AlphaMaleFox Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 Also, so many people sat down, not sure why? We've been 100% stood everywhere for about 4 months, yet only the back row were stood in some sections today. And what was kicking off at half time? Fighting between our own fans? Or fighting with the coppers? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1p2SJYoygs
Bert Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 Very disappointing game really, should have been two ro three up before they scored. Yakubu was very lazy and poor. He may have scored, but thats all he did. On to next season now. Which is more than anyone else did today.
winnie the blue Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 A strike ratio of 1 in 2 is not enough he's too lazehh. Send all the loan players back they contribute nothing. A strike rate of 1 in 2 is not enough if 3 goals come in one game and then he does nothing for the next 5 games!! He is lazy and contributes nothing to the team ethic. He should go !
Bert Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 A strike rate of 1 in 2 is not enough if 3 goals come in one game and then he does nothing for the next 5 games!! He is lazy and contributes nothing to the team ethic. He should go ! I bet you're one of the people moaning that Fryatt left, yet his goal ratio since he's been at Hull is worse, including a hat-trick and at least two penalties. We've not had a striker with same goals to game ratio as Yakubu AT THIS LEVEL since Dickov 9 years ago, which co-incided with promotion. I'd much rather we had him here next season.
Bugg Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 A strike rate of 1 in 2 is not enough if 3 goals come in one game and then he does nothing for the next 5 games!! He is lazy and contributes nothing to the team ethic. He should go ! Yeah lets have a player who runs around like a headless chicken, scores 1 and does nothing for most of the season instead...
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 Which is more than anyone else did today. Maybe, but scoring doesnt change the fact he is lazy and contributes very little. I'd rather have a striker who tries hard and never gives up, who might not score loads, but that sort of striker will help the team more, work and make space for other players.
Bugg Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 How on earth can a striker who runs around a lot and creates a bit space, yet doesn't score be better than a player who actually scores the goals (you know, the things you need to win games)?
Bert Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 Maybe, but scoring doesnt change the fact he is lazy and contributes very little. I'd rather have a striker who tries hard and never gives up, who might not score loads, but that sort of striker will help the team more, work and make space for other players. I'd rather have a striker that can score 20 goals a season, we'll struggle to get out of this league otherwise. I don't think many people will argue the toss over Yakubu's work rate to be fair.
Father Ted Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 I'm genuinely losing all respect for people moaning about Yakubu doing nothing but score goals. Seriously, it's like they'd rather have Hume back just so we had a work-horse up top. Yak has 10 goals in 19 league appearances. A few of those 19 appearances have been in a completely awful team where nobody has looked good - that's at least 10 players aside from Yakubu. It's a quality strike rate and we'd do well to replace it when it's gone. The guy literally can't win. +1. Completely agree, I've had enough of this Yak bashing. I would like to see some of these people's definitions of a 'striker'. It's just like the point of a hunter is to shoot animal, not to spend hours chasing after them without shooting a single one. He is there to score goals, not to run around like a headless chicken for 90 minutes, wasting pointless energy. 10 goals in 19 matches says differently. To put this into perspective, the closest any striker has come in the last 9 years for us with this ratio in this division was Paul Dickov in the 2002/03 season when he scored 20 in 46 matches. You just can't please some people unfortunately.
marko Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 I bet you're one of the people moaning that Fryatt left, yet his goal ratio since he's been at Hull is worse, including a hat-trick and at least two penalties. We've not had a striker with same goals to game ratio as Yakubu AT THIS LEVEL since Dickov 9 years ago, which co-incided with promotion. I'd much rather we had him here next season. Your argument is based on clear logic and facts so getting some to understand will be like getting the blind to see!!! It still amazes me how some people will moan if a striker is scoring but not running round like a headless chicken. If he ran round like a headless chicken like some folks seem to demand he wouldn't be in the right place to score half the time. Anyways, for what it's worth i'd have him here next season no question, i'm sure he'd be much better with a pre-season.
ScouseFox Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 We tried loads of effort and no goals. We ended up in League 1. It doesn't really work, seen as you sort of need to score goals to get points to do well in the league.
sphericalfox Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 Maybe, but scoring doesnt change the fact he is lazy and contributes very little. I'd rather have a striker who tries hard and never gives up, who might not score loads, but that sort of striker will help the team more, work and make space for other players. A flawless argument fo' sure! Do you buy you colouring books with the pictures already coloured in?
