dmayne7 Posted 1 October 2012 Author Posted 1 October 2012 Journalists are not in my experience stupid. They write what their employers require which in turn is what their customers want to read. The fact that most of their customers are total fookwits means that they want to read gossip, rumour and confrontation. The people get the press they deserve and if you consume 'tabloid journalism', whatever the format, you are part of the problem. I'm not saying Journalists are stupid but simply the standard of journalism is very poor. What you have mentioned is part of the problem but the quality of what is written is not because of a particular manifesto from the Media Outlet. Basic mistakes, like us being referred to as the Tigers, incorrect player names etc. are unacceptable in my opinion.
LCFC FOX Posted 1 October 2012 Posted 1 October 2012 Does anyone know where I can find the "theirs only one Ian Stringer" chant from Norwich last season?
flowwolf Posted 1 October 2012 Posted 1 October 2012 Minor irritant ? thought that was Jimmy Savile ?
Kitchandro Posted 1 October 2012 Posted 1 October 2012 Kudos to Stringer for asking questions, yes. I remember when he first came it was a breath of fresh air that he actually asked more than your bog standard question (in contrast to previous BBC Radio Leicester journalists who would toe the line), but there needs to be some filtering by common sense. What is the point in asking Pearson about speculation about his job? What are we going to learn by rubbing it in his face? How does it help anything? It doesn't. All it serves to do is give greater exposure to rumours which are clearly, in best interests of Leicester City, best left to die a death. I'm not as opposed to Stringer as others, but to me he can also be a 'minor irritant' because he always seems keen for the scoop, the exclusive, the inside word. But at times it's embarrasing (lest we not forget he is working for local radio not The Sun), and no doubt counter productive too. He'd learn far more if he asked questions that were worth answering than bugging Pearson with nonsense like this. Is he so stupid that he can't see why he gets a stonewall every time?! What does he really expect Pearson to say? The deterioration in their relationship is embarassing. It's embarassing for the club, for BBC Radio Leicester and the both of them. But I know who I sympathise with. The one asking the stupid little questions trying to delve into everything and anything? Or the one quietly going about his business in a professional manner and refusing to entertain this fool? No brainer. Keep rebuffing him Nigel!
marbelladave Posted 1 October 2012 Posted 1 October 2012 I'm not saying Journalists are stupid but simply the standard of journalism is very poor. What you have mentioned is part of the problem but the quality of what is written is not because of a particular manifesto from the Media Outlet. Basic mistakes, like us being referred to as the Tigers, incorrect player names etc. are unacceptable in my opinion. Part of this is down to the subs, journalists rely on them to check such mundane matters. Journalists are there to 'dish the dirt' not engage in rational discussion, they are under pressure to get 'stories' but have to deal with people who, these days, are 'media savvy'. Hence the kind of standoff we get between Stringer and NFP.
Thracian Posted 1 October 2012 Posted 1 October 2012 Stringer's snookered and, as an ex-journalist I feel for him. The story - or apparent non-story - is all over everywhere, seemingly out of date and conveniently unsubstantiated. Stringer has no real choice but to refer to it. Pearson's most telling comment was not about Stringer being a minor irritation - we all knew that - but to the effect that the relationship of trust that a manager could have with the local media no longer existed. Pearson was probably not referring to Stringer alone but in Stringer's shoes I'd be deeply concerned about that because I can certainly remember having complete trust in the local reporters I was privileged to speak with during my time in sports management...and the missing of stories because of that lack of trust is serious. I liked pearson's comment about not wasting time interviewing any journalist at the source of the story but if I were Stringer I certainly would be asking some questions of our owners. Because the whole saga smacks of the kind of behind-the-scenes disloyalty that has become a trademark at the club over recent seasons. Whatever people might think of Pearson he is clearly trying to put together a team of honest professionals who are prepared to give everything of themselves, and as a team, towards the cause of our winning promotion. The last thing he needs in trying to do that is employers going behind his back - through third parties or otherwise - and effectively undermining those efforts. As an individual I may live life by my own rules but I have no time for disloyalty. I've been with my wife for 47 years and a supporter of my club for 55 years. If our owners felt unsatisfied with the manager's efforts they should have said so and told him they were/would be looking for someone else. If they've not done that - and I'm not presuming they haven't - then they are no better than any other sort of fainthearts who would desert their colleagues in times of trouble. Stringer should be asking the truth of it and should report back anything that's said or not said. He could put the questions in writing if the phone stays unanswered. It would take long for our owners to see the message on their desks. Their silence would send its own message.
Bryn Posted 1 October 2012 Posted 1 October 2012 I think Pearson probably finds the media aspect of the game annoying in general. I doubt it's anything personal towards Stringer, in fact towards the end of it Pearson sounded wearily fond of him; better the devil you know, and all that. Stringer gets a bad press on here in my opinion, I think he does a reasonable job, and at the end of the day I can't think of anything I'd less like to listen to than a journo brown nosing the boss. Stringer is paid to ask these questions and I enjoy hearing Pearson's responses.
