Kitchandro Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 I agree that the season has been very disappointing so far but I also believe that we have the players to get us out of this league. Sven seemed unable to mould his players into a cohesive unit and motivate them, NP is showing signs that he is able to do this. There have been recent improvements, individually and collectively and the more time Pearson gets to make his mark, the better we will become. Going up this season is looking increasingly unlikely but I'm not giving up just yet, nor am I giving up on certain players such as SSL,Mills, Beckford, Danns etc who have all shown improved performances of late. I know you are an advocate of NP too, so have a little faith that he will get the best out of the likes of Mills and equally, will dispose of those not pulling their weight. He is very good at building a side, he started slowly at Hull but after a while started to transform them into a good side, he will do the same here. You can't be serious. How many of them have been consitently good this season? Kasper, Nugent, Konchesky and Bamba in the main, that's about it. Lets look at the players who started today. Dyer - not good enough, never has been in this league. Wellens - past it, been poor all season. Mills - average, inconsistent, poor captain material, can't pass, can't deal with pace. SSL - average Peltier - Has been very poor for some time now after a good start to the season Danns - average Beckford - on his day yes very dangerous, but the fact still remains that he's only really shown any form in the last 5 games, it's inconclusive. Then others. Marshall - unproven Gallagher - I've defended him but he's been shocking in some recent games, inconsistent King - Useless this season Morgan - ? Howard - Past it TBH I wouldn't have most of those anywhere near the starting line-up if I wanted to get promoted, there's little evidence to suggest we've got the players for promotion based on how they've played this season. We still lack creativity and haven't seemed to have bought the specific players to solve this, and if we have, not enough of them. Still quite a bit of work to do IMO, there's a reason we haven't won 2 in a row all season. It's not just going to all click into place, this season is most likely unsaveable and it's heartbreaking having to admit that, but we've all feared so for some time.
Cropwellfox Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 We might just achieve back to back wins before the season is out, but that's about it. I had written the season off after Barnsley, and five home league games without a win is nearer relegation than promotion form. Better the problems with individuals and squad are brought home this year so the owners are clear on the amount of change still required, and lets not kid ourselves there is a load of work to do. We have also had more than our fair share of bad injuries to strikers, dodgy decisions and bad discipline which hopefully won't follow us into next season. How we are still in a position where a run into playoffs is in principle possible just shows what a generally poor division it has been this term. The problem is we haven't won at home since November and are still as inconsistent in performances as ever. Write it off, get to 50 pts, test out which fringe players are worth keeping, give some of the kids some game time and work out exactly what's needed to be done in the summer. With becks possibly out for the cup game too now that's made a tough job even harder. ****ing rediculous - season that promised more than ever delivered nothing but frustration.
Mack Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 I've not read this but in my opinion the season is far from over. I get sick and tired of Radio Leicester being far too hasty in suggesting our season is done. What we need is a run of games, I agree it's a steep curve but it's certainly not impossible. Hopefully it will all start with Beckford getting his red card successfully appealed.
gosfox Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 Typical Leicester really.....get knocked out of the League so that we can concentrate on the Cup :scarf:
blueharmie Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 Season is done. No way we are getting play offs. 10th at best. Players need to take a long hard look at themselves. Luckily we have Pearson who can kick them into gear. We have players who have to go. Gally, wellens , dyer to name a few. They just are not players you need trying to achieve promotion.
flowwolf Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 Doable but not realistic. Too much grond to make up for me whilst we arent good enough. You been on the piss ?
Len Finsbury Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 Can those who suggest we 'scrap this season' just answer me this question, please? Exactly how do you 'scrap' a season? Do we withdraw ourselves from the league?
Danny the Fox 95 Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 Very dissapointed with how the season has gone. No passion really apart from Konchesky, Kasper and Nugent. Many seem to lack confidence and try to beat a player. Just hoping for promotion next season which won't happen. The best thats going to happen this season is a good cup run, and a 8-10th place finish.
Guest shearfox Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 Nope we are still in the FA Cup, play offs look unlikely but still 17 games to play in the league...
Happy Fox Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 We haven't been good enough this season, only two performances where we shone and had the look of automatic promotion contenders and they were against Dierby at home and Southampton away.
Wherethefoxhat? Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 Personally it's a big ask for me and if we DO get into the playoffs then other teams are going to have to falter badly. Sure, some teams will do exactly that, but will enough of them? Will the owners be patient with Pearson? In fact, if we can get into the playoffs this season, then Pearson will have to be up there with O'Neill and Gillies. I'm guess most of you will be as dispondent as me. FFS ...............
