Charlton away- Parking ticket

[Larry_LCFC]

Dont pay. These private car parks cant legally make you pay. Its been in the news loads.

[JonnyBoy]

I had one of these 'tickets' when I parked at a pub in Blaby.

There were signs on the walls saying a new parking scheme had been introduced and I, because it had never been there previously, took no notice.

I got stung with a ticket on my window and a fine.

I contacted the Council and they said it was a private arrangement set up by the pub to stop people parking there and shopping in Blaby.

They said that many people had got similar fines.

They advised me to pay the fine, which I did.

I had one of these 'tickets' when I parked at a pub in Blaby.

There were signs on the walls saying a new parking scheme had been introduced and I, because it had never been there previously, took no notice.

I got stung with a ticket on my window and a fine.

I contacted the Council and they said it was a private arrangement set up by the pub to stop people parking there and shopping in Blaby.

They said that many people had got similar fines.

They advised me to pay the fine, which I did.

That is exactly the same cart park my Dad got stung at!!

he appealled and didn't have to pay, its swings and roundabouts though... The pub owner was an inconsiderate arsehole about it though

[Callabinho]

This has happened to a friend of mine before, unless they have permission off the government, they can't issue parking fines, they would have had to fine everybody within the vicinity if so, as mentioned they won't take you to court as it will cost them, plus if more people have parked there without receiving fines it proves that it's not official, it would look highly suspicious fining a large group of cars!

You could always contact citizens advice if you are worried?

[Jace]

Tell them you live nowhere near Norwich you have never been to Norwich and you never want to go to Norwich and your employer provides you free legal advice and you will be speaking to them if you are hassled again and take the name of the person you speak to

[Leicesterpool]

Don't pay pretend you never got the letter.

[z-layrex]

Please just ignore it, these companies have no legal bi-law (spelling??) to fine you. Even the police cannot fine you, just charge you a fee for not taking you to court.

As other guys have said, Ive had sooo many from Morrisons, just ignore the fat bald criminals and their sad print-outs soon stop.

As I mentioned in my last gears post, this country needs to stop letting people who look like eggs in high vis jackets telling everyone what to do.

[ozleicester]

Organise a protest, sms to all your friends, get them to do the same... take over the streets, burn down the shops.. Anarchyyyyyyyyy!!!!

[The Don]

If my memory serves me rightly, what the Council asked me (just my personal experience) was:

We're the signs clear and legible?... Yes

We're they obviously located?..... Yes

Was there CCTV?....... Yes

Was it clear what the amount of fine would be if I parked there.. Yes

What I asked them:

Was it a bona fide private firm,... Yes

Had other prople contacted the Council... Yes

Basically they advised me I would most probably lose if the case went to Court and, in their opinion, pay the 60.00 they were demanding. This would have increased to more if not paid within 14 days, i think, which the Council also said they were in their right to do.

All depends if you want to pay up and get it done.

Or Fight it and live with what comes...

Weighing up the professional advice I had, I went for the former. Expensive trip to the bookies that was...

Then you were advised wrongly then.

please see the attached

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/reclaim/private-parking-tickets

[The Don]

Debt recovery companies have no real power, for instance they can't kick your door down and enter your house like court appointed bailiffs can. All they can do is enter through open doors and windows. They take a list of your property and have to take you to court for it. As long as they don't get a look inside your house to take a list of what saleable property you have they can't do anything. Unfortunately, as you have been billed for parking, they know you have a car and can take you to court for the car to recover their money. You can take the risk of not paying if you wish to because sometimes it is just an empty threat and they drop it instead of passing it on to a debt recovery agency. Bear in mind though that unpaid debts can affect your credit rating

This is totally wrong, please do not post such drivel as this may unduly worry some people.

Debt recovery agencies cannot go through open doors or windows, if they do, call the police as they are trespassing.

Bailiffs cannot enter your property by force unless they have been in there before, and they can only enter the property peacefully the 1st time.

I could go on, if anyone is worried then research this on the internet.

I would suggest not relying on the citizens advice bureau totally as in my experience, they gave incorrect advice - by actually telling me to pay something that I was not legally due to.

Do not pay this invoice - it is a con

[dynamark]

Mitch Word in your ear mate - Youll need more than a good credit rating to get a loan from a bank.If you have an assett they can take a legal charge over you may get the loan regardless of any other minor issues.Good luck though

[Jace]

When they come to your property go outside and fix a parking penalty notice to their car for a higher ammount and tell them you will pay when they pay their debt

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

If someone parks their car on your private drive, it can be clamped, but it won't be a police matter.

