Same-sex marriage

[ozleicester]

Do we have any out and proud homosexuals on here?

Im not but my daughter is.... heres todays event

[Zingari]

Who gets to keep the house, car and most of the loot when gay marriages break up?

I mean it’s quite simple in hetero marriages that the wife bags the best part.

How do they decide which is the wife ie major benefactor in gay splits ?

[Guest MattP]

Im not but my daughter is.... heres todays event

Full vegan? Or does she dabble in fish?

[flowwolf]

It wouldn't matter if homosexuals and heterosexuals had the same rights, you dingbat.

That's heterosexual dingbat if you don't mind Mr Equality. That's some bug up your ass no wonder your so Furious . :D

Oh and cavil partnerships give you the same legal rights as marriage that's all you needed. So why this desperation to be accepted as a married couple ? That has and always will be a Heterosexual institution. Why not go and invent your own ceremony ?

[The Doctor]

That's heterosexual dingbat if you don't mind Mr Equality. That's some bug up your ass no wonder your so Furious . :D

Oh and civil partnerships give you the same legal rights as marriage that's all you needed. So why this desperation to be accepted as a married couple ? That has and always will be a Heterosexual institution. Why not go and invent your own ceremony ?

Except of course, it hasn't.

As for the whole legal rights, why then should there be a division in what the partnership is called - if it's marriage in all but name, why not just let it be called marriage and be done with it?

[Rincewind]

Is it just church marriages that is objected to? Being non-religious I am sure there are ways round it. Draw up some legal documents. Go and see a JP. Do all your swearing in front of him then sign all the papers. If its a God you are worried about isn't he supposed to be everywhere and hears everything so why does it matter where it is. I am sure churches were not built before man existed.

In preostoric days I bet it was

'I really fancy you'

'Its got to be always.'

'OK I will fancy you always now take your fig leaf off.'

[Monk]

This debate pisses me off so much, especially listening to the right wing American side of the story.

In this day and age, two consenting adults should be allowed to get married no matter their age, sex, race or creed. You can be uncomfortable about homosexuality, fine, but what right does that give you to stop other people being happy in their lives?

I'm not religious, and I don't think that the church should be forced to conduct ceremonies, which is fine because they are not being required to as part of this legislation.

The sheer amount of hysteria around the subject just goes to show how little society has moved over the last 50 years forward compared to how much we think it has. Folks, we're not living in the 17th century anymore, let people live their lives and be happy in their lives. You're only on this planet once, and unless you're doing something that negatively affects the lives of others, just get the hell on with it.

I'm yet to see a logical argument as to why it should not be made legal.

[Zingari]

I don't think you're a real Monk !

[Webbo]

This debate pisses me off so much, especially listening to the right wing American side of the story.

In this day and age, two consenting adults should be allowed to get married no matter their age, sex, race or creed. You can be uncomfortable about homosexuality, fine, but what right does that give you to stop other people being happy in their lives?

I'm not religious, and I don't think that the church should be forced to conduct ceremonies, which is fine because they are not being required to as part of this legislation.

The sheer amount of hysteria around the subject just goes to show how little society has moved over the last 50 years forward compared to how much we think it has. Folks, we're not living in the 17th century anymore, let people live their lives and be happy in their lives. You're only on this planet once, and unless you're doing something that negatively affects the lives of others, just get the hell on with it.

I'm yet to see a logical argument as to why it should not be made legal.

We're not America and our legislation does not affect them. Has there really been any hysteria here? None that I've noticed.

PS Jamaica have just broken a WR.

[Monk]

I don't think you're a real Monk !

Was it the hair that gave it away?

[Monk]

Has there really been any hysteria here? None that I've noticed.

There has been plenty from the CofE.

My wife is american so I read a lot of the news over there. It's somewhat reassuring that our political right for all their faults will never be as lunatic as the republicans.

[FuriousFox46]

That's heterosexual dingbat if you don't mind Mr Equality. That's some bug up your ass no wonder your so Furious . :D

Oh and cavil partnerships give you the same legal rights as marriage that's all you needed. So why this desperation to be accepted as a married couple ? That has and always will be a Heterosexual institution. Why not go and invent your own ceremony ?

No, they don't.

They give similar rights. It's not equality. Are you serious?

So ****ing what? Blacks and women were never allowed to vote, should that be the case?

It scares,upsets and angers me that people like you still exist.

[Captain...]

No, they don't.

They give similar rights. It's not equality. Are you serious?

So ****ing what? Blacks and women were never allowed to vote, should that be the case?

It scares,upsets and angers me that people like you still exist.

Legally a civil partnership is the same is marriage, the only difference in terms of rights is that if one of the partnership recieves the title Lord then the other is not bequothed the title lady.

[flowwolf]

No, they don't.

They give similar rights. It's not equality. Are you serious?

So ****ing what? Blacks and women were never allowed to vote, should that be the case?

It scares,upsets and angers me that people like you still exist.

