. Andy King currently picks himself, so that one spot is up for grabs between Wellens, Oakley and Abe. Out of those three, if your looking for a player who can form a footballing relationship with King which can grow with the team and cut it in the Premier League, Abe would seem to have all the attributes for this role, i.e.ability, fitness, age, intelligence,etc. Time will tell, but I think Wellens along with a lot of fans know what the eventual outcome will be.

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Whilst I don't believe Wellens to be the worst player at the club, I certainly feel that some do seriously believe the guy to be far more talented than he actually is. To compare King to Wellens is like comparing Alonso to Xavi. They are two very different players with completely different strengths and abilities. From the interview it would certainly appear that Wellens is concerned about is place in the team, and rightly so in my opinion. He's realised that Sven will make whatever changes are necessary in order to gain promotion. I think the majority of people will agree (including Wellens) that Abe appears to have a greater technical ability on the ball than Wellens, and his ability is wasted playing on the right side of Midfield. His touches buy him time on the ball, something which Wellens struggles to do. Add to this the fact that he seems to have great stamina; you can see why Wellens should be concerned. For me personally, Wellens tries/believes to be a better player than what he really is; often giving the ball away cheaply by trying a flick when a simple pass would suffice. In addition he seems to take the momentum out of counter attacks taking too long to pick out the runner, allowing teams to get men behind the ball and reorganise. If Wellens played a simple game, retrieving the ball and laying it off to those players like King who can unlock defences in a way that Lennon used to do with Izzet then I wouldn't have any issue with him retaining his place in the side as he has the right attributes to break up the oppositions play. My concern is that far too often he feels he should be the playmaker which isn't his strength. As we look to the future it would seem that Sven is most likely to go with a 4-4-2 formation meaning that only 2 of Wellens, King, Oakley, and Abe will be selected. Andy King currently picks himself, so that one spot is up for grabs between Wellens, Oakley and Abe. Out of those three, if your looking for a player who can form a footballing relationship with King which can grow with the team and cut it in the Premier League, Abe would seem to have all the attributes for this role, i.e.ability, fitness, age, intelligence,etc. Time will tell, but I think Wellens along with a lot of fans know what the eventual outcome will be.

I totally agree thumbsup.gif

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Whilst I don't believe Wellens to be the worst player at the club, I certainly feel that some do seriously believe the guy to be far more talented than he actually is. To compare King to Wellens is like comparing Alonso to Xavi. They are two very different players with completely different strengths and abilities. From the interview it would certainly appear that Wellens is concerned about is place in the team, and rightly so in my opinion. He's realised that Sven will make whatever changes are necessary in order to gain promotion. I think the majority of people will agree (including Wellens) that Abe appears to have a greater technical ability on the ball than Wellens, and his ability is wasted playing on the right side of Midfield. His touches buy him time on the ball, something which Wellens struggles to do. Add to this the fact that he seems to have great stamina; you can see why Wellens should be concerned. For me personally, Wellens tries/believes to be a better player than what he really is; often giving the ball away cheaply by trying a flick when a simple pass would suffice. In addition he seems to take the momentum out of counter attacks taking too long to pick out the runner, allowing teams to get men behind the ball and reorganise. If Wellens played a simple game, retrieving the ball and laying it off to those players like King who can unlock defences in a way that Lennon used to do with Izzet then I wouldn't have any issue with him retaining his place in the side as he has the right attributes to break up the oppositions play. My concern is that far too often he feels he should be the playmaker which isn't his strength. As we look to the future it would seem that Sven is most likely to go with a 4-4-2 formation meaning that only 2 of Wellens, King, Oakley, and Abe will be selected. Andy King currently picks himself, so that one spot is up for grabs between Wellens, Oakley and Abe. Out of those three, if your looking for a player who can form a footballing relationship with King which can grow with the team and cut it in the Premier League, Abe would seem to have all the attributes for this role, i.e.ability, fitness, age, intelligence,etc. Time will tell, but I think Wellens along with a lot of fans know what the eventual outcome will be.

