DennisNedry Posted 20 August 2013 Posted 20 August 2013 I think a big problem is people's attitudes as well. "Africa is a special case in this sense that is essentially in anarchy with no leaders, no direction and virtually no progress towards development" You do realise how much of a sweeping generalisation that is right? Excuse my ignorance but isn't what I said true?
Guest MattP Posted 20 August 2013 Posted 20 August 2013 Excuse my ignorance but isn't what I said true? Pretty much yes, can't really be argued. On a side note Karagandy have just slaughtered a sheep outside the ground for good luck before tonights game against Celtic
OzFox Posted 20 August 2013 Posted 20 August 2013 I read somewhere that exterminating all mosquitoes would have no negative impact on the environment and ecosystems. I don't know if it is true but apparently they did studies. Good article about it here: http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100721/full/466432a.html in many cases, scientists acknowledge that the ecological scar left by a missing mosquito would heal quickly as the niche was filled by other organisms. Life would continue as before — or even better. When it comes to the major disease vectors, "it's difficult to see what the downside would be to removal, except for collateral damage"
James. Posted 20 August 2013 Posted 20 August 2013 Excuse my ignorance but isn't what I said true? Not for the whole of Africa no.
Captain... Posted 20 August 2013 Posted 20 August 2013 Good article about it here: http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100721/full/466432a.html in many cases, scientists acknowledge that the ecological scar left by a missing mosquito would heal quickly as the niche was filled by other organisms. Life would continue as before — or even better. When it comes to the major disease vectors, "it's difficult to see what the downside would be to removal, except for collateral damage" That looks very similar to what I read it was a few years ago now though. So would you support exterminating mosquitos based on that? Same to OzLeicester
OzFox Posted 21 August 2013 Posted 21 August 2013 That looks very similar to what I read it was a few years ago now though. So would you support exterminating mosquitos based on that? Same to OzLeicester Not exterminating no. Pretty much every time we've messed with nature, it's been a disaster and I doubt if this would be any different.
ozleicester Posted 21 August 2013 Author Posted 21 August 2013 Oz, - malaria carrying flies. Kill or don't kill? If killing is required for Human preservation then i accept killing of the malaria carriers The reason I asked is because of the sentiment set out in the first post. Not having a dig - just curious. You could argue that insects may not feel pain but is it right to kill or injure them regardless of that You've quoted ozleicester. He's west coast. They're hard core animal lovers over there. He probably keeps malaria riddled mosquitoes as pets PETS??? , we kill random children and pop their limbs into mozzie filled containers just to ensure the mozzies are well fed So I have. With all you Oz's I should change my name to Ozlong. Anyway, if the other Oz reads this I'd be interested to hear his response to my original question but thanks for putting me right you killer:-) Hmm Ozlong huh... i reckon... youll be big down under I read somewhere that exterminating all mosquitoes would have no negative impact on the environment and ecosystems. I don't know if it is true but apparently they did studies. As for Oz Leicester, he has stated a number of times in this thread that if it was a choice between an animal or a human he would kill the animal, so I'm sure he would have no problem killing a mozzie if he thought it might cause him or his loved ones serious harm, as in malaria. thanks Capn... correct That looks very similar to what I read it was a few years ago now though. So would you support exterminating mosquitos based on that? Same to OzLeicester I would be concerned by the idea of just wiping out a species. That report has valid points, but as it states views differ on what the outcome would be and imo the more we fvck around with our natural enviroment, the more harm we appear to do. The destruction of the mosquito will lead to another creature filling its space, which would conceivably change that creature and it habits leading us to who knows what outcome. The earth is a delicately balanced organism and as demonstrated by that "suppository" of wisdom.... each change we make...will have long term effects (not necc all bad mind... mm doughnuts). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1IKioDLEh8
OzFox Posted 21 August 2013 Posted 21 August 2013 PETS??? , we kill random children and pop their limbs into mozzie filled containers just to ensure the mozzies are well fed I thought as much. It's tough out west. What are you doing to your black cockatoos anyway? Just read today they're next on the hit list. Usual story...their habitat is now housing estates and multiplex cinemas
ozleicester Posted 21 August 2013 Author Posted 21 August 2013 I thought as much. It's tough out west. What are you doing to your black cockatoos anyway? Just read today they're next on the hit list. Usual story...their habitat is now housing estates and multiplex cinemas If we cant dig you up and sell you to the chinese, youre fair game out West! Its pretty sad about the Cockies, we have a flock that live near us and occasionally see them in our trees, now the missus wont let me cut down one of the trees (that drops all its seeds/dates and branches all over the garden) because the cockies use it.