About four years ago, I was called private site, to try and resolve an argument between between a clamper on the driver, who refused to leave his vehicle. His car was lifted onto a truck, with him still in it, a disappeared down the road!

[Alexikokopops]

I'm massively late, and someone may have already posted this, but if it's a private parking ticket (which it sounds like since it was in a retail park) then it's nothing to do with councils. There's some advice on it here which may help

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/reclaim/private-parking-tickets

[ARM1968]

I've had loads. Never paid one in my life. All bollocks. They might threaten but can do fcuk all. Just ignore em. They make money from idiots who pay without question.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

I've had loads. Never paid one in my life. All bollocks. They might threaten but can do fcuk all. Just ignore em. They make money from idiots who pay without question.

Not down here pal.

If you had refused a police parking ticket you would end up in court, where you would be 95% likely to lose, and then pay costs also.

Parking tickets issued by council attendants that are challenged by a the motorist will normally go to an independent tribunal.

I think you are either remarkably lucky, or telling porkies.

[Heart-Shaped Fox]

Not down here pal.

If you had refused a police parking ticket you would end up in court, where you would be 95% likely to lose, and then pay costs also.

Parking tickets issued by council attendants that are challenged by a the motorist will normally go to an independent tribunal.

I think you are either remarkably lucky, or telling porkies.

Hes on about private tickets not Police or council ones.

[Vardinhio]

Dealing with contracts day in day out I have a decent grasp on this...

Basically when you park in their car park you can enter in to a contract with their terms and conditions on the basis of intent alone (ie you leave your car there).

However, to be legally enforced the "reasonableness" would be considered. So, for example are the signs correctly displayed etc? In essence you would probably be refusing to pay on the basis that you were unaware of entering such a contract as to be valid a contract needs a "meeting of the minds". You should be stating that you DID NOT enter a contract.

However, the above is all irrelevant. The main point here is simply that in reality no company is going to put the time/effort/resources to chase you through a court for £100. Ignore the letter and if you really have to respond go back to the car park and check for flaws in their administration/signage etc.

[Vlad the Fox]

While i advise you to ignore it, my friend once rang the parking company told them he had taken legal advice and had a strong case. He finished by telling them that if they wished to pursue it he would have his day in court. He got an email within the hour dropping charges. I was parked next to him and chose to ignore it. Neither of us paid.

Anyway what was the outcome of this? Has he paid or not?

[Mack]

While i advise you to ignore it, my friend once rang the parking company told them he had taken legal advice and had a strong case. He finished by telling them that if they wished to pursue it he would have his day in court. He got an email within the hour dropping charges. I was parked next to him and chose to ignore it. Neither of us paid.

Anyway what was the outcome of this? Has he paid or not?

Dont ever contact them.

By doing so you are making the association between you and the fact that you parked the vehicle in their car park.

Without this contact they cant prove that, and the difference with police or council parking penalties is they have the legal right to demand this information from you, whereas private companies don't.

If you dont contact them, they have no individual to try and take to court with their bogus parking 'notice'.

These companies live off of scaring people into paying them for something they have no legal basis to charge for.

[Vlad the Fox]

Dont ever contact them.

By doing so you are making the association between you and the fact that you parked the vehicle in their car park.

Without this contact they cant prove that, and the difference with police or council parking penalties is they have the legal right to demand this information from you, whereas private companies don't.

If you dont contact them, they have no individual to try and take to court with their bogus parking 'notice'.

These companies live off of scaring people into paying them for something they have no legal basis to charge for.

Totally agree with that. I receive a number of tickets over the course of the season and never reply to any. Needless to say, after a few notices through the post from various debt collecting agencys they all disappear. I just found it amusing that when my friend told then he would see them in court they canceled so quickly. However by contacting them, like you say, it becomes even harder to get rid of them, my friend was lucky as you dont usually get rid of them that easily.

Also private parking companies can't ccj you our send bailiffs round. As I said earlier in this thread these charges are nothing more than a speculative invoice relying on a percentage paying out of fear.

[Ric Flair]

Have you got an irritating mother-in-law or even partner who you'd like to tuck up? If so, contact them and tell them that it was them who was driving and they took your car without consent. Tell them you'd be eternally grateful if they could get them put away for it too.