This is a line used by many but holds little water. When does he do this? He tries to pick out difficult balls sometimes, but that's because they will open up the defence if he gets them right, which he often does.

Abe gave the ball away a few times on Saturday. But I'm sure after a grand total of one full league game you can can just bat that away. After all, he is the new messiah.

Technical ability is not everything - having a football brain is a massive part of football too. Wellens clearly has a great football brain, unlike those who criticise him. Those with a football brain can admire the way he plays football, because he can see and execute a pass that most of us wouldn't have seen. This is what makes him a very good player and for this moment, more useful to the team than Abe.

The way some of you talk would suggest Abe has set the world alight and won us games single handedly, when in truth he's had a couple of decent performances and created one goal.

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I really dont know why but there seems to be a group of fans who have a downer on Wellens whatever he does.

There seems to be a group of fans that love every player whatever they do

Weale, Morrison, Wellens, Howard, Fryatt, DJ, Waghorn.

Perhaps the truth is somewhere between the two.

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There seems to be a group of fans that love every player whatever they do

Weale, Morrison, Wellens, Howard, Fryatt, DJ, Waghorn.

Perhaps the truth is somewhere between the two.

Weale and Waghorn always get the benefit of the doubt, whereas Wellens and Fryatt will be slated no matter what.

The others are a mixed bag - i.e Howard's a marmite character.

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This is a line used by many but holds little water. When does he do this? He tries to pick out difficult balls sometimes, but that's because they will open up the defence if he gets them right, which he often does.

Abe gave the ball away a few times on Saturday. But I'm sure after a grand total of one full league game you can can just bat that away. After all, he is the new messiah.

Technical ability is not everything - having a football brain is a massive part of football too. Wellens clearly has a great football brain, unlike those who criticise him. Those with a football brain can admire the way he plays football, because he can see and execute a pass that most of us wouldn't have seen. This is what makes him a very good player and for this moment, more useful to the team than Abe.

The way some of you talk would suggest Abe has set the world alight and won us games single handedly, when in truth he's had a couple of decent performances and created one goal.

Are you having a laugh?!? Wellens - Football Brain? The guy is extremely limited in this department! I would suggest you put the tele on tonight and watch some real footballing brains in the Champions League before making sweeping statements suggesting Wellens has a great footballing brain.

If you actually read what I wrote you would see that I'm not adverse to the guy, just don't think he shows the same sort of class on the ball as Abe. Virtually every week Wellens gives the ball away cheaply trying to be a fancy dan around the edge of the oppositions box, when a simple pass to feet would create a goalscoring opportunity. As I've stated, I think he is very good at retrieving the ball but this simply isn't enough if you want to be playing top flight football. Admittedly, Abe is very new and has a lot to learn about the pace of the game in the championship which is why he keeps getting caught on the ball, but this will come with time. Furthermore, with the current language barrier it is difficult for him to understand instructions from teammates when a player is closing him down, but again this will come with time. However, having seen him play on numerous ocassions it is quite obvious that the guy is of a far superior standard to the championship. His touch as I mentioned earlier creates time allowing him to bring others into play, whilst his ability to get up and down the pitch enables the side to break quickly out of defence.

I appreciate we clearly aren't going to agree on this one, but I'm sure time will prove who has the better judgement.

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Are you having a laugh?!? Wellens - Football Brain? The guy is extremely limited in this department! I would suggest you put the tele on tonight and watch some real footballing brains in the Champions League before making sweeping statements suggesting Wellens has a great footballing brain.

If you actually read what I wrote you would see that I'm not adverse to the guy, just don't think he shows the same sort of class on the ball as Abe. Virtually every week Wellens gives the ball away cheaply trying to be a fancy dan around the edge of the oppositions box, when a simple pass to feet would create a goalscoring opportunity. As I've stated, I think he is very good at retrieving the ball but this simply isn't enough if you want to be playing top flight football. Admittedly, Abe is very new and has a lot to learn about the pace of the game in the championship which is why he keeps getting caught on the ball, but this will come with time. Furthermore, with the current language barrier it is difficult for him to understand instructions from teammates when a player is closing him down, but again this will come with time. However, having seen him play on numerous ocassions it is quite obvious that the guy is of standard far superior to the championship. His touch as I mentioned earlier creates time allowing him to bring others into play, whilst his ability to get up and down the pitch enables the side to break quickly out of defence.

