ajthefox Posted 30 July 2011 Posted 30 July 2011 Perhaps hundreds of was the wrong wording, but there will no doubt be a fair few out there who can more than cut it in this division. As for why there aren't championship & lower prem teams clamouring over them, I don't know but it's not beyond belief that maybe clubs in this country haven't stumbled across these players. Fair enough, I was playing devils advocate a bit and I do actually agree that to some extent there are bound to be decent strikers out there somewhere on the cheap. I think if there was any manager in the champ who would be able to get a cheap striker from abroad, it would be Sven. It's the same for everyone in that it will always be a risk as to whether a player can adapt to the differences in styles but I as I said if anyone was going to be able to do that, I would've expected it to be someone like Sven who has managed at the International level and at club level in several countries, as opposed to managers from the home nations who you expect to have a stronger national knowledge but may be less inclined to look abroad. Shame there's not a player database like on FM in real life, that'd be right handy
The Doctor Posted 30 July 2011 Posted 30 July 2011 If long scores a last minute winner inthe playoff final then will cheer like the rest of us or sit there like a twat saying 7 million was to much, I doubt it just quit frigging moaning and enjoy the season it ain't your money it's theirs just like the club is theirs aswell You've jumped the shark. It may be their money being invested and they may own the club but it's still our club and not all of us want to see us overspend on average players for progress' sake. If Long does come in for 7 million and scores I will celebrate with typical exuberance & I will not "sit there like a twat saying 7 million was too much" but the reality is 7 million is too much for a championship striker.
Guest Posted 30 July 2011 Posted 30 July 2011 He didn't say they don't have the funds, he said they don't have LIMITLESS funds. Throwing 7 or 8 million at a player with 1 year left on his contract is an OTT fee & may take a massive chunk out of our budget. I'd rather we past up the 8m for Long & brought in a couple of strikers with more than 1 decent season to their name for a similar amount, which if we were to consider that there is football outside this country shouldn't be too hard - there are hundreds of good quality strikers who could more than cut it in this league and be obtained for reasonable fees (2/3 mill) out in eastern Europe, Scandinavia, Africa & Asia. Now it's really getting silly. Did you read the initial post. B was going on about how the club will be in serious financial difficulties - IF we buy Long and IF we don't get promoted and IF our owners pull out. It was a ludicrous statement unless the poster has a crystal ball. None of those three things may happen, all three is very unlikely and even if they did the conclusion was mere conjecture. In short it was a stupid stupid statement. Your statement above about "throwing 7 or 8m at a player" is as irrelevant as not having "limitless funds" - what a stupid thing to say - no-one has limitless funds but you are supposing that you know what their funds are and that they are stupid enough to overspend on them. Their business acumen - in the world - to date says that you are talking BS again. And as for not buying 1 striker but buying 2 for a similar amount (wouldn't that be the same problem!!!) why would any team buy two average players instead of 1 good one unless they needed 2 players? Hundreds of them - obviously not. unless Sven and his staff are also complete idiots. Give me ten players that are available for us to buy that would be better than getting Long in - then assure me that these players will come to Leicester for the same or less money and then .... why bother? Your whole post was a piece of BS. BS that wasn't thought through at all.
The Doctor Posted 30 July 2011 Posted 30 July 2011 Now it's really getting silly. Did you read the initial post. B was going on about how the club will be in serious financial difficulties - IF we buy Long and IF we don't get promoted and IF our owners pull out. It was a ludicrous statement unless the poster has a crystal ball. None of those three things may happen, all three is very unlikely and even if they did the conclusion was mere conjecture. In short it was a stupid stupid statement. Your statement above about "throwing 7 or 8m at a player" is as irrelevant as not having "limitless funds" - what a stupid thing to say - no-one has limitless funds but you are supposing that you know what their funds are and that they are stupid enough to overspend on them. Their business acumen - in the world - to date says that you are talking BS again. And as for not buying 1 striker but buying 2 for a similar amount (wouldn't that be the same problem!!!) why would any team buy two average players instead of 1 good one unless they needed 2 players? Hundreds of them - obviously not. unless Sven and his staff are also complete idiots. Give me ten players that are available for us to buy that would be better than getting Long in - then assure me that these players will come to Leicester for the same or less money and then .... why bother? Your whole post was a piece of BS. BS that wasn't thought through at all. No, the problem is overspending on one player and then not being able to recoup that through their sale should the worst-case scenario happen. If we instead sign 2 players for the same amount then there is twice the scope for player sale income to help cover debts should it all go tits up. When did I say anything about buying two average players rather than 1 good one? I said that there are players out there available for less that would be better than Long, I.e. signing two good players rather than 1 average one. Certainly, provided you can prove to me Long will want to come to Leicester in the first place. It's not the first time I've said this, and it probably won't be the last: You are entitled to your own opinion, it's just wrong.
