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Posted

Missed the game completely. Why was Vassell subbed so early? Injured or tactical (cos clearly it seems we were awful 1st half)?

Injured. Brought a high ball down brilliantly but injured himself in the process.

He was doing okay and nearly scored with a effort blocked on the line.

Posted

first half was pants........

second half was great.....but every time West Ham went forward it looked liked they would score...

ud have 2 agree you dont mind losing when they put that effort in...

think Beckfords gone....

when he was subbed........

its a shame but we dont play to his strengths...

his reaction.....

think play offs....best we can hope for...

leaking way to many goals

Posted

Also, am I the only one who thought there was quite a high tackle on Lloyd Dyer (i think it was him) in the second half... ball was bouncing and he slid in quite high, which wasn't even granted with a freekick?!

Posted

Also, am I the only one who thought there was quite a high tackle on Lloyd Dyer (i think it was him) in the second half... ball was bouncing and he slid in quite high, which wasn't even granted with a freekick?!

That was wihtout question a blatant foul.

And he went off injured becasue of that by the looks of it.

The ref was shite today.

Posted

Cheers. Couldbe out for a while then :(

Honestly don't know. it could have just been a tweek. We'll have to wait and see.

I'd be more worried that Lloyd Dyer's not out for too long. He had a much more positive impact From the angle I had, I could see Lloyd took a knock but couldn't see how bad (it was obviously bad enough to take him off but at the time, I didn't think too bad)

Posted

That was wihtout question a blatant foul.

And he went off injured becasue of that by the looks of it.

The ref was shite today.

I thought exactly the same, and thought it was at least a yellow; was very high... and then he doesn't even give a free-kick.

Posted

First half was shocking, we continued where we had left off against Millwall.

No coherence, no real forward play.

Beckford was a disgrace, never putting any real effort in, just like last Saturday. Nugent is three times the player Beckford is and the fact that a former MK Dons player scored two goals more than the former Everton striker says it all. I don't care whether Beckford thinks that glancing back at your own fans is fancy, quite frankly it's about time the guy showed his market value.

Our midfield played badly during the first 45 minutes, there was once more no creativity, no drive forward, no desire, no pace, nothing.

Four players were all crammed in the middle of the park, canceling each other out.

Vassell showed up as a second left-back in the first half occasionally which had me thinking the magic three-letter word. WTF?

Only after being 2-0 down did the squad show some promise.

But we had to wait a full 30 minutes to witness the first real shot on goal from Leicester - a shot from Sol Bamba. And that says it all about our inability to create anything worthwile.

Backed by a vocal support of 3'000 away fans, the second half was much more of an improvement over the first.

We scored one goal more than West Ham, but their third was all St. Ledger's fault from where I was standing.

Terrible defending and pathetic forward play cost us dearly again. Make no mistake, King's two goals were both quality (the second in particular), but he was anonymous and left without any real impact on the game for most part.

Only with the introduction of Dyer, which pushed Abe to the right, leaving Wellens and King in the middle, did we gain width.

And Howard had more influence during his 40-minute spell than his predecessor in 50 up front.

Distributed and handled the ball nicely - for once left without being called for fouls, which seriously helped him.

I still have the feel that about three players can't really be arsed to play for this club and need a good rollicking.

Motivation is a key issue. It all smells of arrogance.

The second half can count as a glimmer of hope of things to come.

Although one could argue that things can always get worse. We're in dire need of a manager and the more this situation continues, the more of a laughing stock for the league we become.

Which is a real concern for me.

Unless the midfield, motivational and creative issue is not addressed, we will continue to dwindle.

Which will frustrate even more fans and be a massive interference for the owners' plans. Owners who have more talent for dealing with property than taking care of a football club.

Well, the ones who believe in fairytales will continue to do so.

We had the great chance of introducing some much-needed stability to this club under the guidance of an established and wise manager, yet again some folks decide otherwise.

It's going to be a long season.

And we're not going to be promoted.

I think that's a healthier approach than claiming we'd be walking this league, which is quite frankly laughable.

I still consider the fact of getting rid of the manager after 13 games in charge into the new season to be a criminal act.

And as for the ones calling Rob Green a cvnt, I think it was a logical response to the constant taunting from our fans.

