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How so?

You said that anyone who doesn't get angry when we aren't playing well doesn't give a shit. When people get angry with performances, they tend to boo.

What you're saying (even if it is not what you intended to say) is that if people don't boo last night's performance, they don't give a shit.

As for the fans, they should be backing the team. They are supposedly fans (short for fanatics) or supporters - both of which have strong connotations of actually ****ing supporting the team, getting behind them no matter what.

We should be out-singing the away fans as well, particularly when they don't even bring 4 figures like last night. Part of the "home advantage" is created by the fans singing and making the ground an intimidating place to come, our home atmosphere is about as intimidating as a cowardly chihuahua.

And those fans being slated are deserving of it, they are the deluded cvnts who boo after the first sideways pass, who call for the managers head after 2 or 3 games, who find things to gripe at even if we win by 4 or 5. Slating them is not being too quick to get on the fans backs or giving the players too much praise - it's merely a sign of being an actual Leicester fan.

No they don't. I was very angry for the majority of the game last night. The majority of the fans around me were. I don't remember anyone booing our players during the match. Yes, there was booing for the ref, totally fair, and at the final whistle, which indicates our disappointment at the performance of the team and the result, as fans of every team would do with the money we've spent and that performance.

If I implied that if you don't boo you don't give a shit then I certainly didn't mean to. But if you weren't angry, frustrated or at least really disppointed at some point during that match then really, I'd have to ask how much you care (and I'm sure you actually were one of those, you're just missing my point).

You cannot expect fans to sing for the whole game when they're losing or playing rubbish. I don't know about you but I find creating an atmosphere is an enjoyment, not something I should be told to do by these high-and-mighty people who expect certain standards. I'm certainly not enjoying myself when we are losing, and having seen that our loud chanting earlier in the match has had no positive effect on the players whatsoever, I find it difficult to continue vocally 'getting behind the team'. I want to get behind the team, but it's not easy to sing all game when you're nervous about the result. So to expect relentless singing when we're losing is silly.

Were you chanting and clapping on your own then? Surely if you slate the fans for not singing you were setting an example by singing every minute of the game? And if you've got a complaint about atmosphere how about slating the people who sit down, all game, every game? Oh wait, that would be out of order wouldn't it, because they have freedom of choice, whereas those in K and L block don't. :rolleyes:

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Why do you bother coming on here? You clearly have no respect for any other opinion than your own?

People feel cheated by what they've seen tonight - and have EVERY right to do so. There were indeed thieves in our midst at the KP stadium - but they were to be seen on the pitch and in the dugout. Deep down, they don't give a monkey's whether they win or lose as they're all on lucrative contracts so collect their fatcat salaries anyway. They have as much contempt as you do for the fans who fund those cheques.

Tonight my team faced a test of character. It failed that test by some distance. There's no reason why we should be passive about this.

I'd love to know how you could possibly know this.

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No they don't. I was very angry for the majority of the game last night. The majority of the fans around me were. I don't remember anyone booing our players during the match. Yes, there was booing for the ref, totally fair, and at the final whistle, which indicates our disappointment at the performance of the team and the result, as fans of every team would do with the money we've spent and that performance.

If I implied that if you don't boo you don't give a shit then I certainly didn't mean to. But if you weren't angry, frustrated or at least really disppointed at some point during that match then really, I'd have to ask how much you care (and I'm sure you actually were one of those, you're just missing my point).

You cannot expect fans to sing for the whole game when they're losing or playing rubbish. I don't know about you but I find creating an atmosphere is an enjoyment, not something I should be told to do by these high-and-mighty people who expect certain standards. I'm certainly not enjoying myself when we are losing, and having seen that our loud chanting earlier in the match has had no positive effect on the players whatsoever, I find it difficult to continue vocally 'getting behind the team'. So to expect relentless singing when we're losing is silly.

Were you chanting and clapping on your own then? Surely if you slate the fans for not singing you were setting an example by singing every minute of the game? And if you've got a complaint about atmosphere how about slating the people who sit down, all game, every game? Oh wait, that would be out o order wouldn't it, because they have freedom of choice, whereas those in K and L block don't. :rolleyes:

no one forces you to be in L or K, and yes I was singing all game.