sdb Posted 30 July 2011 Posted 30 July 2011 If long scores a last minute winner inthe playoff final then will cheer like the rest of us or sit there like a twat saying 7 million was to much, I doubt it just quit frigging moaning and enjoy the season it ain't your money it's theirs just like the club is theirs aswell Yes...IF he scores a last minute goal in the PO final then OK. How about that's the fee? £1 mill upfront and another £7mill if he scores in the 120th minute at Wembley in mid May? I bet Madjeski's glad you don't negotiate transfers for LCFC!!! Tempting stuff!!
sdb Posted 30 July 2011 Posted 30 July 2011 Now it's really getting silly. Did you read the initial post. B was going on about how the club will be in serious financial difficulties - IF we buy Long and IF we don't get promoted and IF our owners pull out. It was a ludicrous statement unless the poster has a crystal ball. None of those three things may happen, all three is very unlikely and even if they did the conclusion was mere conjecture. In short it was a stupid stupid statement. Your statement above about "throwing 7 or 8m at a player" is as irrelevant as not having "limitless funds" - what a stupid thing to say - no-one has limitless funds but you are supposing that you know what their funds are and that they are stupid enough to overspend on them. Their business acumen - in the world - to date says that you are talking BS again. And as for not buying 1 striker but buying 2 for a similar amount (wouldn't that be the same problem!!!) why would any team buy two average players instead of 1 good one unless they needed 2 players? Hundreds of them - obviously not. unless Sven and his staff are also complete idiots. Give me ten players that are available for us to buy that would be better than getting Long in - then assure me that these players will come to Leicester for the same or less money and then .... why bother? Your whole post was a piece of BS. BS that wasn't thought through at all. Do me a favour! £8 mill is a rip off, end of. Excuse me for looking beyond a massive short term risk, I remember this club being on the brink not so long ago. And that was without splashing EIGHT MILLION on a player who's never played in the top division! We want good players and good value. Long does not offer both of those. Simple as!
Raw Dykes Posted 30 July 2011 Posted 30 July 2011 Shane Long is a football league striker who had one good season. Before that he was shite. He is currently in the last year of his contract. If the club pay £8m for him, then they look like right mugs. Unless they're trying to show off by unnecessarily overspending.
Guest shearfox Posted 30 July 2011 Posted 30 July 2011 Shane Long is a football league striker who had one good season. Before that he was shite. He is currently in the last year of his contract. If the club pay £8m for him, then they look like right mugs. Unless they're trying to show off by unnecessarily overspending. Reading would have got a shed load of cash from us this summer if we did pay that for him....
sdb Posted 30 July 2011 Posted 30 July 2011 Shane Long is a football league striker who had one good season. Before that he was shite. He is currently in the last year of his contract. If the club pay £8m for him, then they look like right mugs. Unless they're trying to show off by unnecessarily overspending. That's pretty much what i've been trying to say. Cheers. Anyway i'm off now to enjoy an actual football match!!
ROB-THE-BLUE Posted 30 July 2011 Posted 30 July 2011 Reading would have got a shed load of cash from us this summer if we did pay that for him.... And knowing them they'll spend £250,000 on some unknown Irish striker who ends up bagging double the amount that Long does!
Blue Bob Posted 30 July 2011 Posted 30 July 2011 scored today, so thats another million on the asking price!!!
