Ratings v Donnie

[ajthefox]

Weale - 6 - was at no fault for the goal and did what was necessary.

Cunningham - 7.5 - Some quality deliveries and generally played well, unlucky he didn't score what would've been a fvcking beauty

Vitor - 7 - average performance, didn't really have loads to do in all honesty. Poor start though and looked shakey at times.

Davies - 7 - as above

Naughton - 8 - Solid performance defensively and it was a joy to see him bombing up the flank, fook knows what their left back was doing. really pleased he got a goal, finished it like an in form striker. (cracking celebration - 10 -)

Abe - 7 - played well, did what he had to for most of the game.

Wellens - 9 - Man of the match. One of few to play well first half, bagged a very nice goal and made a massive contribution

King - 7.5 - quieter match but still played well, some good passing and should have scored late on.

Gallagher - 6 - Faair enough he scored the penalty but he doesn't contribute enough to the team for me.

Bednar - 4 - Wank. Didn't create anything for himself and was bollocks in the air. Needs to show some of the form he did at west brom otherwise he'll be out the door in jan for good.

Vassel - 8 - Seems to be improving. Finished his goal with aplom and generally played well.

Dyer - 8 - Changed the game drastically, although not all through individual effort, more how we went about the game when he came on

Waghorn - 7.5 - Played ok. Scored so should get a confidence boost but really should have had one before when he went one on one with the keeper but took a shit extra tough whereas last season he would've spanked it home.

Oakley wasn't on for long enough to make a real impression.

[hackneyfox]

Weale 5 One good palm away when it was behing him but went walkabout at one point

Cunningham 7 So unlucky not to score a peach of a goal

Vitor & Davies 5.5 Not one of their better days

Naughton 8 Class player

Abe 7

King 7

Wellens 8

Vassel 8

Gallagher 6 But again so cool with the penalty

Bednar 1 dreadful

Dyer 7.5 I'm not his greatest fan but we looked so much better when he came on, probably due to a change in formation as well.

Waghorn Well he score so hopefully he can improve from here on but that one on one was awful

Beyond me how Bednar can be awarded 5 or 6 by so many people, he's getting worse.

Took my 5 year old lad today for his 3rd game, Watford, Scunny & Donny 15 GOALS he's seen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[STUHILL]

Weale - 6.5 No chance for their goal and other than that, pretty untested.

Naughton - 9 Joint best player on the pitch. The guy is rapid and is strong defensively too when needed. Permanent plz!

Davies - 6.5 Worried me first half and I was questioning whether we really wanted him long-term. Heading and passing aimless but did improve 2nd half

Vitor - 7 Look clueless in the first 20minutes. Gradually grew in to the game and finished very strongly and looked a lot more confident. We need a settled back four!

Cunningham - 6.5 Really struggled first half as Donny piled pressure on him. Even his deliveries were poor but like many others got much better 2nd half.

Abe - 8.5 Not his greatest performance first half but difficult as the whole team were so poor. This guy is a machine, never stops working and adds a touch of class too

Wellens - 9 (MOM) The only player who I thought played ok 1st half and was brilliant 2nd. He was always wanting the ball and looking to create things. Great goal too

King - 7.5 Love to see him supporting the attack and giving the defence another thing to worry about. Absent first half, improved greatly second but outshone for once.

Gallagher - 7 For all his good play, there is twice as much bad for me. He slows down our attacks and is so lightweight in tackles. Good peno again but he frustrates me

Vassel - 8 Very good display. Loves to run at players, sometimes needlessly but defenders hate it and he will always cause problems with his high work-rate.

Bednar - 2 First time I have seen Bednar and I was so disappointed. He couldn't even do the simplest of things right. I would start all our other strikers over him at the moment

Dyer - 8.5 How he is not starting is a mystery. Sven take note, this boy is awesome when on song. Fast and direct and hard working, He HAS to start next weekend.

Waghorn - 7.5 Didn't look nervous, wanted the ball and could see he was determined to get his goal. Has to be a better option than Bednar after today's brief showing.

Oakley - N/A

Sven - 7.5 Shocking first half but I knew if we went in only a goal down (1-1 better obviously), Sven could change that. Very fortunate with the Penalty but the Dyer substitution and switching Vassel up top was a great call and we destroyed them with pace. Sven is a breath of fresh air and I can't remember a Manager who talks more sense and fills me with such confidence that he will do the right things. I'm hoping he has seen like the rest of us that Bednar for whatever reason is no where near capable of being a lone striker for us. I'm hoping he changes it for Ipswich if Bednar is fit anyway. Great stuff Sven, just try get us playing for 90minutes now plz!!

