What has happened to the Atmosphere at the King Power?

[Lobsterboyuk]

We just don't have the numbers anymore, I'll always try to help get chants going but it's shocking the lack of others joining in. We have in L/K block an area of the ground that is supposed to be starting the chants.I would say that the hardcore singers are almost extinct now. Most attempts fizzle out with no more than 10 singing.

The sanitisers of the game have done their job, most of my kind are not in the ground anymore on match days. I'm a dinosaur for singing and the vast majority of match goers have no wish to generate a match day experience similar to the many I've experienced. Dreary matches transformed into a magic experience because of a shared passion for LCFC.

Hope a good few can get to the Burton match and just for the sake of it create some old school atmosphere.

[Guest Col city fan]

We just don't have the numbers anymore, I'll always try to help get chants going but it's shocking the lack of others joining in. We have in L/K block an area of the ground that is supposed to be starting the chants.I would say that the hardcore singers are almost extinct now. Most attempts fizzle out with no more than 10 singing.

The sanitisers of the game have done their job, most of my kind are not in the ground anymore on match days. I'm a dinosaur for singing and the vast majority of match goers have no wish to generate a match day experience similar to the many I've experienced. Dreary matches transformed into a magic experience because of a shared passion for LCFC.

Hope a good few can get to the Burton match and just for the sake of it create some old school atmosphere.

Ditto mate

[Kitchandro]

Oh really? Meh, maybe do you know someone named RossiLCFC1993 ?

If that's someone's real name Id like to meet their parents

[Voll Blau]

Genuinely excited for Burton now. Time for a fightback.

AMF.

[Trav Le Bleu]

As crap as usual. If we ain't on top fatty don't drum. And without it people don't know what to do.

Yep, I've banged <sic> on about this before. I think we would be better off without Jobber, so that eventually we learn to get behind the team without feeling like a galley full of slaves.

Wouldn't be so bad if Jobber was actually in fact a "Super Fan" capable of just the right tempo for 100% of the match, but he's just human like everyone else and often doesn't drum for 15-20 mins at a time.

[AlphaMaleFox]

If that's someone's real name Id like to meet their parents

I'm pretty sure it's someone's real name. His alias is R*** Lcfc H*****, could you believe it!

[whoareyaaa]

So if people want to actually get something going and improve the atmosphere buy tickets in N1, P1 & P2 for the Burton game stand up and sing.

[Captain...]

I have to admit I'd enjoy the away games in the Premiership, on the rare occasions I could afford them.

Away from home, our support is usually decent and I think that would continue in the Premiership.

I'm really not that bothered about home games now if I'm honest. Expensive, too family orientated and too many moaners. The club could do a lot worse than listen to what is being said by Lisa at the FCC and start thinking about how to engage fans when they're between childhood and parenthood, because they're doing very little for the young, single male at the moment. Like it or not, it's the young single males who tend to create the bulk of the atmosphere.

Failure to engage them could prove costly, the last thing the club needs is for these people to fall out of love with LCFC completely and then lose them when they become parents. Ticking time bomb comes to mind. I understand that families bring in more money than lads like myself, but for a truly inclusive atmosphere everyone should be accommodated and that isn't happening. It isn't just Leicester City, it's a general malaise throughout football.

As much as I dislike Stoke, and by god I do, their support in the first couple of years at the Britannia Stadium made Stoke a difficult place to visit. They were dire on the road but nobody wanted to play them at their own place because they were a tough team playing in front of an intimidatingly loud stadium. Their home form kept them up in those days. I want the KP to be like that. Fair enough I don't want Stoke's style of rugby football here but loud, vocal support against the likes of Manchester United and Arsenal? You bet I do. Anyone who went to the Britannia during the days of them being an average Championship side and saw 15,000 rattling around in there will realise that wasn't always the case.

Therefore if we are looking to get promoted and stay in the Premiership, we need to think about how we can create that kind of atmosphere. We're doing well at home now with 26 points from 33, but we are going to need everything in our favour when promoted.

I really don't understand this attitude, it is not just you, but I have read it from quite a few others who don't go to many home matches because the atmosphere is crap, if all those that didn't go started going again then the atmosphere would pick up, surely.

Secondly what do you want from the club? Special prices for young single males? Do you want strippers on the concourse? I don't know what you expect from them, they put on a football match, pricing isn't great, but the young single male has more disposable income than older/married folks with kids.

I know that there were a few differences with the club over things like the Fosse boys and flags, but they allow Jobber and his drum, like it or not, they allow a large number of people to stand in L1 and at the back of the Kop, it is not the clubs fault the hundreds standing in L1 didn't sing anything yesterday, nor that despite the efforts of those at the back in the Kop no chants were really picked up by the rest.

[1964FOX]

Secondly what do you want from the club? Special prices for young single males? Do you want strippers on the concourse? I don't know what you expect from them, they put on a football match, pricing isn't great, but the young single male has more disposable income than older/married folks with kids.