Happy Fox Posted 30 July 2011 Posted 30 July 2011 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/30/leicester-city-real-madrid-friendly? On a sunny summer evening, the 32,000-capacity crowd came to bask in the reflected glory of the visiting luminaries and to celebrate their own club's bright future. José Mourinho showed off his full bejewelled squad and Cristiano Ronaldo and Co dominated an entertaining show, scoring through José Callejón and Karim Benzema before Lloyd Dyer ignited delirium by striking for the hosts with a fine volley in the 88th minute. The result was, of course, incidental. Even the performance was secondary – though manager Sven-Goran Eriksson was pleased that his remodelled defence, which was so porous last term, was only breached twice. What really mattered, perhaps, is that the appearance of Real solidified belief in one possible vision of Leicester – the glamorous one that Thai tycoon Vichai Raksriaksorn had when he bought the club last August for a fee that was undisclosed, but entailed taking over debts of around £26m. Raksriaksorn does not pretend to be a football fan – polo is his true love – and on the website of King Power, the chain of duty-free shops from which he made his fortune and after which Leicester's stadium is now named, he does not conceal that the reason for his acquisition was "to internationally promote the reputation of Thailand and the capability of a Thai company to strengthen an English football club". Therein lies the success of English football: it has become one of the planet's foremost luxury products and, as such, exerts a powerful lure for entrepreneurs from dynamic young countries eager for global validation. Getting Leicester into the Premier League would, then, be a demonstration of Thai excellence. The point seems set to be underlined through the new regime's reign: pre-match entertainment ahead of the Real match was a performance by traditional Thai dancers; the first home match of the season will be preceded by a Muay Thai boxing tournament. All of which seems to be welcomed by Leicester fans. It does, after all, suggest the new owners are committed to making the club successful. As does the fact that, so far, the Thais have backed up their ambitions with expensive ventures into the transfer market, unlike, say, the Asian owners of Birmingham and Blackburn. In addition to paying Real around £1m to come sprinkle magic dust in Leicester (the honour of competing for the inaugural "King Power Challenge Cup" apparently not being sufficient incentive for the nine-times European champions), the Thais have lavished cash as they seek a place in the Premier League. "From the moment my father and I decided to buy the club, we had hoped that Leicester City would face the elite of world football," wrote Aiyawatt Raksriaksorn, the 26-year-old club vice-chairman and son of the owner, in the programme for this match. The zeal with which they have pursued that aim so far has made Leicester many people's favourites for promotion from the Championship this season. Eriksson, who was appointed last October after Paulo Sousa was sacked with the club bottom of the league, guided the team to 10th place last term, their upswing fuelled by purchases such as former England striker Darius Vassell and expensive loan signings such as Yakubu and Kyle Naughton. The departure of those loanees has been more than compensated for by the purchases of 10 new players – the club says the total fees are below the reported figure of £10m, but the salaries offered to men such as Paul Konchesky, signed from Liverpool, are surely vast. Eriksson wants to buy several more players this month, making a striker his priority; a sign of the club's growing status is that they are reported to be prepared to gazump Premier League West Bromwich Albion for Reading's Shane Long. That would probably mean breaking Leicester's transfer record – which remains the £5m paid for Ade Akinbiyi in 2002, a fact that means Leicester fans need no reminding that money does not guarantee success. Mourinho, for one, thinks, this time, Leicester have invested wisely. "I think they will be in the Premier League very, very soon," he said. "I cannot say they are worse than a few of the teams I saw when I was in the Premier league."
sdb Posted 30 July 2011 Posted 30 July 2011 Nice piece by Paul Doyle there. I was chatting to him on Twitter earlier, sure.
Yojoe36 Posted 30 July 2011 Posted 30 July 2011 scored today, so thats another million on the asking price!!! Dyer scored against Real Madrid, so add 3million to his price
Clazie Posted 30 July 2011 Posted 30 July 2011 Dyer scored against Real Madrid, so add 3million to his price So he's worth 3million now?
Woollett's Wellies Posted 30 July 2011 Posted 30 July 2011 So he's worth 3million now? That means he's worth at least 6 million in 'Bristol money'.