[darko2k7]

Weale 7 ( could do nothing for the goal and did everything that was asked of him well after )

Naughton 8 ( some great runs could have been put in three or four times other than the goal )

Vitor 7 ( Is it just me or does anyone else get him confused with abi from a distance kept thinking why is abi playing CB )

Davies 7.5 ( Solid )

Cunningham 7 ( rubbish marking first ten minutes that lead to there goal but played well after that )

Abe 8 ( makes breaking up the play look easy CLASS)

Wellens 9 ( great goal, ran the midfield ) SHOOOOOTTTT

King 7 (Did his jobs well today )

Gallagher 6.5 ( Scored the penatly thaty turned game but thats about it )

Bedner 2 ( awful , Send him back )

Vassell 8[./b] ( a little greedy at time but played well when he was put up top )

Subs

Dyer 7 ( changed the game when he came on , must start next game ! )

Waghorn ( Missed a sitter but took his goal well late on

[Bryn]

I didn't have my eyes on the stream for 90 minutes but I made a few observations.

Curtis Davies has an air of complacency - a lot of the time his natural ability gets him through this, but it's a fault that has been lambasted by Villa fans and which could prove costly at some point. One eye on a big January move I feel.

The purchase of Naughton seems both plausible and essential to me.

Yuki Abe is looking very impressive - still a bit overenthusiastic at times when trying to get hold of loose balls, sometimes knocks them back to the opposition, but this is a minor issue.

Richie Wellens is being overshadowed by King this season, but he looks on top form to me. Dominates the midfield, he can pass, he can tackle, he can dribble and apparently he can shoot. Class player.

Gallagher remains an infuriatingly enigmatic player, but he's upped his work rate and if he continues to stick the set pieces away he's worthy of a place, although I'd like us to get hold of another winger.

Lloyd Dyer's omission from the starting line up is a mistake for as long as he is on form.

Vassell's movement off the ball will be increasingly fruitful, particularly if he's played through the middle.

Bednar is a hindrance, and needs to be allowed time to get fitter before being given a final chance to impress.

[Legend_in_blue]

Weale - 7

Naughton - 9

Davies - 6.5

Vitor - 7.5

Cunningham - 7

Abe - 8.5

Wellens - 9

King - 8

Vassell - 8.5

Bednar - 0.1 (I'll give him the 0.1 for helping change the game in our favour by going off injured)

Gallagher - 7.5

Subs

Dyer - 9

Waghorn - 7

Oakley - N/a

[Ross 'LCFC' Turner]

Weale-7

Naughton-7.5 Apart from his goal (and the celebration) nothing special

Vitor-7

Davies-7 Nearly gifted a goal

Cunningham-7.5 Struggled defensively in the 1st half. Put in some cracking crosses.

Abe-7.5 A decent player but not as good as some of the hype he gets on here.

Wellens-8 Got stuck in when we were struggling, best goal of the game.

King-7.5 One of his quieter games still a goal threat.

Gallagher-7.5 He gets some stick but I rate him

,Bedner-6 Fooking donkey

Vassell-7.5 Looked far better in the centre.

Subs;

Dyer-7.5 Changed the game.

Waghorn-7

Oakley-N/A

your a fool, you obviously wasnt watching the same game as me, for a start kyle naughton got the sponsors man of the match so he must have been doing something rite, also scoring a goal from right back is impressive but they way he took it was quality, he had no rite no be in the area after weve just defended a corner, cunningham didnt struggle in defense in my opion, he had a slow start but dealing with billy sharp when you have verry little experience is always going to be difficult other than that didnt even have anything to do hense their one shot on target, he deserves credit for his strike that hit the bar and the way he kept on attacking all game he was always a threat and yet hes only 19, youve given yuki abe no credit yet in the first half he was the only man who wanted to win the game, always wanted to get on the ball and controlled the game in second half showing excellent feet and touches, ran his heart out for the full 90 again, darriuss vassell deserved better than a 7.5 in the second half he was so dangerous playing through the middle was involved in most attacking moves and again showed some excellent skill, can be lazy and frustrating at times but deserved ateast an 8, waghorn did 4 things from what i can remember one shot ended up in the back of the family stand, his touch when he could have easily scored ended up in neil sullivans hands, yet he scored and played the ball through to king in the first place average performance should have been a 6 nd lloyd dyer changed the game as you said but was involed in almost everything, won us the penalty and had a part to play in most goals, only player who drives at defences and deserves a start because bedner as you said is a donkey ..... your ratings were shocking, we won 5-1 and yet only one player got 8 or above some people are so hard to please .....