I appreciate we clearly aren't going to agree on this one, but I'm sure time will prove who has the better judgement.

You must be living in a dreamworld, I could not disagree with you more.

If you can't see Wellens has footballing vision and a footballing brain you've not been watching Leicester. It's your vision that is lacking, not his. That is why he can play the more difficult ball, when none of our other players see it. I did not suggest he is good enough for the Champions League, are you suggesting Abe is?! That's not the point is it.

This 'fancy Dan' stuff you keep going on about is fictional. In fact saying he doesn't create goalscoring opportunities because of it isn't true, as he creates plenty.

You say Abe's touch creates time - or is it that he's played against Preston who haven't closed him down quick enough? If you are suggesting Wellens doesn't have a first touch... :frusty:

It's funny how many people don't think Wellens is up to our standard, yet he has had very few bad performances for us and was a key player in our play-off season. Pearson obviously thought a lot of him - that's why he kept picking him.

And stop going on about top flight football, we are in the bottom half of the Championship. Get real.

Abe may well be a good player, but he has not proved he should be in instead of Wellens yet, not even close.

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I'd be interested to see how many assists Wellens has to his name because the one thing he's capable of is being an incisive passer, I just question whether he's achieved that yet at Leicester because his game isn't strictly a defensive midfield role so if you don't score goals then you should be setting them up regularly. I remember a stunning pass at home against Watford last season, are there many others? The simple answer, whether people think he has ability or not is that he has to perform otherwise he'll be done for, like any of the others. Richie knows that too, time he put up or shut up.

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You must be living in a dreamworld, I could not disagree with you more.

If you can't see Wellens has footballing vision and a footballing brain you've not been watching Leicester. It's your vision that is lacking, not his. That is why he can play the more difficult ball, when none of our other players see it. I did not suggest he is good enough for the Champions League, are you suggesting Abe is?! That's not the point is it.

This 'fancy Dan' stuff you keep going on about is fictional. In fact saying he doesn't create goalscoring opportunities because of it isn't true, as he creates plenty.

You say Abe's touch creates time - or is it that he's played against Preston who haven't closed him down quick enough? If you are suggesting Wellens doesn't have a first touch... :frusty:

It's funny how many people don't think Wellens is up to our standard, yet he has had very few bad performances for us and was a key player in our play-off season. Pearson obviously thought a lot of him - that's why he kept picking him.

And stop going on about top flight football, we are in the bottom half of the Championship. Get real.

Abe may well be a good player, but he has not proved he should be in instead of Wellens yet, not even close.

You've got to be kidding...

I'm not saying Wellens is a bad player, far from it. He does however have massive limitations. He IS prone (whatever you think) to trying the Hollywood ball way too often. He DOES lack stamina in the middle of the park sometimes, to the point where even Oakley is diving in to tackles around our box, rather than Wellens.

Taking the bold points in turn....

I genuinely can't remember when Wellens set up a goal through his own play. Really. But feel free to correct me!

Secondly, Abe played against the same Preston team the rest of our lads did. The fact that he and very few other players (King?) had the time and space he often did, speaks volume about his technical skill.

Pearson also often picked Oakley. For all Pearson did, he had a definite style of filling the midfield with combative ball winners - we have sorely lacked a ball player in the heart of midfield. Hopefully Yuki can fill that void.

Saying that one player is 'better' than another is difficult, especially at the level we're talking about. However, you can't deny Abe's pedigree, his obvious technical qualities, his fitness and his vision in picking a pass. I'm not saying he DEFINITELY should be ahead of Wellens - Richie has a role to play for us. Your problem is that you don't see Wellens for the player he is - a combative, no nonsense central midfielder. He should be picking short balls and getting our attacks going. Abe on the other hand CAN play that killer ball and has the stamina to get box to box. It looks as though Kingy is becoming a focal point for our team - there should be no reason why we can't play both Wellens and Abe. However, given the choice, I'd take the technical skill of Abe over Wellens.

