Wymsey Posted 9 November 2010 Posted 9 November 2010 Ah well, anyway i'm of to bed. Please don't follow (for at least 5 mins). Do you need soap/ massage 'scrubber'?
MC Prussian Posted 9 November 2010 Posted 9 November 2010 I just wouldn't want to go further into it. Undisclosed clause in my contract with Bilo. Discretionary terms and all that SHIT, you know. Btw, this IS the "Bumming Issue" thread, right? EDIT: D'oh.
Asha Posted 9 November 2010 Posted 9 November 2010 If there was a change that allowed stading, there would definitely be an improvement because no doubt thousands would flock there, but that is a change beyond what us fans want. Would there really be? Would the majority of L1 leave their 'banter with the away fans' where they can stand anyway? There seems to be a belief some people have that one slight adjustment here or there would lead to 20,000 people having their desire to stand fulfilled - which isn't the case at all. Most people don't want to stand. Period. Ashley mentioned the change from Filbert Street, and yes, if standing areas were implemented then, or specific 'singing sections' authorised we might have a rocking Walkers today. But as this is not the case, eight years on it would take one hell of an effort to change the mindset of the majority about the best way of watching a football game.
MC Prussian Posted 9 November 2010 Posted 9 November 2010 Would there really be? Would the majority of L1 leave their 'banter with the away fans' where they can stand anyway? There seems to be a belief some people have that one slight adjustment here or there would lead to 20,000 people having their desire to stand fulfilled - which isn't the case at all. Most people don't want to stand. Period. Ashley mentioned the change from Filbert Street, and yes, if standing areas were implemented then, or specific 'singing sections' authorised we might have a rocking Walkers today. But as this is not the case, eight years on it would take one hell of an effort to change the mindset of the majority about the best way of watching a football game. With the type of modern football stadia, they don't really have a choice, do they? There was standing areas in the past and there was a crowd that wanted to stand. This amount of people have been conditioned to sitting on their behind in the past 10, 15 years (again, mostly down to the tragic events in the mid- and late Eighties). Regarding the flag issue, now that Sheffield United fans are told to register their flags prior to tomorrow's match, you do see that the club now has to maintain this stance and force every single club in the UK to follow suit. This won't bode too well with other away supporters and we're back to being some kind of laughing stock. I mean, in what other Championship/football club forces the away fans to register their flags and banners? What started out as flak against the Fosse Boys could now very possible backlash tenfold.
Asha Posted 9 November 2010 Posted 9 November 2010 With the type of modern football stadia, they don't really have a choice, do they? People who want to stand can, there are (albeit few) areas for people to stand should they really want to, should the desire really be there. The whole 'conditioning' point is what I was trying to make really in relation to the atmosphere at Filbert Street. Eight years have passed, people have got used to sitting (A lot of whom would not have been to Filbert Street and therefore wouldn't know "what they were missing"), and it would be a massive effort to try and change that.
MC Prussian Posted 9 November 2010 Posted 9 November 2010 People who want to stand can, there are (albeit few) areas for people to stand should they really want to, should the desire really be there. The whole 'conditioning' point is what I was trying to make really in relation to the atmosphere at Filbert Street. Eight years have passed, people have got used to sitting (A lot of whom would not have been to Filbert Street and therefore wouldn't know "what they were missing"), and it would be a massive effort to try and change that. All it takes is an assigned standing sector.
AndyBrew Posted 9 November 2010 Posted 9 November 2010 All it takes is an assigned standing sector. I would agree 100% with this
MC Prussian Posted 9 November 2010 Posted 9 November 2010 The club could easily do a little experiment and remove the seats in the area where the Fosse Boys are right now. Then you let a few games pass by and assess the situation anew. If the experiment was successful and no serious incidents are reported, both the club and the fans have won. It would encourage more people to come and stand in the designated area and very probably generate more revenues (albeit only on a small scale in the beginning). They could even lower ticket prices slightly to attract more fans in that particular sector. If the experiment fails, put them seats back to where they were before. Then again, I can see the club being in a Sandwich Position between the fans and the FA, though. Which I think is the main reason behind the whole "fire certificate" attempt of a joke.
C-man Posted 9 November 2010 Posted 9 November 2010 This thread is an example of why this forum is heading down the swanny.