[dannythefox]

Weale 7.5

Naughton 9

Davies 7.5

Vitor 6.4 (carnt make a quick decision)

Cunningham 7.8

Abe 7.8

Wellens 8.5

King 7.8

Vassell 8

Bednar 5 (needs to go away and get fit)

Gallagher 7.9

Subs

Dyer 8

Waghorn 7.8 (great ball through to king)

Oakley 7.5

[Webbo]

your a fool, you obviously wasnt watching the same game as me, for a start kyle naughton got the sponsors man of the match so he must have been doing something rite, also scoring a goal from right back is impressive but they way he took it was quality, he had no rite no be in the area after weve just defended a corner, cunningham didnt struggle in defense in my opion, he had a slow start but dealing with billy sharp when you have verry little experience is always going to be difficult other than that didnt even have anything to do hense their one shot on target, he deserves credit for his strike that hit the bar and the way he kept on attacking all game he was always a threat and yet hes only 19, youve given yuki abe no credit yet in the first half he was the only man who wanted to win the game, always wanted to get on the ball and controlled the game in second half showing excellent feet and touches, ran his heart out for the full 90 again, darriuss vassell deserved better than a 7.5 in the second half he was so dangerous playing through the middle was involved in most attacking moves and again showed some excellent skill, can be lazy and frustrating at times but deserved ateast an 8, waghorn did 4 things from what i can remember one shot ended up in the back of the family stand, his touch when he could have easily scored ended up in neil sullivans hands, yet he scored and played the ball through to king in the first place average performance should have been a 6 nd lloyd dyer changed the game as you said but was involed in almost everything, won us the penalty and had a part to play in most goals, only player who drives at defences and deserves a start because bedner as you said is a donkey ..... your ratings were shocking, we won 5-1 and yet only one player got 8 or above some people are so hard to please .....

At least I can spell and punctuate.

[Nick]

your a fool, you obviously wasnt watching the same game as me, for a start kyle naughton got the sponsors man of the match so he must have been doing something rite, also scoring a goal from right back is impressive but they way he took it was quality, he had no rite no be in the area after weve just defended a corner, cunningham didnt struggle in defense in my opion, he had a slow start but dealing with billy sharp when you have verry little experience is always going to be difficult other than that didnt even have anything to do hense their one shot on target, he deserves credit for his strike that hit the bar and the way he kept on attacking all game he was always a threat and yet hes only 19, youve given yuki abe no credit yet in the first half he was the only man who wanted to win the game, always wanted to get on the ball and controlled the game in second half showing excellent feet and touches, ran his heart out for the full 90 again, darriuss vassell deserved better than a 7.5 in the second half he was so dangerous playing through the middle was involved in most attacking moves and again showed some excellent skill, can be lazy and frustrating at times but deserved ateast an 8, waghorn did 4 things from what i can remember one shot ended up in the back of the family stand, his touch when he could have easily scored ended up in neil sullivans hands, yet he scored and played the ball through to king in the first place average performance should have been a 6 nd lloyd dyer changed the game as you said but was involed in almost everything, won us the penalty and had a part to play in most goals, only player who drives at defences and deserves a start because bedner as you said is a donkey ..... your ratings were shocking, we won 5-1 and yet only one player got 8 or above some people are so hard to please .....

You know, Ross, all Webbo did was put his ratings down for the players in the appropriate thread in the appropriate forum.

He's guilty of having an opinion - that's what these boards are for.

I didn't agree with him either on his points distribution for some individuals.

I thought your assessment of the game was really quite insightful.

Unfortunately anything positive, interesting or founded was negated by your opening lines which were insulting and to be blunt, an over-reaction.

If you want to be taken seriously - which you perhaps should be, wind your neck in.

N.

[Webbo]

Unfortunately anything positive, interesting or founded was negated by your opening lines which were insulting and to be blunt, an over-reaction.

I wasn't offended. I just thought it was funny that he over reacted like that.

And Ross, I was pleased, honest. It's just as I've said on here before I very rarely give more than an 8 or less than a 6.

[Thracian]

You know, Ross, all Webbo did was put his ratings down for the players in the appropriate thread in the appropriate forum.

He's guilty of having an opinion - that's what these boards are for.

I didn't agree with him either on his points distribution for some individuals.

I thought your assessment of the game was really quite insightful.

Unfortunately anything positive, interesting or founded was negated by your opening lines which were insulting and to be blunt, an over-reaction.

If you want to be taken seriously - which you perhaps should be, wind your neck in.

N.

Manners maketh man, eh!

[marbelladave]

Manners maketh man, eh!

Writing in English would help too....

Classic example of someone with some decent, worthwhile points that fail to convince because of the appalling writing style.

Try some punctuation and paragraphs, makes it much easier to read and gets you points across much more clearly...

[Ashby]

Some of the marks really take some understanding and I suspect that they are based on the full time result. I have to admit that once the 2nd goal went in Donny were gone defensively. I think that it might be helpful to mark players for their first half performance and second half.

In the first 15 minutes we could have been 3 down and not just the 1 and perhaps have conceeded 4 by half time.