At least the guy shows that he's got more passion than a lot of Leicester City FC players.

As for West Ham: Decent ground, shit fans who were hardly singing (only the ones to the left of our end) and with little backspine.

Thanks for spitting onto our fans towards the end. Real character.

Guest Col city fan
Posted

First half was shocking, we continued where we had left off against Millwall.

No coherence, no real forward play.

Beckford was a disgrace, never putting any real effort in, just like last Saturday. Nugent is three times the player

Beckford is and the fact that a former MK Dons player scored two goals more than the former Everton striker says it all. I don't care whether Beckford thinks that glancing back at your own fans is fancy, quite frankly it's about time the guy showed his market value.

Our midfield played badly during the first 45 minutes, there was once more no creativity, no drive forward, no desire, no pace, nothing.

Four players were all crammed in the middle of the park, canceling each other out.

Vassell showed up as a second left-back in the first half occasionally which had me thinking the magic three-letter word. WTF?

Only after being 2-0 down did the squad show some promise.

But we had to wait a full 30 minutes to witness the first real shot on goal from Leicester - a shot from Sol Bamba. And that says it all about our inability to create anything worthwile.

Backed by a vocal support of 3'000 away fans, the second half was much more of an improvement over the first.

We scored one goal more than West Ham, but their third was all St. Ledger's fault from where I was standing.

Terrible defending and pathetic forward play cost us dearly again. Make no mistake, King's two goals were both quality

(the second in particular), but he was anonymous and left without any real impact on the game for most part.

Only with the introduction of Dyer, which pushed Abe to the right, leaving Wellens and King in the middle, did we gain width.

And Howard had more influence during his 40-minute spell than his predecessor in 50 up front.

Distributed and handled the ball nicely - for once left without being called for fouls, which seriously helped him.

I still have the feel that about three players can't really be arsed to play for this club and need a good rollicking.

Motivation is a key issue. It all smells of arrogance.

The second half can count as a glimmer of hope of things to come.

Although one could argue that things can always get worse. We're in dire need of a manager and the more this situation

continues, the more of a laughing stock for the league we become.

Which is a real concern for me.

Unless the midfield, motivational and creative issue is not addressed, we will continue to dwindle.

Which will frustrate even more fans and be a massive

interference for the owners' plans. Owners who have more talent for dealing with property than taking care of a football club.

Well, the ones who believe in fairytales will continue to do so.

We had the great chance of introducing some much-needed stability to this club under the guidance of an established and wise manager, yet again some folks decide otherwise.

It's going to be a long season.

And we're not going to be promoted.

I think that's a healthier approach than claiming we'd be

walking this league, which is quite frankly laughable.

I still consider the fact of getting rid of the manager after 13 games in charge into the new season to be a criminal act.

And as for the ones calling Rob Green a cvnt, I think it was

a logical response to the constant taunting from our fans.

At least the guy shows that he's got more passion than a lot of Leicester City FC players.

As for West Ham: Decent ground, shit fans who were hardly singing (only the ones to the left of our end) and with little backspine.

Thanks for spitting onto our fans towards the end. Real character.

Great, informative post so thank you for that

I agree massively on your point about motivation..

Hopefully that will soon change and the big potential in this squad can be realised..

Posted

Few rows in front of me there was a group of people who kept looking up at the tier above towards the end of the first half. Quite a bit of pointing and whatnot. Anyone know what that was about? Some scum West Ham fans spitting or something?

A young West Ham fan in the upper tier claimed he had lost a bracelet and we had police and stewards coming up and asking if we had seen anything - eventually my lad found it and handed it in to the copper nearby - my lad didn't get a thank-you or kiss my ar*e from anybody. I suggested to the copper that rather than disrupt our viewing of the match he should have left it untill the end of the game and to ask the youth in the upper tier why he was hanging over the edge of the stand in the first place.

Sure enough at the end of the game the same youth complete with bracelet and a couple of his mates were giving the Leicester fans a load as we walked out of the stand - I asked the same copper if he knew the youth in question and the copper replied "no do you?" - I told him to get his priorities right in future and was told unpolitely by him to leave the ground.

Next time I see a worthless bracelet on the floor I'll ignore it and say nothing!

Posted

I've just thought - barely anyone has said about how west ham are decent and not many teams will come away from there with a result.