Yes and it scares and angers me when people like you stand next to me in the toilet .

[FuriousFox46]

Yes and it scares and angers me when people like you stand next to me in the toilet .

Don't flatter yourself.

With your bitter tirade you're clearly compensating for something downstairs...

[ozleicester]

That's heterosexual dingbat if you don't mind Mr Equality. That's some bug up your ass no wonder your so Furious . :D

Oh and cavil partnerships give you the same legal rights as marriage that's all you needed. So why this desperation to be accepted as a married couple ? That has and always will be a Heterosexual institution. Why not go and invent your own ceremony ?

Legally a civil partnership is the same is marriage, the only difference in terms of rights is that if one of the partnership recieves the title Lord then the other is not bequothed the title lady.

So, why do you care?

[Captain...]

So, why do you care?

As I said in terms of rights there is no real difference, apart from the Lords thing but that is such a small minority of people and will probably change if there was an openly gay Lord ( gaylord) willing to challenge it.

But I do fully support the campaign for gay marriages, and also straight civil partnerships, one should not be the preserve of one orientation. What I don't agree with is the government spending a lot of time debating it as there are bigger issues in the country at the moment and civil partnerships have all the same rights, it is matter of the name of the ceremony and the religious aspect.

In my eyes any church should have the right to refuse any couple wishing to be married, regardless of orientation, it is not for churches to be forced into conducting a service they disagree with, but if they are willing to marry a homosexual couple then I think it is stupid that they can't.

[flowwolf]

So, why do you care?

Because with all the worlds problems where do you think this non existent topic counts on the scale of things ? Typical Homosexual self centered look at me bull shit . So yes I do care enough about real problems in the world enough to reply to get some balance. Same sex marriage means absolutely fvck all to anyone but the self pitying sad acts that bleat about it.

[Monk]

Because with all the worlds problems where do you think this non existent topic counts on the scale of things ? Typical Homosexual self centered look at me bull shit . So yes I do care enough about real problems in the world enough to reply to get some balance. Same sex marriage means absolutely fvck all to anyone but the self pitying sad acts that bleat about it.

Hate it when people say things like this. I think politicians can deal with more than one issue at once, and besides, couldn't you say that about anything? Olympics was a waste of time as they could have invested the money in saving the whales? Talking about immigration is a waste of time when there's so much poverty. Where do you stop?

[FuriousFox46]

Because with all the worlds problems where do you think this non existent topic counts on the scale of things ? Typical Homosexual self centered look at me bull shit . So yes I do care enough about real problems in the world enough to reply to get some balance. Same sex marriage means absolutely fvck all to anyone but the self pitying sad acts that bleat about it.

Wow, you really are a massive willy puller.

[Charl91]

Yes and it scares and angers me when people like you stand next to me in the toilet .

Typical Homosexual self centered look at me bull shit .

Yet you think people will be desperate to look at your weiner when you're in the toilet? You seem pretty self-centered to me.....

[Zingari]

Because with all the worlds problems where do you think this non existent topic counts on the scale of things ? Typical Homosexual self centered look at me bull shit . So yes I do care enough about real problems in the world enough to reply to get some balance. Same sex marriage means absolutely fvck all to anyone but the self pitying sad acts that bleat about it.

I think many of your posts are slightly tongue in cheek or intentionally provocative, but I can't help feeling you're making a reasonable point somewhere with this post

[Captain...]

Hate it when people say things like this. I think politicians can deal with more than one issue at once, and besides, couldn't you say that about anything? Olympics was a waste of time as they could have invested the money in saving the whales? Talking about immigration is a waste of time when there's so much poverty. Where do you stop?

Well you have more faith in politicians than I do, the issue I have is this should be a no-brainer, it should be a quick motion, a quick vote and it is done, but it won't be, there will be lots of debate, they will be trying to placate the church, their will be concessions and rebellions, and it will be used as a smoke screen and for politicking because it is a contentious issue, it will shift newspapers and it will expose the underlying bigotry in the political elite (not a bad thing, but they need to be concentrating on getting us out of this mess and not defending their bigoted views). All this will ultimately achieve is nothing more than a name change, and a bit of flim flam round the edges about religion that is neither one thing nor the other, churches will retain the right to refuse to marry a gay couple, and most gay couples are probably not devoutly religious anyway.

As I said in theory it is a clear no brainer in practice it is a whole can of worms.

[Zingari]

Should all religious institutions ,CoE Catholic Islam , Judaism , Sikh Jain etc etc be forced into conducting same sex marriages ?

[Captain...]

Should all religious institutions ,CoE Catholic Islam , Judaism , Sikh Jain etc etc be forced into conducting same sex marriages ?

No, and they won't be, but at the moment it is illegal for them to perform a same sex marriage even if they wanted to, which is nonsense.

The problem then is you will get people picketing churches that refuse to conduct one, especially if it becomes more commonplace, not necessarily a bad thing, but this is why the church as a whole don't want this change, despite some more progressive aspects of the church being behind gay marriage.