First half ratings

Weale - 7

Naughton - 5

Davies - 5

Vitor - 4

Cunnngham - 5

Gallagher - 5

Wellens - 6

Abe - 6

King - 5

Vassell - 5

Bednar - 4

The defence were really all over the place first half. Vitor out of position for their goal and nearly gave another away when losing position shortly after.

Davis just what was he doing passing the ball inside with out looking. Thought Sven said in the paper the other day that the defence should learn when to play and when to place in the river. Having said that why was his central defensive partner not shouting at he him not to pass inside. How much English does Vitor know. Also thought that we gave the ball away far to easily. Was it a penalty that got s back in the game. No matter if it was or was not it changed the game.

2nd half.

Weale - 7

Naughton - 8.5

Davies - 6

Vitor - 5

Cunnngham - 7.5

Gallagher - 7

Wellens - 8

Abe - 8

King - 7

Vassell - 7.5

Dyerr - 8

Once Wellens got the second only one team were going to win but lets not forget that Donny did have a couple of good chances in the second half.

Good win but lets not close our eyes to the problems we had at the back especially first half.

[dpjfox]

excellent observations Burnham agree totally

[Fox92]

Weale 7 - Did well not to concede a penalty

Naughton 8 - Gets forward well

Davies 7

Vitor 8 - Solid as a rock. Much safer than any other defender at the club

Cunningham 7.5

Abe 8

Wellens 9 - MOTM. Deserved this goal for a while now. Gets stuck in, great passing, fantastic goal

King 7

Gallagher 7

Bednar 5 - Has no support. Don't understand why King isn't closer to him

Vassell 8.5 - Playing up front, fantastic.

[Ross 'LCFC' Turner]

You know, Ross, all Webbo did was put his ratings down for the players in the appropriate thread in the appropriate forum.

He's guilty of having an opinion - that's what these boards are for.

I didn't agree with him either on his points distribution for some individuals.

I thought your assessment of the game was really quite insightful.

Unfortunately anything positive, interesting or founded was negated by your opening lines which were insulting and to be blunt, an over-reaction.

If you want to be taken seriously - which you perhaps should be, wind your neck in.

N.

wasnt trying to offend the guy, just cant understand why he didnt give the team any credit, were always quick to critiise the side so we need to give them praise when they deserve it.

[crazylegs1984]

And what u have done is have ago at someone else for havin a opinion pfttt

[paddy Agyemang]

DYER HAS TO START FROM NOW ON

[Corky]

Weale- 6

Naughton- 8

Davies- 6

Vitor- 6

Cunningham- 8

Abe- 7

Wellens- 8.5

King- 7

Vassell- 7.5

Bednar- 3

Gallagher- 6

Dyer- 7

Waghorn- 6

Oakley- N/A

[hackneyfox]

I wasn't offended. I just thought it was funny that he over reacted like that.

And Ross, I was pleased, honest. It's just as I've said on here before I very rarely give more than an 8 or less than a 6.

Why a range of 3 when 10 is available?

How did Bednar deserve a 6 yesterday?

Not having a go, I just don't understand why you limit your scores.

[Webbo]

Why a range of 3 when 10 is available?

How did Bednar deserve a 6 yesterday?

Not having a go, I just don't understand why you limit your scores.

It's a range of 6 really if you use half points.

I don't get carried away when we win and I'm not suicidal when we lose. It's just the way I am.

[hackneyfox]

So it's 6 compared to 20.

No difference.

I've heard of people being accused of seeing things in only black or white but never just in grey.

Fair play, you won't die from a stroke.

;-)

[okie fox]

Weale -7- Competent this week!

Naughton -8 Great going forward, but sometimes doesn't get back.

Davies -6- Almost gifted them a goal. Too nonchalant at times.

Vitor -6- Central defence is still shaky at times.

Cunningham -8- See Naughton

Abe -8- High energy dynamo -- allows Wellens to get forward.

Wellens -9- Great goal and assist. ran the show in the second half. MOM

King -7- Not highly visible, but hit the woodwork twice.

Vassall -8- Much better in the middle where he is not hemmed in by the sideline. His and Dyer's running opened up their defence.

Bednar -4- Did very little before his injury. Hope we don't sign him in January.

Gallagher -7- Improved performance.

Dyer -8- Dyer on wing and Vassall down the middle is much better option than Vassall on wing and a clunker in the middle.

Waghorn -6- Bad touch when 1 on 1, but picked out King and netted the rebound at end.

Oakley -6- Not on long, but good ball to put Waghorn through on goal.

[Webbo]

So it's 6 compared to 20.

No difference.

I've heard of people being accused of seeing things in only black or white but never just in grey.

Fair play, you won't die from a stroke.

;-)

I do occasionally give out 9s. I think I gave Gallagher 10 last year when he scored a hat trick.