I know that there were a few differences with the club over things like the Fosse boys and flags, but they allow Jobber and his drum, like it or not, they allow a large number of people to stand in L1 and at the back of the Kop, it is not the clubs fault the hundreds standing in L1 didn't sing anything yesterday, nor that despite the efforts of those at the back in the Kop no chants were really picked up by the rest.

Forget the young uns, yes strippers on the concourse please.

[Kitchandro]

I really don't understand this attitude, it is not just you, but I have read it from quite a few others who don't go to many home matches because the atmosphere is crap, if all those that didn't go started going again then the atmosphere would pick up, surely.

Secondly what do you want from the club? Special prices for young single males? Do you want strippers on the concourse? I don't know what you expect from them, they put on a football match, pricing isn't great, but the young single male has more disposable income than older/married folks with kids.

I know that there were a few differences with the club over things like the Fosse boys and flags, but they allow Jobber and his drum, like it or not, they allow a large number of people to stand in L1 and at the back of the Kop, it is not the clubs fault the hundreds standing in L1 didn't sing anything yesterday, nor that despite the efforts of those at the back in the Kop no chants were really picked up by the rest.

Hang on a minute though, I believe the prices in the Family Stand froze in the summer yet increased around the rest of the ground.

They should not be favouring families, it's not important who has more disposable income (and your generalising isn't really fair, there are plenty of single males who have less income than some family people) they shouldn't be saying 'well these kind of people have more money so we'll charge them more'.

You've answered your own questions, the pricing is crap and the club have shown numerous times that they're pro-families and anti-single males/standing and singing types. When people don't feel valued by the club and at times, insulted, why would they want to stump up their cash? I cant keep kidding myself anymore, I feel like a mug when I'm giving them my money now because I don't enjoy myself (as much as I try to) and the club couldn't care less. They've actively tried to crush the atmosphere, even if you' like to turn a blind eye to it or pretend it's all a bunch of coincidences and I'm a conspiracy theorist.

I'm also not going to just go in the hope that this time all our fans will have a different attitude and well have miraculously attracted back the sufficient fans to create a good, old school atmosphere. Realistically that is not going to happen. What will continue to happen is there will be a small number of people trying and thousands just putting no effort in.

[Captain...]

Hang on a minute though, I believe the prices in the Family Stand froze in the summer yet increased around the rest of the ground.

They should not be favouring families, it's not important who has more disposable income (and your generalising isn't really fair, there are plenty of single males who have less income than some family people) they shouldn't be saying 'well these kind of people have more money so we'll charge them more'.

You've answered your own questions, the pricing is crap and the club have shown numerous times that they're pro-families and anti-single males/standing and singing types. When people don't feel valued by the club and at times, insulted, why would they want to stump up their cash? I cant keep kidding myself anymore, I feel like a mug when I'm giving them my money now because I don't enjoy myself (as much as I try to) and the club couldn't care less. They've actively tried to crush the atmosphere, even if you' like to turn a blind eye to it or pretend it's all a bunch of coincidences and I'm a conspiracy theorist.

I'm also not going to just go in the hope that this time all our fans will have a different attitude and well have miraculously attracted back the sufficient fans to create a good, old school atmosphere. Realistically that is not going to happen. What will continue to happen is there will be a small number of people trying and thousands just putting no effort in.

You want cheaper prices go in the Kop, surely you can understand offering cheaper tickets for those bringing kids, I am generalising but on average a young single male (with a job, no kids, no mortgage, no wife) should have more disposable income.

In what ways have the club actively tried to crush the atmosphere? They let people stand, and they allow Jobber and his drum, I may be missing something but pricing aside (not an excuse for yesterday, and we are fairly competitive for a big championship club) I don't see what they have done wrong.

So what exactly have they done to piss you off?

[The Year Of The Fox]

Hang on a minute though, I believe the prices in the Family Stand froze in the summer yet increased around the rest of the ground.

They should not be favouring families, it's not important who has more disposable income (and your generalising isn't really fair, there are plenty of single males who have less income than some family people) they shouldn't be saying 'well these kind of people have more money so we'll charge them more'.

You've answered your own questions, the pricing is crap and the club have shown numerous times that they're pro-families and anti-single males/standing and singing types. When people don't feel valued by the club and at times, insulted, why would they want to stump up their cash? I cant keep kidding myself anymore, I feel like a mug when I'm giving them my money now because I don't enjoy myself (as much as I try to) and the club couldn't care less. They've actively tried to crush the atmosphere, even if you' like to turn a blind eye to it or pretend it's all a bunch of coincidences and I'm a conspiracy theorist.

I'm also not going to just go in the hope that this time all our fans will have a different attitude and well have miraculously attracted back the sufficient fans to create a good, old school atmosphere. Realistically that is not going to happen. What will continue to happen is there will be a small number of people trying and thousands just putting no effort in.