Father Ted Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 I bet you're one of the people moaning that Fryatt left, yet his goal ratio since he's been at Hull is worse, including a hat-trick and at least two penalties. We've not had a striker with same goals to game ratio as Yakubu AT THIS LEVEL since Dickov 9 years ago, which co-incided with promotion. I'd much rather we had him here next season. Beat me to it Even still Yak's ratio is better than Paul 'my' Dick-ov.
The Doctor Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 **** sake, more moaning about yakubu. He may not chase about but when has that ever been part of a strikers role? I've probably seen 1 striker at leicester who chased and harried while also scoring - Paul Dickov (first spell), the ones since that have chased and harried have usually been fairly shit, the only one who's come close to getting anything like a respectable strike rate is hume. **** "pashun", i'd rather have a striker who doesn't chase everything but puts them away on a regular basis (which, at 10 goals in 19 games, the Yak has) than a striker who chases everything but fluffs his lines when a chance comes along.
Jay Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 I bet you're one of the people moaning that Fryatt left, yet his goal ratio since he's been at Hull is worse, including a hat-trick and at least two penalties. We've not had a striker with same goals to game ratio as Yakubu AT THIS LEVEL since Dickov 9 years ago, which co-incided with promotion. I'd much rather we had him here next season. sad to say Bert I think you are wasting your time. Yakubu is a 20+ goals a season player in this league, something we have been missing for years and we get one and people moan. his job is to score goals and give him a chance and 9 times out of 10 he will put it away. very few chances as a team today and he took the only real chance he had.
Dan Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 I still think Yak in a 4-4-2 with the right partner would absolutely belt this division.
B52 Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 Yakubu is a 20+ goals a season player in this league... If Sven get all the pieces of the puzzle to work he is a 30+ goals/season player.
winnie the blue Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 As I impied above, 1 goal in every 2 games looks great, but if 3 goals come in one game (like at Middlesbro) and then you get nothing for 5 games then the ratio is the same but the record is poor. We cannot afford to have strikers who are as lazy as he is and who dont score often enough. Its about putting in the effort regularly, not just once in a blue moon.
B52 Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 As I impied above, 1 goal in every 2 games looks great, but if 3 goals come in one game (like at Middlesbro) and then you get nothing for 5 games then the ratio is the same but the record is poor. We cannot afford to have strikers who are as lazy as he is and who dont score often enough. Its about putting in the effort regularly, not just once in a blue moon. It's like that for every striker. Someone mentioned Rooney earlier. He's first goals this season was penalties and he also scores hat-tricks. If we let Yak take penalties also, he easily gets 2 goals in 3 games. Would you be happy then?
marko Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 As I impied above, 1 goal in every 2 games looks great, but if 3 goals come in one game (like at Middlesbro) and then you get nothing for 5 games then the ratio is the same but the record is poor. We cannot afford to have strikers who are as lazy as he is and who dont score often enough. Its about putting in the effort regularly, not just once in a blue moon. So what if 3 goals came in one game?! he still scored them and without his 3 goals we'd have lost!!! Would you rather we had Waghorn who's scored 4 in 19 appearances or Fryatt who scored 2 in 7 appearances???
brockmyster Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 Yakubu is so lazy, but he scores and is already our 3rd top scorer. Also king is like the yak in the sense that if he doesnt score he is not worth having on the pitch the only thing i noticed today was him consistanly losing possession of the ball.
ajthefox Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 Yakubu is so lazy, but he scores and is already our 3rd top scorer. Also king is like the yak in the sense that if he doesnt score he is not worth having on the pitch the only thing i noticed today was him consistanly losing possession of the ball. Well that's just bull.
Webbo Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 I seem to remember Fryatt haters saying that he only made any effort when he was looking for a new contract, why isn't anyone saying that about Yakubu? When the Yak is good he's very good a lot of the time he's awful, I just don't think he's got the legs to sustain any kind of form over a whole season anymore. Out of all the loanees he's the 1 I'm least bothered about keeping.
marko Posted 30 April 2011 Posted 30 April 2011 I seem to remember Fryatt haters saying that he only made any effort when he was looking for a new contract, why isn't anyone saying that about Yakubu? When the Yak is good he's very good a lot of the time he's awful, I just don't think he's got the legs to sustain any kind of form over a whole season anymore. Out of all the loanees he's the 1 I'm least bothered about keeping. He's 28 so I hardly think it's fair saying his legs have gone. Don't forget he came here half way through the season and was thrown into fast paced, competitive football after hardly playing for Everton ( i'm pretty sure it was 1 start and 7 sub appearances) so he was always going to be behind the rest of the squad in fitness terms. With a full pre-season I really think he'll score even more.
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