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Agreed withe every single word Kitchandro has said.

Plus, King and Abe as CM pairing?

No where near strong enough for the Championship, King is a great talent but he bottles challenges week in, week out. And as for Abe he went into one tough challenge against Preston, got a little bit hurt then didn't look like he dared go in for another challenge. So that is also why we need Wellens in the team to get stuck in and does what he does best.

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You've got to be kidding...

I'm not saying Wellens is a bad player, far from it. He does however have massive limitations. He IS prone (whatever you think) to trying the Hollywood ball way too often. He DOES lack stamina in the middle of the park sometimes, to the point where even Oakley is diving in to tackles around our box, rather than Wellens.

Taking the bold points in turn....

I genuinely can't remember when Wellens set up a goal through his own play. Really. But feel free to correct me!

Secondly, Abe played against the same Preston team the rest of our lads did. The fact that he and very few other players (King?) had the time and space he often did, speaks volume about his technical skill.

Pearson also often picked Oakley. For all Pearson did, he had a definite style of filling the midfield with combative ball winners - we have sorely lacked a ball player in the heart of midfield. Hopefully Yuki can fill that void.

Saying that one player is 'better' than another is difficult, especially at the level we're talking about. However, you can't deny Abe's pedigree, his obvious technical qualities, his fitness and his vision in picking a pass. I'm not saying he DEFINITELY should be ahead of Wellens - Richie has a role to play for us. Your problem is that you don't see Wellens for the player he is - a combative, no nonsense central midfielder. He should be picking short balls and getting our attacks going. Abe on the other hand CAN play that killer ball and has the stamina to get box to box. It looks as though Kingy is becoming a focal point for our team - there should be no reason why we can't play both Wellens and Abe. However, given the choice, I'd take the technical skill of Abe over Wellens.

No, not 'whatever I think', what I think contradicts what you think, therefore your point is not definite, in fact it's wrong.

Oakley is diving into challenges because his second touch is a tackle and he does fook all else.

He created both against Cardiff from memory and I seem to remember he's had 4 assists so far this season. He created plenty of goals last season too. If you watched the highlights from last season you will see how much he contributed to goals And furthermore, I think you'll find it's not always about the final ball, but the first ball, the one that gets us in decent positions. He starts moves, not necessaily finishes them. I see with my own eyes that he is a creative player.

No. What would speak volumes about his technical skill would be if he didn't have time on the ball, and still kept it well. Having the skill to beat a player and passing it well shows you have technical skill. Making space, not having space, is skill. Something Wellens is good at.

Pearson did pick Oakley but dropped him when Spearing came in. He kept Wellens in the team for the whole season though, including towards the end when we were playing really well.

And don't tell me what my problem is, I know what kind of player Wellens is, and he is more than a combative midfielder. He is the heart of our midfield who can defend and start attacks. He makes it tick you might say.

I do hope Sven knows more about football than you, or else we're in trouble.

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Wellens is a great player IMO. Works his socks off all game, great on the ball.

I don't quite understand what he has said to be prejudice? If people can't speak english how can they communicate? One of the most vital things to do on a football pitch :dunno: seems quite simple to me.

Unless I've missed something??

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I'd be interested to see how many assists Wellens has to his name because the one thing he's capable of is being an incisive passer, I just question whether he's achieved that yet at Leicester because his game isn't strictly a defensive midfield role so if you don't score goals then you should be setting them up regularly. I remember a stunning pass at home against Watford last season, are there many others? The simple answer, whether people think he has ability or not is that he has to perform otherwise he'll be done for, like any of the others. Richie knows that too, time he put up or shut up.

You can seriously only remember him being involved in one goal last season? I suggest you get a time machine, or at least watch the season review.

Of course you have to continue performing to warrant a place in the team, I've never argued with this, but Wellens is performing.

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