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no one forces you to be in L or K, and yes I was singing all game.

Well obviously you expect everyone in L and K to sing all game, a bit unreasonable when some parts of the ground never sing.

I've been to plenty of away grounds and it's worse than ours. Sheffield Wednesday were beating us one season and they were very quiet. Leeds were losing and I didn't hear a peep. St James' Park was quiet when it was 0-0. Sheffield Utd fans last season - I actually couldn't see where their singing section was it was so quiet. Loftus Road we were making all the noise and they were top of the league and shoe ins for promotion. etc, etc.

In fact I think a higher percentage of our home fans create an atmosphere than most in the league, and our away support is very good. Frankly I'm proud of our support in general and I think some fans are out of order slating us.

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Well obviously you expect everyone in L and K to sing all game, a bit unreasonable when some parts of the ground never sing.

I've been to plenty of away grounds and it's worse than ours. Sheffield Wednesday were beating us one season and they were very quiet. Leeds were losing and I didn't hear a peep. St James' Park was quiet when it was 0-0. Sheffield Utd fans last season - I actually couldn't see where their singing section was it was so quiet. Loftus Road we were making all the noise and they were top of the league and shoe ins for promotion. etc, etc.

In fact I think a higher percentage of our home fans create an atmosphere than most in the league, and our away support is very good. Frankly I'm proud of our support in general and I think some fans are out of order slating us.

Actually... I kind of do. Its slightly unreasonable, but if you choose to go and sit there and wear the L1 badge of honour, you should be singing for the majority of the game, regardless of the performance.

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Actually... I kind of do. Its slightly unreasonable, but if you choose to go and sit there and wear the L1 badge of honour, you should be singing for the majority of the game, regardless of the performance.

Ridiculous.

It's not a 'badge of honour', it's a group of fans who enjoy an atmosphere and banter with the away fans so they get a ticket there.

FFS talk about trying to create divisions between fans :rolleyes:

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This is the worst thread yet. I got half way through before the cringe factor became unbearable. Football fans are people who pay (a lot of) money to watch footballers play. There is no burden of responsibility there - it is entertainment. You can sing if you want, or chant. You can sit in absolute silence if you wish. People don't have these conversations at the opera

Posted

Booing worked wonders for Rooney at the world cup.

If you're arguing that booing is why Rooney was so poor then that's a completely irrelevant argument. Equally it could also be seen as Rooney using the booing to justify his sub-standard performances. There were also issues or tiredness and his personal life (which were only later revealed) that could be put forward as factors.

Posted

I agree with the OP.

For the first ever time last night I confronted another Leicester fan. I'm usually pretty laid back and tolerant of our idiots, but this tool, coupled with the poor performance, set me off.

The final whistle goes and some 16/17 year old chav runs down the stairway bumping into me quite hard, whilst booing and swearing, as if trying to get to the pitch.

I turned to him and asked 'why are you booing? what good is it going to do?'

He replied 'This is just shite', to which i replied 'yeah, i know, but booing and swearing at them like that doesn't help does it'.

'It's just so shite' he replied, and walked a few steps backwards, and started laughing at me with his mates for daring to question his behaviour.

We all know it's shite, but seriously, we're three games in and the transfer window isn't closed yet.

We're just embarrassing ourselves, the whole FL was laughing at us last night for booing.

What impression does that give potential new signings? How does that make the players feel who gave it all last night, but didn't perform well enough for whatever reason? Are they going to even bother next time they play in front of these morons? Yeah, probably, but I probably fucking wouldn't.

Be grateful for what we have at the moment ffs.

Posted

Booing is beyond lame.

Jeering at st. Ledger/Maynard/the ref/anyone else like they're some camp panto villain is the only thing more embarrassing than the performance on the pitch.

Posted

I can see the reason for booing at the end, but when you hear complaints after a minute or so you just wonder what these people are there for.

Posted

I think a big clue in this debate is the term Football Supporter! Maybe if enough could show a little faith, that would be one of the keys in turning this poor start around - after all, we have all seen games on tv where the fans have provided that 12th man and helped there team onto win.

