Babylon Posted 2 April 2012 Posted 2 April 2012 Your response hasn't been 'really' answered because no one knows how to answer it, or indeed, the answer.. Of course you can answer. You want Pearson out after 5 months for not correcting anything. If the new guy comes and and doesn't correct anything either in 5 months. Being equal you should also want them out should you not? Realise the mistakes they've made and do some proper research before appointing a new manager. They can throw as much money as they want at it but if the right manager isn't in place then it won't happen. There are no guarantees, it's more luck than judgement in many appointments. I'll ask again, if we're midtable and no better than now in November what would you do? It's a simple question and I think you know very well why people won't answer it.
Webbo Posted 2 April 2012 Posted 2 April 2012 If someone can guarantee that changing the manager will definitely get us promotion then sack Pearson by all means. Who shall we get who'll win us the league? Classy ex international and champions league winner Paulo Sousa? Or an experience international manager with loads of trophies like Sven maybe? Whoever you give the job to there is no guarantee of success. What's the point of paying off Pearson and his staff after only 4 months and then paying compensation to another club for their manager when you can't be sure the new man will achieve any better? Give Pearson a fair crack of the whip, if we're not looking like genuine contenders by October then think about replacing.
unreachable Posted 2 April 2012 Posted 2 April 2012 Of course you can answer. You want Pearson out after 5 months for not correcting anything. If the new guy comes and and doesn't correct anything either in 5 months. Being equal you should also want them out should you not? There are no guarantees, it's more luck than judgement in many appointments. I'll ask again, if we're midtable and no better than now in November what would you do? It's a simple question and I think you know very well why people won't answer it. You are really like a moth to a flame when managerships are concerened aren't you? Most people will give Pearson until mid November. There we are an answer for you.
cc_star Posted 2 April 2012 Posted 2 April 2012 If someone can guarantee that changing the manager will definitely get us promotion then sack Pearson by all means. Who shall we get who'll win us the league? Classy ex international and champions league winner Paulo Sousa? Or an experience international manager with loads of trophies like Sven maybe? Whoever you give the job to there is no guarantee of success. What's the point of paying off Pearson and his staff after only 4 months and then paying compensation to another club for their manager when you can't be sure the new man will achieve any better? Give Pearson a fair crack of the whip, if we're not looking like genuine contenders by October then think about replacing. That's about the size of it, anything else is insane.
Babylon Posted 2 April 2012 Posted 2 April 2012 You are really like a moth to a flame when managerships are concerened aren't you? I am indeed, because I find it exceptionally annoying that people are so quick to dismiss people without what I constitute a fair chance. When you see people calling for Pearson to be replaced after 5 months, with a man that took three years to get Wolves promoted, it beggars belief. And that is just one example. Most people will give Pearson until mid November. There we are an answer for you. I'm asking the people who want him sacked now. If you are willing to give him time, then the question was not for you.
unreachable Posted 2 April 2012 Posted 2 April 2012 I am indeed, because I find it exceptionally annoying that people are so quick to dismiss people without what I constitute a fair chance. When you see people calling for Pearson to be replaced after 5 months, with a man that took three years to get Wolves promoted, it beggars belief. And that is just one example. I'm asking the people who want him sacked now. If you are willing to give him time, then the question was not for you. Damn - I've contributed a pointless post to a pointless thread.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 2 April 2012 Posted 2 April 2012 What is the answer? Who knows? Is there a better manager out there? Doubtful but you never know? One thing is for sure, there are better players out there, players more suited to the grit of the championship
chavdonk Posted 2 April 2012 Posted 2 April 2012 Well it worked for him at Hull. Pearson is a builder, he did it here and he did it at Hull. So why are we expecting anything different? Pearson hasn't been bought in at Leicester to rebuild he was bought in to improve on what was a poor start to the season under Sven (although I think sacking Sven was the wrong thing to do at the time) If i make reference to Chelsea... AVB was clearly bought in to rebuild and that's what he tried to do but he didn't have any sort of instant success to keep the pressures off, he got sacked! Pearson should go now imo and the players should play the rest of the season to keep their shirt for next season. Although who is available to replace NP... that could be the problem....
m00nie Posted 2 April 2012 Posted 2 April 2012 Give Pearson a fair crack of the whip, if we're not looking like genuine contenders by October then think about replacing. what happens if we have a bad start, do we get rid in october then ? that would mean another season of disrupt. im torn here as i really didnt want him to come back in the first place but im not sure getting rid now/end season is the way forward. i think as people say if were to allow him to build a team then we should at least give him the full season next season, even if we start of bad. only thing that would concern me is we keep him, and come the end of the transfer window we still have some of the players ( howard, gally, maybe wellens, still here and there starting)
Webbo Posted 2 April 2012 Posted 2 April 2012 what happens if we have a bad start, do we get rid in october then ? that would mean another season of disrupt. im torn here as i really didnt want him to come back in the first place but im not sure getting rid now/end season is the way forward. i think as people say if were to allow him to build a team then we should at least give him the full season next season, even if we start of bad. only thing that would concern me is we keep him, and come the end of the transfer window we still have some of the players ( howard, gally, maybe wellens, still here and there starting) There has to be a time when you have to make a decision. If we can't see any improvement by October then you'd have to give it some consideration.