Foxes Blue Blood Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 The season is not over, it is still about playing as a team with passion, it's about learning to keep your mouth shut to avoid the cards, it's about tackling hard but fair, again to avoid the cards. If we can play like we have on very few occasions then we might still be in the mix at the end of the season but if we are not then as long as we have learnt those few lessons we will be stronger next season ready for the big push. We need a settled Management team and only a few new players, otherwise we will be further back than we are now.
hackenbacker Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 Good! Now that we are (mostly) in agreement who's going to be first to start the Next Season? thread .. lots of questions to be answered Where will Howard, Wellens, Tunch go? Will Kasper or Pelts go to the PL? What'll happen to Mills and Bamba? Maynard? Sharp? Will Gallagher take kung fu lessons pre season (to toughen him up)? Bring it on!!
Happy Fox Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 Good! Now that we are (mostly) in agreement who's going to be first to start the Next Season? thread .. lots of questions to be answered Where will Howard, Wellens, Tunch go? Will Kasper or Pelts go to the PL? What'll happen to Mills and Bamba? Maynard? Sharp? Will Gallagher take kung fu lessons pre season (to toughen him up)? Bring it on!! You need not worry about those two Maynard is at West Ham and Sharp at Southampton.
Fox1651 Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 We have about as much chance of going up as i have of giving Cameron Diaz the best 30 seconds of her life
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 You been on the piss ? Why do you seriously think we are good enough?
Narborough Bod Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 Not impossible if you set yourself targets. Be within 6 points of play offs at end of Feb, within 3 points at end of March, 3 points to make up in final month. Achievable? Yes. Likely? No. But you have to keep hoping...
Guest Col city fan Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 We just aren't good enough.... Whilst watching the Championship last night, albeit in a pissed state, it was clear that some of the better sides in this division actually have some very good players. Blackpool, for example, have got a great young player in Matt Phillips and a great old player in Kevin Phillips West Ham have got Carlton Cole... A top player at this level... Collison, Noble, Nolan... All strong Championship players The Saints brought on Billy Sharp as a sub yesterday. Cardiff have a superb striker in Kenny Miller and possibly the best midfielder in the division in Whittingham. Even Burnley look to have a great striker in Jay Rodriguez I think we have considerably underestimated the competition this year AND we have assembled a pretty average squad of players by comparison. I genuinely think that either Pearson must do a turn around with the same magnitude as did Martin ONeil.. Or we need a radical improvement to the existing squad. If neither of these two happen we could be languishing at this level for some time. Finally, and I don't care saying it.. I believe it was Sven who has missed possibly the best opportunity we have had in many years to meaningfully improve the general ability of our squad of players. I think he's screwed this chance up big time.
Happy Fox Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 We just aren't good enough.... Whilst watching the Championship last night, albeit in a pissed state, it was clear that some of the better sides in this division actually have some very good players. Blackpool, for example, have got a great young player in Matt Phillips and a great old player in Kevin Phillips West Ham have got Carlton Cole... A top player at this level... Collison, Noble, Nolan... All strong Championship players The Saints brought on Billy Sharp as a sub yesterday. Cardiff have a superb striker in Kenny Miller and possibly the best midfielder in the division in Whittingham. Even Burnley look to have a great striker in Jay Rodriguez I think we have considerably underestimated the competition this year AND we have assembled a pretty average squad of players by comparison. I genuinely think that either Pearson must do a turn around with the same magnitude as did Martin ONeil.. Or we need a radical improvement to the existing squad. If neither of these two happen we could be languishing at this level for some time. Finally, and I don't care saying it.. I believe it was Sven who has missed possibly the best opportunity we have had in many years to meaningfully improve the general ability of our squad of players. I think he's screwed this chance up big time. Mixture of both the Thais for giving him so much money and probably the advise of Andrew Neville, in sanctioning some stupid deals i.e Matt Mills, and Sven for not truly understanding the requirements of this league.