MajorInTheKnow Posted 1 October 2012 Posted 1 October 2012 what the hell was the whole 'you may wish they do?' comment he used after talking about someone taking his job. Its more than cheeky its down right dis-respectful to a football clubs manager. BBC really need to sack him or re-assign him somewhere else.
Zingari Posted 1 October 2012 Posted 1 October 2012 what the hell was the whole 'you may wish they do?' comment he used after talking about someone taking his job. Its more than cheeky its down right dis-respectful to a football clubs manager. BBC really need to sack him or re-assign him somewhere else. i think stringer was talking about his own job
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 1 October 2012 Posted 1 October 2012 I forgot to add, one of the most embarassing aspects of the whole affair is that Stringer himself refers to how bad things are/how Pearson doesn't like him himself! Surely professional pride would see him take onboard how the situation, make as little of it as possible on-air and try to re-build his working relationship? Not keep referring to it in every interview he ever does with Pearson.
davieG Posted 1 October 2012 Posted 1 October 2012 If he's not already tried perhaps Stringer would be better spending his time sourcing the rumour, has he no friends contacts in the wider world of journalism that he can call on?
Westlife Posted 1 October 2012 Posted 1 October 2012 I think there is some sort of acceptable 'love in', which I find entertaining, between the two and as Nige said 'we're like marmite . . .' . . . but no hiding the sausage in the pot though.
EnderbyFox Posted 1 October 2012 Posted 1 October 2012 Stringer had better watch out, or he will find himself interviewing the u21's
Bert Posted 1 October 2012 Posted 1 October 2012 At the end of the day, it's Stringers job. He's not there to make friends with Pearson, he's there to report on Leicester and ask relevant questions. Some fans want to hear what Pearson has to say on such things, but some don't. You can't please everyone, sadly.
Westlife Posted 1 October 2012 Posted 1 October 2012 Stringer had better watch out, or he will find himself interviewing the u21's Or getting a 'butt sandwich' . . .
Grey Fox Posted 1 October 2012 Posted 1 October 2012 i think stringer was talking about his own job I think so too, but don't think Nige got that either.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 1 October 2012 Posted 1 October 2012 At the end of the day, it's Stringers job. He's not there to make friends with Pearson, he's there to report on Leicester and ask relevant questions. Some fans want to hear what Pearson has to say on such things, but some don't. You can't please everyone, sadly. This
Zingari Posted 1 October 2012 Posted 1 October 2012 I think so too, but don't think Nige got that either. Yes I've listened again and it seems that Nigel misunderstood what Stringer was saying .
Tielemans63 Posted 1 October 2012 Posted 1 October 2012 Storm in a teacup really. As Bert said, Stringer is just doing his job and Pearson is doing his. They have no obligation to like each other, in fact I can see why they are irritated by each other. Having listened to it I don't think it's much more than a spot of banter. Pearson is right about the change in local media though - although it changed a while ago in my experience.
morris1234 Posted 1 October 2012 Posted 1 October 2012 From where I stand, they don't like eachother. They both reapect eachother though and the fact they both have jobs to do. Stringer gets much better access to players, facilities etc than a lot of journos do so he's going to be arrogant at times just needs to cut out the random insults and cutting callers down mid sentence and let them finish before kicking off, even when they are talking utter crap!
breadandcheesebrother Posted 1 October 2012 Posted 1 October 2012 there's something deeply moving in that exchange between pearson and stringer. a friendship blossoming beneath the comic sparring and half-hearted professional disrespect which is more aimed at us, the hapless listeners than string. i think pearson looks at ian as a prodigal son, an unloanable dj campbell or jermaine beckford whom he has decided to work with and very slowly bring into the fold. i see the interview as pearson sensitively reproaching a player who hasn't put in a good performance that week. towards the end i was getting quite teary. i just hope stringer can learn the lessons in time for the playoffs or whatever.
Westlife Posted 1 October 2012 Posted 1 October 2012 there's something deeply moving in that exchange between pearson and stringer. a friendship blossoming beneath the comic sparring and half-hearted professional disrespect which is more aimed at us, the hapless listeners than string. i think pearson looks at ian as a prodigal son, an unloanable dj campbell or jermaine beckford whom he has decided to work with and very slowly bring into the fold. i see the interview as pearson sensitively reproaching a player who hasn't put in a good performance that week. towards the end i was getting quite teary. i just hope stringer can learn the lessons in time for the playoffs or whatever. This . . . covered in marmite.
acooling08 Posted 1 October 2012 Posted 1 October 2012 Pearson has been asked constantly by Stringer about his job being under threat recently even though he has said he won't comment and he knows nothing of any job insecurity. Of course Stringer's irritating him, wouldn't you be?
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