OzFox Posted 21 August 2013 Posted 21 August 2013 If we cant dig you up and sell you to the chinese, youre fair game out West! Its pretty sad about the Cockies, we have a flock that live near us and occasionally see them in our trees, now the missus wont let me cut down one of the trees (that drops all its seeds/dates and branches all over the garden) because the cockies use it. She sounds alright your missus. I'd have to stop mine from running out there with a chainsaw
Mike Oxlong Posted 21 August 2013 Posted 21 August 2013 If killing is required for Human preservation then i accept killing of the malaria carriers PETS??? , we kill random children and pop their limbs into mozzie filled containers just to ensure the mozzies are well fed Hmm Ozlong huh... i reckon... youll be big down under thanks Capn... correct I would be concerned by the idea of just wiping out a species. That report has valid points, but as it states views differ on what the outcome would be and imo the more we fvck around with our natural enviroment, the more harm we appear to do. The destruction of the mosquito will lead to another creature filling its space, which would conceivably change that creature and it habits leading us to who knows what outcome. The earth is a delicately balanced organism and as demonstrated by that "suppository" of wisdom.... each change we make...will have long term effects (not necc all bad mind... mm doughnuts). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1IKioDLEh8 Cheers OzLeicester for satisfying my curiosity though forgive me if I don't ask you to babysit for me sometime soon!
The Doctor Posted 21 August 2013 Posted 21 August 2013 On a side note, Bill 'Jesus' Gates is doing his part for the depopulation gang with his African vaccination schemes, sterilising and poisoning the African kids. The pervert scumbag. This would be ****ing hilarious if it weren't for that this sort of view puts childrens lives at risk. Vaccines don't sterilise or poison kids, they don't depopulate: http://www.who.int/immunization_supply/financing/value_vaccination_bloom_canning_weston.pdf the anti-vaccine lobby draw my ire more than anyone else, even homeopaths - you ****ing mongols with your psuedoscientific garbage kill people, and sit there with a straight face.
OzFox Posted 21 August 2013 Posted 21 August 2013 On a side note Karagandy have just slaughtered a sheep outside the ground for good luck before tonights game against Celtic Bad news for the sheep, but it obviously worked. Maybe we should introduce a bit of ritual slaughter at the KP
lavrentis Posted 21 August 2013 Posted 21 August 2013 I still don't see overpopulation as a worry. There is enough food on the planet to feed 10 or 20 billion, the problem is that much of it is wasted, and that ferile land is hogged by Tesco's and others of their ilk. Those 3079 species may be on the red list but I don't see that as a consequence of the amount of people on the planet, but rather a consequence of what a some of the people/industries choose to do. The whole of the planets humans could live in Australia, each with a bit of land - so overpopulation is a myth. Therefore, those that advocate population control should get in line and be castrated. On a side note, Bill 'Jesus' Gates is doing his part for the depopulation gang with his African vaccination schemes, sterilising and poisoning the African kids. The pervert scumbag. "In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation. "
ozleicester Posted 22 August 2013 Author Posted 22 August 2013 Bad news for the sheep, but it obviously worked. Maybe we should introduce a bit of ritual slaughter at the KP Already got that, just Nige does it differently. He selects one player, introduces him to Miss Pearson, then Headbutts him and he is never heard of again. Cheers OzLeicester for satisfying my curiosity though forgive me if I don't ask you to babysit for me sometime soon! Dammit, i knew i shouldnt have mentioned the babies... how am i going to feed all these fvcking mozzies now?
OzFox Posted 22 August 2013 Posted 22 August 2013 Already got that, just Nige does it differently. He selects one player, introduces him to Miss Pearson, then Headbutts him and he is never heard of again. That could work actually. Ceremonial headbutt in the middle of the pitch before a game. Preferably on the youngest, most talented player
Guest MattP Posted 22 August 2013 Posted 22 August 2013 http://www.meatopia.co.uk/ What an event this looks. http://meatopia.org/meatopia-the-map-2/
OzFox Posted 3 September 2013 Posted 3 September 2013 Good read, if you're into fish... http://www.economist.com/news/britain/21584322-devastation-fishery-shows-idiocy-much-environmental-politics-parable
Rincewind Posted 3 September 2013 Posted 3 September 2013 Good read, if you're into fish... http://www.economist.com/news/britain/21584322-devastation-fishery-shows-idiocy-much-environmental-politics-parable Only as a food source
OzFox Posted 3 September 2013 Posted 3 September 2013 Only as a food source Well don't go looking off the Clyde
The Doctor Posted 4 September 2013 Posted 4 September 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4Y6VVdk2XY 190lb burger? That's an entire ****ing cow...
Rincewind Posted 4 September 2013 Posted 4 September 2013 Imagine carrying that away from McDonalds on a horse.
The Doctor Posted 4 September 2013 Posted 4 September 2013 Who the **** rides a horse to McDonalds? You'd get chop-shopped by the staff the moment you dismounted.
Guest MattP Posted 4 September 2013 Posted 4 September 2013 More to the point would you go inside or use the drive-thru?
The Doctor Posted 4 September 2013 Posted 4 September 2013 Drive-through of course, if these lot can do it, why not a horse?
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