Salieri Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 You can't be serious. How many of them have been consitently good this season? Kasper, Nugent, Konchesky and Bamba in the main, that's about it. Lets look at the players who started today. Dyer - not good enough, never has been in this league. Wellens - past it, been poor all season. Mills - average, inconsistent, poor captain material, can't pass, can't deal with pace. SSL - average Peltier - Has been very poor for some time now after a good start to the season Danns - average Beckford - on his day yes very dangerous, but the fact still remains that he's only really shown any form in the last 5 games, it's inconclusive. Then others. Marshall - unproven Gallagher - I've defended him but he's been shocking in some recent games, inconsistent King - Useless this season Morgan - ? Howard - Past it TBH I wouldn't have most of those anywhere near the starting line-up if I wanted to get promoted, there's little evidence to suggest we've got the players for promotion based on how they've played this season. We still lack creativity and haven't seemed to have bought the specific players to solve this, and if we have, not enough of them. Still quite a bit of work to do IMO, there's a reason we haven't won 2 in a row all season. It's not just going to all click into place, this season is most likely unsaveable and it's heartbreaking having to admit that, but we've all feared so for some time. i stand by what I said. Look at some of the sides that have gained promotion in recent years, not always packed with great players were they? More a case of organised very well by managers who knew how to get the best of what was at their disposal. This squad for me should be good enough to get us up but for varying reasons have not performed anywhere near to the level they should be, that is where a good manager earns his corn and hopefully Pearson can be the man to get the best out of these players. There are players here who have excelled at other clubs yet have only sporadically shown what they are capable of during their time here. (Danns, Mills, Beckford to name but 3) Get them organised and motivated and we can be a match for anyone in this league, the Southampton match being a case in point. If we could maintain that level of commitment and intensity in every match then you can't tell me we wouldn't be there or thereabouts. I'm not a blind optimist, I think going up this season is a very big ask and the players do need to take the majority of the blame as they have woefully underperformed but I just hope the owners remain patient with Nige as I believe he will get us up, next year if not this.
yag101 Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 I dont think its about spirit and work -rate...this has become a lot better recently. Drinkwater looks like he's gonna be a major player for Leicester into the future. We have had no luck either to be fair... some of the reffing performances I've seen this season have been possibly the worst I've ever seen. However, this can be seen as excuses I guess... IMO our squad of players, beginning with some of Sven's signings, have simply not been of sufficient quality to gain promotion. And some of Pearson's 'old guard' do need replacing. IMO the likes of Mills, Danns, Gally and Wellens are just not good enough players to get out of this division. We can focus on 'spirit', 'luck', 'tactics' and 'refs' all we like.... if the players we have at hand don't have the ability to win more games than they lose then we will not succeed. I think this may be the problem.. Hope I'm wrong. With the right tactics, team selection, and coaching, you can get the most out of any bunch of players. To say that the guys capable of destroying teams last season are at fault for the poor style of play at times this season is unfair on the players, sometimes you just have to look at the coaching staff. Pearson's a traditional old school manager, and a former centre half, not sure if that's what a club like Leicester needs, as we need an attacking manager who's willing to take a few risks to succeed, I mean take a look at the teams that have been promoted lately, most have been promoted by coming out onto the pitch looking to take control of the game, and played a very attacking and attractive brand of football. That's how you 'get out' of this division, by playing to win every game by scoring as many as you can, not setting out to nick a goal here or gain a point there. That's how you stay in this division. Unless you're West Ham with a team full of Premier League quality players and Big Sam.
Guest Col city fan Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 With the right tactics, team selection, and coaching, you can get the most out of any bunch of players. To say that the guys capable of destroying teams last season are at fault for the poor style of play at times this season is unfair on the players, sometimes you just have to look at the coaching staff. Pearson's a traditional old school manager, and a former centre half, not sure if that's what a club like Leicester needs, as we need an attacking manager who's willing to take a few risks to succeed, I mean take a look at the teams that have been promoted lately, most have been promoted by coming out onto the pitch looking to take control of the game, and played a very attacking and attractive brand of football. That's how you 'get out' of this division, by playing to win every game by scoring as many as you can, not setting out to nick a goal here or gain a point there. That's how you stay in this division. Unless you're West Ham with a team full of Premier League quality players and Big Sam. ? Look at the some of the teams who have come to our place and turned us over... Brizzle, Millwall, Barnsley, Leeds Are you seriously suggesting that these teams have played 'an exciting, attacking brand of football' and that we should be attempting to emulate these teams? No... Why they have beaten us is actually because we have been Shite and have not been able to break them down This was as much a problem under Sven as it has been under Pearson. The three nil home loss to a very very average Millwall side being possibly the best case in point...
MrAus Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 Im still hoping, anything can happen in this league! If we can go on a good run, which personally i think is very possible with the players and manager we have, then we can quite easily close the gap on the top 6! We have some very big home games left, also we have 4 or 5 away games where i think we can pick up maximum points - Derby, Bristol city, Millwall, peterborough and MAYBE Watford. For all thats left, all we can do is continue to support the team and IF we do manage to get to the play offs, take our chance!
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 5 February 2012 Posted 5 February 2012 ? Look at the some of the teams who have come to our place and turned us over... Brizzle, Millwall, Barnsley, Leeds Are you seriously suggesting that these teams have played 'an exciting, attacking brand of football' and that we should be attempting to emulate these teams? No... Why they have beaten us is actually because we have been Shite and have not been able to break them down This was as much a problem under Sven as it has been under Pearson. The three nil home loss to a very very average Millwall side being possibly the best case in point... i agree buddy, last game i went to was Portsmouth at home 1-1 draw against a drab ordinary side, but lets be honest thats all we are at the moment
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.