I think if we had been more disciplined at the back and pressed a little more in the first half then we wouldn't have seen much from them. Most of their attacks came from outnumbering our players when Konch and Pelts bombed forward.

Posted

Injured. He stretched for a ball in the air and looked like he strained his hamstring.

Just caught up on Stowell's post match comments. He said it was Vassell's landing when stretching for the ball. He landed on a straight leg and jarred his knee. Apologies for causing confusion.

Posted

Awful first 25 from us, conceding soft soft goals again. Thought we improved massively after that, with Vass unlucky not to pull us a goal back before H/T.

2nd half was pretty much all us, got back in with a shout through King and then looked to have a stonewall penalty turned down! We then proceed to shoot our ourselves in the foot before laying seige to the West Ham goal for the rest of the half.

Could of won that game easily if we'd been on it from the first whistle, West Ham are no great shakes but will probably get promoted throught teams showing them to much respect.

Terrible support from West Ham too, didnt hear a peep out of them all game, shocking really given the numbers they had standing.

Need 3 points desperately on Tuesday now

Posted

Shit first half. Looked like we shitted ourselves every time we touched the ball, no organisation and West Ham had the ball to easy.

Second half, took a lot from that performance to show that this lot do want to play for Leicester City.

All because of Dyer and big Steve showing no fear, it wasnt pretty but Howard wins the ball 9 times out of 10 and brings panic.

Beckford can do one, that performance was typical of his time at Leicester so far, I don't care if hes not scoring I just want him to challenge for the ball or keep it. I dont know if it is confidence, too much arrogance or perhaps we don't play to his strengths. Give me Steve Howard over Beckford any day of the week, Andy take a bow.

Posted

First half was shocking, we continued where we had left off against Millwall.

No coherence, no real forward play.

Beckford was a disgrace, never putting any real effort in, just like last Saturday. Nugent is three times the player Beckford is and the fact that a former MK Dons player scored two goals more than the former Everton striker says it all. I don't care whether Beckford thinks that glancing back at your own fans is fancy, quite frankly it's about time the guy showed his market value.

Our midfield played badly during the first 45 minutes, there was once more no creativity, no drive forward, no desire, no pace, nothing.

Four players were all crammed in the middle of the park, canceling each other out.

Vassell showed up as a second left-back in the first half occasionally which had me thinking the magic three-letter word. WTF?

Only after being 2-0 down did the squad show some promise.

But we had to wait a full 30 minutes to witness the first real shot on goal from Leicester - a shot from Sol Bamba. And that says it all about our inability to create anything worthwile.

Backed by a vocal support of 3'000 away fans, the second half was much more of an improvement over the first.

We scored one goal more than West Ham, but their third was all St. Ledger's fault from where I was standing.

Terrible defending and pathetic forward play cost us dearly again. Make no mistake, King's two goals were both quality (the second in particular), but he was anonymous and left without any real impact on the game for most part.

Only with the introduction of Dyer, which pushed Abe to the right, leaving Wellens and King in the middle, did we gain width.

And Howard had more influence during his 40-minute spell than his predecessor in 50 up front.

Distributed and handled the ball nicely - for once left without being called for fouls, which seriously helped him.

I still have the feel that about three players can't really be arsed to play for this club and need a good rollicking.

Motivation is a key issue. It all smells of arrogance.

The second half can count as a glimmer of hope of things to come.

Although one could argue that things can always get worse. We're in dire need of a manager and the more this situation continues, the more of a laughing stock for the league we become.

Which is a real concern for me.

Unless the midfield, motivational and creative issue is not addressed, we will continue to dwindle.

Which will frustrate even more fans and be a massive interference for the owners' plans. Owners who have more talent for dealing with property than taking care of a football club.

Well, the ones who believe in fairytales will continue to do so.

We had the great chance of introducing some much-needed stability to this club under the guidance of an established and wise manager, yet again some folks decide otherwise.

It's going to be a long season.

And we're not going to be promoted.

I think that's a healthier approach than claiming we'd be walking this league, which is quite frankly laughable.

I still consider the fact of getting rid of the manager after 13 games in charge into the new season to be a criminal act.

And as for the ones calling Rob Green a cvnt, I think it was a logical response to the constant taunting from our fans.