Daggers Posted 2 April 2012 Posted 2 April 2012 Changing the manager is something only a window-licking bus passenger would believe is a good idea. Unless Keegan is available. If he is then hand me a special bus pass.
Raw Dykes Posted 2 April 2012 Posted 2 April 2012 If someone can guarantee that changing the manager will definitely get us promotion then sack Pearson by all means. Who shall we get who'll win us the league? Classy ex international and champions league winner Paulo Sousa? Or an experience international manager with loads of trophies like Sven maybe? Whoever you give the job to there is no guarantee of success. What's the point of paying off Pearson and his staff after only 4 months and then paying compensation to another club for their manager when you can't be sure the new man will achieve any better? Give Pearson a fair crack of the whip, if we're not looking like genuine contenders by October then think about replacing. Exactly! I can't believe people are certain the manager should be sacked before he's even had a chance to make changes. Pearson hasn't been bought in at Leicester to rebuild he was bought in to improve on what was a poor start to the season under Sven (although I think sacking Sven was the wrong thing to do at the time) If i make reference to Chelsea... AVB was clearly bought in to rebuild and that's what he tried to do but he didn't have any sort of instant success to keep the pressures off, he got sacked! Pearson should go now imo and the players should play the rest of the season to keep their shirt for next season. Although who is available to replace NP... that could be the problem.... A lot of people are saying Pearson was brought back to get us in the playoffs immediately, and not to build a squad. Am I missing something? Who from the club said this? I think it's more likely the owners realised trying to buy their way out of the league with big names wasn't going to work out, so they got advice. I expect the advice they got was to re-hire the last successful manager as he was doing a very good job before he was kicked out, almost certainly for not being famous enough. I expect they were told he'd build a hard working team like last time and that it would take time to achieve. AVB's sacking suggests to me that, if Abramovic did hire him to rebuild, he either changed his mind, or is totally clueless. If you want your team rebuilt, you may well have to sacrifice some immediate success. I doubt Chelsea will win another PL title as long as their owner stays. Why do you think NP should go? Why don't you think he should be given at least one pre-season, which is less than a month away, to start undoing Sven's mistakes and try to build another winning side like we've already seen him do? Finding another manager is not the problem, sacking managers every 6 months is a problem. Sacking managers before they've had an opportunity to shape the squad is another problem. Thinking the next manager guarantees instant success is a problem.
LCFCCHRIS Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 Nigel should defiantly be given a summer, usually gets good signings, (wanted Danns, Marshall has been ok recently, drinkwater is getting better)
chris_lcfc_85 Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 Sven bought in 11/12 players in the summer..... Nigel has bought in 3.... Give the guy some time to get his own ideas across and get HIS team!!! Danns/St Ledger/Beckford were all Svens signings and poor under him, all 3 have improved under Nigel. We only signed Fernandes/Johnson/Ball cos Sven knew them from his Man City days, no other reason so no surprise Nigel got rid. Our club has become a huge embarrassment when certain people think changing the manager every 6 months is a good thing... NO ITS NOT!!! STABILITY PLEASE!!!!!
Guy Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 It goes without saying that the most successful clubs in the land have stability and do not chop and change their manager every season (or more), Ferguson, Wenger, Moyes, even Roberto Martinez at Wigan if they survive for yet another season in the Prem.....say no more! Granted, Everton have not won anything for years but they always punch above their weight in relation to the money they've spent. If we do stay down this season and don't even make the play offs, Pearson still needs at least until next Christmas before we can safely judge him this time round. If we're nowhere come then, then we can safely say his second coming was the wrong appointment after all, in relation to the players we now have at the club. What we must still remember is that Pearson has never had egotistical, prima donna players at his disposal before in the way that he has here now - nor did he at Hull either......if we are to believe what happened between Mills and himself as a prime example. He had battlers and grafters with a bit of flair when we stormed League One and so nearly made it two promotions in succession two years ago but then was, for whatever reason, shown the door by Mandy-rich. Big mistake. The subsequent Hollywood-esque appointment (Sousa) then went about wrecking all that team ethic from the previous campaign to try and stamp his more continental (and inappropriate) authority on matters - big fail! Then his famous successor (Sven) made us over elaborate and imbalanced in the main last season and arguably into this, mainly through a lack of initial understanding about the Championship I always thought. Now though it's reached the stage where we've become worse than the hit and miss team we were last season I think. All the same we had too many loan signings last season and that is always going to spell danger for the following season if things don't go well and they all go on their own separate ways, as happened. The answer is to keep Pearson and see what's what in January 2013..........the year of the.....fox?!! :-)
Guy Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 PS Nigel also had Chrissie Powell alongside him during his first spell here and I think that helped enormously now too, looking back......
Guest Foxin_mad Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 Changing manager every year has worked really well for the past 10 years aint it?! We need stability, it would take at least a year to build a decent team.
ozleicester Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 Stability for the sake of Stability is no better than Change for the sake of change
Guy Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 Stability for the sake of Stability is no better than Change for the sake of change Essentially what you're saying then is that all we have is a no win situation!
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