That lad from Japan Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 That means he's worth at least 6 million in 'Bristol money'. No hes worth 6 million for every year left on his contract. Get it right
ThurnbyLodgeFox Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/30/leicester-city-real-madrid-friendly? On a sunny summer evening, the 32,000-capacity crowd came to bask in the reflected glory of the visiting luminaries and to celebrate their own club's bright future. José Mourinho showed off his full bejewelled squad and Cristiano Ronaldo and Co dominated an entertaining show, scoring through José Callejón and Karim Benzema before Lloyd Dyer ignited delirium by striking for the hosts with a fine volley in the 88th minute. The result was, of course, incidental. Even the performance was secondary – though manager Sven-Goran Eriksson was pleased that his remodelled defence, which was so porous last term, was only breached twice. What really mattered, perhaps, is that the appearance of Real solidified belief in one possible vision of Leicester – the glamorous one that Thai tycoon Vichai Raksriaksorn had when he bought the club last August for a fee that was undisclosed, but entailed taking over debts of around £26m. Raksriaksorn does not pretend to be a football fan – polo is his true love – and on the website of King Power, the chain of duty-free shops from which he made his fortune and after which Leicester's stadium is now named, he does not conceal that the reason for his acquisition was "to internationally promote the reputation of Thailand and the capability of a Thai company to strengthen an English football club". Therein lies the success of English football: it has become one of the planet's foremost luxury products and, as such, exerts a powerful lure for entrepreneurs from dynamic young countries eager for global validation. Getting Leicester into the Premier League would, then, be a demonstration of Thai excellence. The point seems set to be underlined through the new regime's reign: pre-match entertainment ahead of the Real match was a performance by traditional Thai dancers; the first home match of the season will be preceded by a Muay Thai boxing tournament. All of which seems to be welcomed by Leicester fans. It does, after all, suggest the new owners are committed to making the club successful. As does the fact that, so far, the Thais have backed up their ambitions with expensive ventures into the transfer market, unlike, say, the Asian owners of Birmingham and Blackburn. In addition to paying Real around £1m to come sprinkle magic dust in Leicester (the honour of competing for the inaugural "King Power Challenge Cup" apparently not being sufficient incentive for the nine-times European champions), the Thais have lavished cash as they seek a place in the Premier League. "From the moment my father and I decided to buy the club, we had hoped that Leicester City would face the elite of world football," wrote Aiyawatt Raksriaksorn, the 26-year-old club vice-chairman and son of the owner, in the programme for this match. The zeal with which they have pursued that aim so far has made Leicester many people's favourites for promotion from the Championship this season. Eriksson, who was appointed last October after Paulo Sousa was sacked with the club bottom of the league, guided the team to 10th place last term, their upswing fuelled by purchases such as former England striker Darius Vassell and expensive loan signings such as Yakubu and Kyle Naughton. The departure of those loanees has been more than compensated for by the purchases of 10 new players – the club says the total fees are below the reported figure of £10m, but the salaries offered to men such as Paul Konchesky, signed from Liverpool, are surely vast. Eriksson wants to buy several more players this month, making a striker his priority; a sign of the club's growing status is that they are reported to be prepared to gazump Premier League West Bromwich Albion for Reading's Shane Long. That would probably mean breaking Leicester's transfer record – which remains the £5m paid for Ade Akinbiyi in 2002, a fact that means Leicester fans need no reminding that money does not guarantee success. Mourinho, for one, thinks, this time, Leicester have invested wisely. "I think they will be in the Premier League very, very soon," he said. "I cannot say they are worse than a few of the teams I saw when I was in the Premier league." load of rubbish... it was a sunday evening
wurmer Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 That means he's worth at least 6 million in 'Bristol money'. Nah, 60 mill, and our owners are bazillionaires in 'Bristol £
Staff Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 From sky sports Shane Long admits he would have to consider a move to West Ham United, but insists he would be happy to stay at Reading. The Republic of Ireland striker is being courted by several clubs and the Hammers are understood to have had a £7million offer for Long turned down. Celtic are also interested in the 24-year-old, but Reading have insisted that no clubs have yet matched their valuation of the former Cork City forward. West Ham are weighing up whether to make a renewed bid and Long, who scored over 20 goals last season as Reading lost to Swansea City in the play-off final, acknowledged he would not rule out a move to Upton Park. However, the in-demand hit-man says he is not 'dying' to leave the Madejski Stadium ahead of the Royals' opening game of the new Championship season against Millwall next weekend. Long told the Independent on Sunday: "West Ham are a big club, so it would definitely be something for me to think about. "But I wouldn't be that disappointed if nothing happened and I stayed at Reading. "I'm happy here and I like playing under the manager (Brian McDermott). I'm not dying to get out."
Happy Fox Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 jasonbourne1986 Jason Bourne @ @leicesteriain Sven told us yesterday that he's trying to bring someone in before the Coventry game on Saturday.
That lad from Japan Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 From sky sports Shane Long admits he would have to consider a move to West Ham United, but insists he would be happy to stay at Reading. The Republic of Ireland striker is being courted by several clubs and the Hammers are understood to have had a £7million offer for Long turned down. Celtic are also interested in the 24-year-old, but Reading have insisted that no clubs have yet matched their valuation of the former Cork City forward. West Ham are weighing up whether to make a renewed bid and Long, who scored over 20 goals last season as Reading lost to Swansea City in the play-off final, acknowledged he would not rule out a move to Upton Park. However, the in-demand hit-man says he is not 'dying' to leave the Madejski Stadium ahead of the Royals' opening game of the new Championship season against Millwall next weekend. Long told the Independent on Sunday: "West Ham are a big club, so it would definitely be something for me to think about. "But I wouldn't be that disappointed if nothing happened and I stayed at Reading. "I'm happy here and I like playing under the manager (Brian McDermott). I'm not dying to get out." Just show him the money and that will all change
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