At least the guy shows that he's got more passion than a lot of Leicester City FC players.

As for West Ham: Decent ground, shit fans who were hardly singing (only the ones to the left of our end) and with little backspine.

Thanks for spitting onto our fans towards the end. Real character.

He had 3/4 of last season as well, plus a pre-season and unlimited funds to build a table-topping team.

We weren't playing well under him, we weren't getting results under him.

Why are people refusing to accept that Sven was just the same as Allen, Megson etc. Just not good enough.

Guest Col city fan
Posted

He had 3/4 of last season as well, plus a pre-season and unlimited funds to build a table-topping team.

We weren't playing well under him, we weren't getting results under him.

Why are people refusing to accept that Sven was just the

same as Allen, Megson etc. Just not good enough.

Claridge was again very honest tonight about Sven.. That he was never convinced about his appointment and that he 'wasn't surprised' things have turned out how they have..

This didn't seem to be said with any axe to grind.. Just came across as this was what he thought

Posted

1st half = Awful.

2nd half = Much better actually proud of my team, and I don't think i've ever seen them like that under Sven, well maybe thats a little OTT but i've not seen them perform many time like that under Sven.

Beckford, I'm sorry but perhaps Sven deserved sacked soley on that signing, Shite.

Disappointed, hugely disappointed and a loss is never a good result but considering think 3-2 is about right.

A draw is the besr we could have hoped for, and for once I will blame the ref for not giving us the chance to make it a draw as we had a clear cut penalty, whether we scored is another matter,

As for West Ham being this great away day for pubs, e.t.c, it was shite - Gonna ignore the hype of great away day piss ups from now on because they've been crap everytime.

Also, anyone gonna complain for Rob Green OTT celebrations? Don't get me wrong i'd laugh if it was Kasper winding the away fans up, but if I was closer the pitch no doubt it would have incited me and I'd have attempted to catch him and KO him, Much worse than anyone taking their shirt off in celebration of a goal.

EDIT - I don't care what people say about Stevie, he makes the difference, he fights, and that showed in arguably our 2 best performances this season, 2nd half v Derby and 2nd half v West Ham.

Posted

First half was shocking, we continued where we had left off against Millwall.

No coherence, no real forward play.

Beckford was a disgrace, never putting any real effort in, just like last Saturday. Nugent is three times the player Beckford is and the fact that a former MK Dons player scored two goals more than the former Everton striker says it all. I don't care whether Beckford thinks that glancing back at your own fans is fancy, quite frankly it's about time the guy showed his market value.

Our midfield played badly during the first 45 minutes, there was once more no creativity, no drive forward, no desire, no pace, nothing.

Four players were all crammed in the middle of the park, canceling each other out.

Vassell showed up as a second left-back in the first half occasionally which had me thinking the magic three-letter word. WTF?

Only after being 2-0 down did the squad show some promise.

But we had to wait a full 30 minutes to witness the first real shot on goal from Leicester - a shot from Sol Bamba. And that says it all about our inability to create anything worthwile.

Backed by a vocal support of 3'000 away fans, the second half was much more of an improvement over the first.

We scored one goal more than West Ham, but their third was all St. Ledger's fault from where I was standing.

Terrible defending and pathetic forward play cost us dearly again. Make no mistake, King's two goals were both quality (the second in particular), but he was anonymous and left without any real impact on the game for most part.

Only with the introduction of Dyer, which pushed Abe to the right, leaving Wellens and King in the middle, did we gain width.

And Howard had more influence during his 40-minute spell than his predecessor in 50 up front.

Distributed and handled the ball nicely - for once left without being called for fouls, which seriously helped him.

I still have the feel that about three players can't really be arsed to play for this club and need a good rollicking.

Motivation is a key issue. It all smells of arrogance.

The second half can count as a glimmer of hope of things to come.

Although one could argue that things can always get worse. We're in dire need of a manager and the more this situation continues, the more of a laughing stock for the league we become.

Which is a real concern for me.

Unless the midfield, motivational and creative issue is not addressed, we will continue to dwindle.

Which will frustrate even more fans and be a massive interference for the owners' plans. Owners who have more talent for dealing with property than taking care of a football club.

Well, the ones who believe in fairytales will continue to do so.

