MPH Posted 1 February 2012 Posted 1 February 2012 I would just like to read your comments on the Referees performance in tonights game. Thats all.
Jimothy Posted 1 February 2012 Posted 1 February 2012 He's always going to say the referee gives it as he sees it. He has to give what he thinks he sees blah blah blah. What I would be really interested in is his view on the ref walking into to the dressing room, uninvited, without knocking and interrupting the half-time team talk. If he can defend that, he can defend anything.
Dan Posted 1 February 2012 Posted 1 February 2012 "Everyone makes mistakes", yeh, but not everyone, who's qualified to not make mistakes, makes that many in that space of time. There's no defending his actions tonight, absolutely disgraceful.
Matt Posted 1 February 2012 Posted 1 February 2012 He's always going to say the referee gives it as he sees it. He has to give what he thinks he sees blah blah blah. What I would be really interested in is his view on the ref walking into to the dressing room, uninvited, without knocking and interrupting the half-time team talk. If he can defend that, he can defend anything. It's been proven in the past that he can defend the indefensible.
Culletonfox Posted 1 February 2012 Posted 1 February 2012 Shocking performance!! Totally clueless! I challenge any ref to top that performance......
Jimmy Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 he won't post in this, but will post a load of drivel next time we get a 50-50 pen in our favour
MPH Posted 2 February 2012 Author Posted 2 February 2012 he won't post in this, but will post a load of drivel next time we get a 50-50 pen in our favour ah well... its worth a try....
Fox92 Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 I do think that referee's have a hard job. I don't like to point the finger at them too much, because some times, the performance of the team hasn't been good enough regardless of the referee. Having said that, all I ask for is consistancy. Consistant referee's are a must, but no referee I have ever seen is consistant. And yesterday was another example. 4 City players booked, yet none for Middlesbrough when they kept fouling. In addition to this, I think the referee was totally wrong to barge in on Pearson's team talk. Nobody should be allowed to do that, especially the referee. Surely that is against the rules? I hope Pearson wins his battle and the referee get's done or something. I know DB11 is a referee and he will mostly back referee's up, but, I woud like to see his thought's on the dressing room incident in particular last night.
m00nie Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 He's always going to say the referee gives it as he sees it. He has to give what he thinks he sees blah blah blah. What I would be really interested in is his view on the ref walking into to the dressing room, uninvited, without knocking and interrupting the half-time team talk. If he can defend that, he can defend anything. thats just NP side of the story, tbh we dont really know what went on..
MrSpaM Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 I dont think NP would have reacted the way he did if he didnt have something to go on. In his eyes the ref has blatently done something he shouldnt have done, otherwise I think Pearson would have just kept his mouth shut.
Fox92 Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 thats just NP side of the story, tbh we dont really know what went on.. Do you really think Nigel is the sort of person to lie? He doesn't come across like that. I cannot see him telling a lie in a situation such as this one. I mean, he has said he will fight it untill the end so I do think that happened and it is very wrong. Stringer asked to speak to the referee but he said no, what does that say? If he didn't do it, he would have come on air and said. Well, I would of if that was me.
m00nie Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 Do you really think Nigel is the sort of person to lie? He doesn't come across like that. I cannot see him telling a lie in a situation such as this one. I mean, he has said he will fight it untill the end so I do think that happened and it is very wrong. Stringer asked to speak to the referee but he said no, what does that say? If he didn't do it, he would have come on air and said. Well, I would of if that was me. since when do referees come out and talk about instances anyway? its very very rare. so i wouldnt read much into that. whilst the ref had a poor night on the pitch theres always 2 sides to a story of what happened off it.
StanSP Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 Stringer was chasing a lost cause asking for Ward to come out and speak. Pretty sure the FA made a rule perhaps a few years ago that referees can't talk about the match or any incidents within. The FA don't like to publicly criticise their employees (referee Ward) so I can't see them coming out and saying how bad the performance was. Football League referees are given games across all 3 divisions. If the FA do take action, we'll see it after this weekends set of games (he's got Swindon vs Burton on Saturday which was arranged before our match). He might be internally punished at the most, and we will most likely see Pearson warned about future conduct - pretty sure his track record in the past is a clean one; he rarely mouths off in such a way.
Houdini Logic Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 He's always going to say the referee gives it as he sees it. He has to give what he thinks he sees blah blah blah. So you don't think that was the case? What do you think were behind his decisions in that case?
Matt Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 I take it he's doing an Arsene Wenger with this thread then? He hasn't seen it, or ignoring it. I'm not forcing this thread for him to answer at the end of the day it's not his fault but he does like explaining or excusing referees decision and would love to hear what he thought of the referee Wednesday and what he thinks of the situation that happened at half-time.