Even if people disagree and want a right to boo, why not give this way a try - what have you got to lose, if it doesn't work you can boo loo till your hearts content at the end of the 90?

Think of the team and it's supporters like bra straps - without each others support we'd be useless with boobs falling out all over the shop... Hmmm..... Boobs!

Posted

A 'fan' at the front of the Kop on Saturday spent the entire first half loudly bemoaning every thing the team did, calling them all cnuts and telling Sven to **** off. He completely spoiled the first half for me, and everyone nearby. I was willing us to score so I could turn round and scream HAAA right in his face. Negative git, he clearly was getting no enjoyment from the game. Sounded like a cockney foghorn too.

I was just as frustrated as anyone on Wednesday, but I was screaming my lungs out to try to encourage the team to try and get a goal.

We do have a lot of negative fans, I wish everyone would try and be a bit positive, it won't win the league on its own, but feck me, it will do a lot more good than calling the players every name under the sun if they overhit a through ball or miss hit a shot.

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We're just embarrassing ourselves, the whole FL was laughing at us last night for booing.

No they weren't - they were laughing at the result and performance that had provoked it.

What impression does that give potential new signings? How does that make the players feel who gave it all last night, but didn't perform well enough for whatever reason? Are they going to even bother next time they play in front of these morons? Yeah, probably, but I probably fucking wouldn't.

They have a responsibility to the fans who pay their fatcat salaries. If they fail, individually or collectively, to meet that responsibility they can expect to be advised of that. What's the problem?

Posted

These kind of holier than thou attitudes are more annoying than any amount of booing. If you're so special, why don't you go and build yourself a little cabin by a lake somewhere in Sweden, devote your time to writing a book about how special you are and then come back and try to sell it.

For the millionth time:

1) fans are entitled to boo and shout abuse if they want

2) if the players are sensitive enough to be effected by it then they shouldn't be on the pitch

3) you needn't worry about no. 2 because these are young men getting paid vast sums of money to kick a ball around a field. When a player goes home do you think he sulks and whinges and feels depressed because some fat window fitter called him a twat while he was taking a throw in? No, he drives his £100k sports car back to his £500k house, and then takes his 9/10 wife to the nearest michelin star restaurant where he sips champagne from a diamond encrusted glass. These players DO NOT CARE what the fans think. The sooner you get this into your head the better.

The morons that boo, are not real fans, just a bunch of ill bred yobs, that epitomize the falling standards of society. You are disgrace to our club, and an insult to true Leicester fans.

In the proverbial nutshell, little people, who are incapable of behaving decently.

Posted

To all those whinging about the boos, WHY do you bother following Leicester? You'd obviously be much happier at the Ricoh where the locals applaud their team even after defeats.

OK, Cov have p!sspoor crowds and aren't likely to threaten a promotion challenge any time soon, and the atmosphere at most of their home games is even worse than it is for ours, but none of these issues would bother you. Cos it's about supporting a manager and team, no matter what, eh?

Ah, so real fans boo their side do they? Say no more, mush, what a wonderful philosophy. :frusty: :frusty:

Posted

No point in arguing any more with the likes of Accessory and Kitchandro. All they've done is basically come out and said 'yeah, we're those nobs you're talking about in your post.'

Hi. :wave:

Posted

Can I ask all going today to just sing, sing, sing, (not quoting travis by the way) today as I know most of you will, regardless of what happens and see where it gets us.

Some rousing support from the fans is just the reassurance our starting 11 will need today, going into the lions den. Positive attitudes, positive thoughts, positive everything should transmit to the players in order to give that confidence boost that is so badly needed.

Get a win here and against Bury, we will then have some momentum going into an interesting home game against Southampton - where hopefully no boo's will be required.

Posted

No point in arguing any more with the likes of Accessory and Kitchandro. All they've done is basically come out and said 'yeah, we're those nobs you're talking about in your post.'

Hi. :wave:

No, you're just basically spouting falsehoods and calling Leicester fans ******, which I don't agree with, cheers.

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