We had the great chance of introducing some much-needed stability to this club under the guidance of an established and wise manager, yet again some folks decide otherwise.

It's going to be a long season.

And we're not going to be promoted.

I think that's a healthier approach than claiming we'd be walking this league, which is quite frankly laughable.

I still consider the fact of getting rid of the manager after 13 games in charge into the new season to be a criminal act.

And as for the ones calling Rob Green a cvnt, I think it was a logical response to the constant taunting from our fans.

At least the guy shows that he's got more passion than a lot of Leicester City FC players.

As for West Ham: Decent ground, shit fans who were hardly singing (only the ones to the left of our end) and with little backspine.

Thanks for spitting onto our fans towards the end. Real character.

Just got back. I was just about to write almost exactly the same thing!

Beckford just doesn't look as if he wants to be at the club, no effort, didn't challenge for a single aerial ball all day.

Yeah our midfield just seemed to be voyeurs as the ball came from defence to aimless punts upfield to no one and back again.

Konchesky seemed to be caught out of position so many times and really cost us, as almost every single attack they had was down the left.

We probably would have shipped another 4 or 5 goals if it hadn't been for Sol, but we relied on him far too much.

Kasper really deserved the armband today instead of Wellens, he led the team huddle before kick and seemed to be the only one giving a damn at some points. He was almost on the halfway line barking orders at one point.

It was good to see Peltier having a word with Rob Green after the final whistle but to be fair he took alot of abuse throughout.

Steve Howard comes in for some stick but he genuinely turned our game when we started hitting it high up to him.

Posted

Beckford can do one, that performance was typical of his time at Leicester so far, I don't care if hes not scoring I just want him to challenge for the ball or keep it. I dont know if it is confidence, too much arrogance or perhaps we don't play to his strengths.

This might sound weird but I think he's actually not that confident cuz the pressure is on him and he can't live up to our expectations so he overcompensates by acting in such an arrogant, tetchy fashion. His histrionics today were because he just wasn't good enough to play himself into the game and he knew it.

You'd think a guy who was playing for Wealdstone 6 years ago would relish every game at this level and play every game as a professional as though he was making up for lost time. Like Kevin Phillips did when he stepped up from non-league and Chris Smalling is now. Not JB though, he plays like someone who has been found out at this level but who doesn't have the desire or work ethic to do anything about it.

I hope I've got him all wrong.

Posted

Well, I was right, yet again. A good effort in the end but looking at the bigger picture, we have once again left empty handed.

The first half was just a total and utter embarrassment. Towards the end of it we played up a bit but my fvcking god, to let in two goals as soft and as quick as that, jesus christ, who the hell does that twice in under a minute? When Faubert put their second in I thought great, another big away day potential, ONCE AGAIN ruined by the fvcking dross on the pitch.

But, there was a difference. We actually did something in the second half. We came out fighting and motivated, under Sven we'd have been hit for 3 or 4, credit to Stowell for giving them a kick up the arse.

Andy King, brilliant from him. Yes he didn't do much apart from his goals but there's simply no way you can deny the performance of anyone with a brace, funny how Stowell's got more goals from him this season than Sven did, but there you go.

Jermaine Beckford needs to have a serious look at himself. In-fact once again, this was just so, so predictable. Slow start, cockiness, trying all the tricks v Brighton to get the fans on-side and ultimately not give a shit for the majority of the time. Whilst I've not written him off (although I ought to, I did with Yakubu and he banged the fvckers in after), he needs to seriously up his game and I'll be disappointed if he's even on the bench on Tuesday, an absolute embarrassment. Didn't cheer when he was subbed but fvcking hell.

At the same time, I also don't believe we should start with Howard. Controversial I know but I think we ultimately shouldn't change a plan B into a plan A, because where's our plan B then? Go to Burnley on Tuesday, attack these fvckers, yes they've hit some form but we can win this game, if we're struggling to outplay them, resort to Howard and long-ball. It's harsh on Howard because his attitude and his efficiency you just cannot fault for one second, but he's not a stylish player lets be honest and I think long-ball to him should be our last resort. Dyer, on the other hand, should start. Only having one natural winger though, it really is just abysmal. Dyer's another I'd rather bring off the bench but we simply have no other options, he was a breath of fresh air today.