Babylon Posted 9 November 2010 Posted 9 November 2010 The club could easily do a little experiment and remove the seats in the area where the Fosse Boys are right now. Good idea except stands with a slope greater than 25˚ are considered unsafe for persistent standing, even if they weren't they would still need to remove everything that's there now and replace them with hand rails. Which would end up actually being a rather expensive exercise should we get to the premier, as we'd have to put them all back again.
Babylon Posted 9 November 2010 Posted 9 November 2010 Regarding the flag issue, now that Sheffield United fans are told to register their flags prior to tomorrow's match, you do see that the club now has to maintain this stance and force every single club in the UK to follow suit. This won't bode too well with other away supporters and we're back to being some kind of laughing stock. I mean, in what other Championship/football club forces the away fans to register their flags and banners? What started out as flak against the Fosse Boys could now very possible backlash tenfold. The United fans are use to it. Could be United hiding behind us though, they are having a "flag day" at the lane where they are encouraging everyone to bring flags etc.... but you need to get a fire safety certificate issued to get them in the ground.
davieG Posted 9 November 2010 Author Posted 9 November 2010 Problem solved thanks to Bentley's Comes with optional flask for those 'old uns' who prefer to sit and not sing.
Guest Bilo Posted 9 November 2010 Posted 9 November 2010 This thread is an example of why this forum is heading down the swanny. You're not wrong there chap. It really has turned poor over the last year or so, it was a right laugh in the League One season but I get the impression that some of the more entertaining heads have either grown up or stopped posting. Quite disappointing really.
davieG Posted 9 November 2010 Author Posted 9 November 2010 You're not wrong there chap. It really has turned poor over the last year or so, it was a right laugh in the League One season but I get the impression that some of the more entertaining heads have either grown up or stopped posting. Quite disappointing really. There were plenty of arguments and bust ups back in the day I guess it depends on your involvement looking in I've found this thread to be quite entertaining.
Guest Bilo Posted 9 November 2010 Posted 9 November 2010 There were plenty of arguments and bust ups back in the day I guess it depends on your involvement looking in I've found this thread to be quite entertaining. Don't get me wrong, there are a few trying to get the thread on form and still some damned good posters around but there seems to be a lot of crap posted on this and plenty of other threads that would have been shot down in flames not so very long ago.
okie fox Posted 9 November 2010 Posted 9 November 2010 Good idea except stands with a slope greater than 25˚ are considered unsafe for persistent standing, even if they weren't they would still need to remove everything that's there now and replace them with hand rails. Which would end up actually being a rather expensive exercise should we get to the premier, as we'd have to put them all back again. The railing are very important for safety reasons -- they must be strategically placed or otherwise the crowd sways back and forth too much and people at the front get crushed. I remember standing at Filbert Street when it was packed (close to 40,000). Even with the railings the crowd would sway quite scarily.
Jimmy Posted 9 November 2010 Posted 9 November 2010 just found this on the Football Licence Authority website if you want to contact the man who inspects the Walkers directly his name is Martin Girvan the address for our SAG is Safety Advisory Group Leicester City Council Block A, New Walk Centre Welford Place Leicester LE1 6ZG
C.J Posted 9 November 2010 Posted 9 November 2010 What if I explode eating my microwaved pie? This very nearly happened to me before the West Brom game when I bit into a steak and kidney pie (after clearly asking for a chicken and mushroom one, but thats another story). I've only just regained the sense of taste now. This is strange because Sheffield Wednesday can't issue fire safety certificates. The material has to be tested by a company who have the specialist equipment to do so. A box of matches then? I didnt think fire had been invented up north yet.
MC Prussian Posted 9 November 2010 Posted 9 November 2010 @ thread what if i eat my microwaved pie STEWARD!!!
Houdini Logic Posted 9 November 2010 Posted 9 November 2010 I heard that the club were considering putting a flag amnesty bin in the Walkers, but the thought of that many flags in such close proximity was too much of a fear for the club and the surrounding several neighbourhoods
The Doctor Posted 9 November 2010 Posted 9 November 2010 i really can't understand why this has reached 10 pages. Flags are a fire hazard, despite the fact it's a non-smoking stadium people still smoke in their seats and so there is the possibility of the flags catching fire. Given the way modern society has gone to the point where it's all about money if the flags catch fire and someone gets injured the club are at risk of being sued. They're just trying to cover their arses in case that does happen.
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