Webbo Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 Danny didn't ref that game. Any attempt to blame him for this or any other refereeing decision is frankly pathetic. Move on.
accessory Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 It's a genuine enquiry to a referee asking for his view (and a possible explanation) of recent events which have left many of us enraged. No-one on here attaches any blame to DB11 personally and any insinuation to the contrary is plainly absurd. But maybe the FA have forced him into a vow of silence.
Jobberz_Boyz Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 Is DB11 THE Dave bullen? referee, willy puller whatever you wanna call him!
DB11 Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 He's always going to say the referee gives it as he sees it. He has to give what he thinks he sees blah blah blah. What I would be really interested in is his view on the ref walking into to the dressing room, uninvited, without knocking and interrupting the half-time team talk. If he can defend that, he can defend anything. From experience, I'd suggest that the bells were rang to tell the teams to come out, around 13 minutes after they entered the dressing room, M'boro came out fine but Leicester were still not coming out. Ok, the assistant will knock on the door... no response. He'll knock again... still no response so the referee 'takes over' opens the door and shouts "Come on lads let's get going now" and then NP said whatever he said. I do not think the referee would have just barged in unexpected. And with regards to any decision making, I have only watched two Leicester games this season It's safe to say I don't watch anymore as I'm busy on Saturdays but I just follow on radio / catch up so I don't see any refereeing decisions live. I only offer my opinion from a refereeing perspective, to try and balance it out. I can see it from a supporter's perspective, but that's just repeating what everyone else says Is DB11 THE Dave bullen? referee, willy puller whatever you wanna call him! No I'm most certainly not him, and quite glad of it too... DB = Dannyboy
Craig Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 From experience, I'd suggest that the bells were rang to tell the teams to come out, around 13 minutes after they entered the dressing room, M'boro came out fine but Leicester were still not coming out. Ok, the assistant will knock on the door... no response. He'll knock again... still no response so the referee 'takes over' opens the door and shouts "Come on lads let's get going now" and then NP said whatever he said. I do not think the referee would have just barged in unexpected. And with regards to any decision making, I have only watched two Leicester games this season It's safe to say I don't watch anymore as I'm busy on Saturdays but I just follow on radio / catch up so I don't see any refereeing decisions live. I only offer my opinion from a refereeing perspective, to try and balance it out. I can see it from a supporter's perspective, but that's just repeating what everyone else says No I'm most certainly not him, and quite glad of it too... DB = Dannyboy Cheers Dave.
Corky Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 DannyBoy speaks for all referees, so we can blame him if they're shit.
DB11 Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 You guys asked my opinion It's by no means conclusive of what happened
Jimothy Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 From experience, I'd suggest that the bells were rang to tell the teams to come out, around 13 minutes after they entered the dressing room, M'boro came out fine but Leicester were still not coming out. Ok, the assistant will knock on the door... no response. He'll knock again... still no response so the referee 'takes over' opens the door and shouts "Come on lads let's get going now" and then NP said whatever he said. I do not think the referee would have just barged in unexpected. And with regards to any decision making, I have only watched two Leicester games this season It's safe to say I don't watch anymore as I'm busy on Saturdays but I just follow on radio / catch up so I don't see any refereeing decisions live. I only offer my opinion from a refereeing perspective, to try and balance it out. I can see it from a supporter's perspective, but that's just repeating what everyone else says No I'm most certainly not him, and quite glad of it too... DB = Dannyboy I think your response to the first point highlights the problem of refs being in no way accountable. The only version of events we have is Pearson's and that was that the ref barged into the room uninvited, having had no previous knock or bell ring and he told him in no uncertain terms to do one. He also mentions he wouldn't be spoken to in the manner he was, which indicates the ref was rude to him, not a "Come on lads let's get going now". Now these are the only version of events offered to us. The ref hasn't been interviewed, we don't get to see match reports, we get nothing from the ref. So is it any wonder where the resentment, hatred and constant questioning comes from. We have a decision whereby our manager has been sent to the stand and the only version of that event is from the manager. I want to hear the refs version, or at least see his report. I want to know what our manager did to justify being banished. Same with yesterday, I wasn't in Brighton, but I'm sure many who were there have no idea why Beckford was sent off. As the ref won't be questioned, and we won't see the report, we'll never ever know. Again people start to question the refs integrity, his ability and the hatred begins. The fact that the FA have said no further action would be taken would indicate to me that Pearson did no wrong. If he told the ref to "**** off" in the version of event you describe above then I'm pretty sure the FA would have at least gave him a couple games touchline ban, especially when you add in the fact he, no matter how polite, bad mouthed the ref in the post match interview. So the events you describe above almost certainly won't have happened. So why can't we find out what did? Why won't the FA tell us? Why are we not allowed to be made aware of the incompetence of the people that officiate our game? Until the refs become more accessible and we're given the reasons behind their decisions, the game might as well be officiated by a monkey with a whistle.
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