Glad we'll have Mills back for Tuesday, SSL I simply do not rate although I'm sure we'll be seeing him again soon with Bamba on 4 yellows. A back-line of Peltier, Bamba, Mills and Konchesky, how many has that actually conceded whilst in play? Genuinely reckon it's no more than 3.

Rob Green. lol To be honest I don't blame him in a way but it is completely unprofessional, would've been hilarious if the bottle whacked him straight in the face though.

The ref - well I genuinely believe there's something iffy going on. I simply cannot believe on an even playing field we've not had a penalty all season based on some of these challenges, seriously, not even one? That's extremely odd. We've had a lot like today, which was far from nailed on (it may have been but my view wasn't brilliant) but why do we never ever get the rub of the green in these situations? Ever? Seriously, ridiculous.

Good to see us coming out fighting, just absolutely typical that we've come out with nothing, again. I'm not too down as we've displayed some character today which is a positive, but we've got a lot of work to do, Stowell can take some pride, certainly did a better job than Sven's done this year. This game was a write-off from the start, any point was a bonus. Managerless and going to West Ham, pft.

Impressed with some of that, the first half was a disgrace but glad we came out fighting (well, some of them). We move on to Burnley.

Posted

Hello all,

Hammer here, unlucky yesterday, second half you really could have gone on to get a point.

However i have to argue all your claims of Rob green being OTT. You are football fans, you all booed him, give a little abuse (the usual)...but lobbing a coin because he made a clanger in the world cup? get over yourselves! if you can give it, and throw coins and cant take it, because he gives a little back after a win then it shows how two bob your lot are. Always thought you had a good fan base but you really made yourselves out to be proper muggy yesterday.

He will not be the last player to take abuse from fans and give some back after a win...its called banter! He didnt exactly lob a coin did he, just give it some for winning the match..

Posted

The result was about as reasonable as we could have expected at Upton Park without a manager or captain. Even the MON side lost four games out of four there.

It would have helped, though, if we'd had a midfielder on the pitch who could actually make a tackle. Abe, Wellens and King were outclassed for the first hour and it was only when Howard came on we started to be seriously competitive. Sometimes there are games where it definitely helps to have a Plan B, and this was one of them. How ironic that a Sam Allardyce side should be so unnerved by a bit of hoofball.

I was sat up high in the main stand, so didn't hear the stick Beckford got while being taken off. But a player on his salary, who so flagrantly disrespected the shirt for the second game in a row, should expect a reaction. A few more appearances like that will see him following Sven out of the door at the Way - and deservedly so. At the moment he is a liability who should not be indulged with the luxury of a place on the bench, let alone the starting eleven. Schlupp or even Gallagher would offer a lot more to the side.

We showed enough spirit in the last 20 minutes to suggest we should get at least a point at Burnley, especially with Mills back to bolster the defence, A positive result there, together with a win against Leeds next week, would help to set our season back on track.

Posted

Hello all,

Hammer here, unlucky yesterday, second half you really could have gone on to get a point.

However i have to argue all your claims of Rob green being OTT. You are football fans, you all booed him, give a little abuse (the usual)...but lobbing a coin because he made a clanger in the world cup? get over yourselves! if you can give it, and throw coins and cant take it, because he gives a little back after a win then it shows how two bob your lot are. Always thought you had a good fan base but you really made yourselves out to be proper muggy yesterday.

He will not be the last player to take abuse from fans and give some back after a win...its called banter! He didnt exactly lob a coin did he, just give it some for winning the match..

How are the ICF these days ? :D

Posted

Hello all,

Hammer here, unlucky yesterday, second half you really could have gone on to get a point.

However i have to argue all your claims of Rob green being OTT. You are football fans, you all booed him, give a little abuse (the usual)...but lobbing a coin because he made a clanger in the world cup? get over yourselves! if you can give it, and throw coins and cant take it, because he gives a little back after a win then it shows how two bob your lot are. Always thought you had a good fan base but you really made yourselves out to be proper muggy yesterday.

He will not be the last player to take abuse from fans and give some back after a win...its called banter! He didnt exactly lob a coin did he, just give it some for winning the match..

Sorry mate don't speak cockney, care to explain those phrases in proper english??

And if we were "proper muggy" whatever that means yesterday, what would you call your fans spitting on the away end then?

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