[The Doctor]

Secondly what do you want from the club? Special prices for young single males? Do you want strippers on the concourse? I don't know what you expect from them, they put on a football match, pricing isn't great, but the young single male has more disposable income than older/married folks with kids.

I know that there were a few differences with the club over things like the Fosse boys and flags, but they allow Jobber and his drum, like it or not, they allow a large number of people to stand in L1 and at the back of the Kop, it is not the clubs fault the hundreds standing in L1 didn't sing anything yesterday, nor that despite the efforts of those at the back in the Kop no chants were really picked up by the rest.

I wouldn't want special prices or strippers on the concourses (although I wouldn't say no), but just to feel like the club actually wants me and my ilk there, to feel appreciated - which is rather hard when all my experiences with the stewards have been that they're utter jobsworths, which I'd be prepared to bet is because of the focus on a family-friendly atmosphere. I've got nothing against trying to get families involved, but it seems the way they're doing it is at expense of those who just want to sing for 90 minutes.

Yes there is L1, but the issues there is the price and that it's season-ticket only: I can't afford that as a student, and I certainly can't justify paying out for a season ticket when I'll probably make 12 games max over the course of a season.

There's a fair degree of the problem due to the attitudes of our fan-base, but tbh the club doesn't really help in that regard.

[David Lowe]

I remember the seasons at Filbert Street under Brian Little when we were in the same position as this season and the atmosphere was excellent even when playing against the bottom sides. One reason was the smaller ground (we obviously can't replicate that now) The second reason was the Kop packed with singers situated next to the away fans. This is what we could have at the KP.

At first it seemed a good thing having the drum/singers in K/L but it is simply not working now. We need the family end and Kop switching ends and get the K/L singers behind the goal. I'm sure there are people in the Kop at the moment who would sing more if they had a group/drum getting them started.

[Tommeh]

Buck stops with L/K with what 7-800 stood, no noise and some of the faces you see coming out of there after the game walking past is embarrasing, completely dominated by 13-18 group presumably in there for rep at school. I left in 2010 and can't believe what has happened to it.

[The Year Of The Fox]

Buck stops with L/K with what 7-800 stood, no noise and some of the faces you see coming out of there after the game walking past is embarrasing, completely dominated by 13-18 group presumably in there for rep at school. I left in 2010 and can't believe what has happened to it.

I remember there being a fair few new comers this season, going on what was said on here about joining l block. Its these fans who've come in and expected the atmosphere to be great without them needing to contribute. They're the ones at fault. It is really shit up there at the mo

[Captain...]

I wouldn't want special prices or strippers on the concourses (although I wouldn't say no), but just to feel like the club actually wants me and my ilk there, to feel appreciated - which is rather hard when all my experiences with the stewards have been that they're utter jobsworths, which I'd be prepared to bet is because of the focus on a family-friendly atmosphere. I've got nothing against trying to get families involved, but it seems the way they're doing it is at expense of those who just want to sing for 90 minutes.

Yes there is L1, but the issues there is the price and that it's season-ticket only: I can't afford that as a student, and I certainly can't justify paying out for a season ticket when I'll probably make 12 games max over the course of a season.

There's a fair degree of the problem due to the attitudes of our fan-base, but tbh the club doesn't really help in that regard.

If the issue is price, go in the Kop, it's cheaper and there were plenty trying to make noise in there yesterday, and plenty standing up at the top.

As mentioned there were 700-800 standing in L1 yesterday not singing, not moving, and that is nothing the club has done.

We all know that things like unreserved seating, and safe standing could help but these things don't exist in modern football, that is not the club's fault. What have the stewards done that stopped you from feeling welcome?

The point I'm trying to make is blaming the club makes no sense, we had enough bodies together all standing and they did nothing.

[LCFC FOX]

The atmosphere is bad because I'm sure the first person to try starting off a chant feels like a total tw@t. Then when know one knows the words he doesn't carry it on and doesn't start them. I would to know who will be shouting at the top of their head at the Burton game

[anotherharboroughfox]

The atmosphere is bad because I'm sure the first person to try starting off a chant feels like a total tw@t. Then when know one knows the words he doesn't carry it on and doesn't start them. I would to know who will be shouting at the top of their head at the Burton game

If this is the case then they don't actually want to create an atmosphere?

I personally don't feel like a twat starting off any chant because I get bored standing in silence. I'll happily sing on my own as I did many times on Saturday. Don't get why people were laughing at me though. Morons.

L/K is all about image now, lads my age (17/18) go there 'cause they think they look 'ard, and then spend pretty much the whole time on their phones, before once every 20 mins giving the away fans some 'BANTOH' about being quieter than us, when they are actually much louder. Atleast that's my view from the last two games.

[whoareyaaa]

There used to be 3 blokes in L1 who always used to get chants going, don't know if they are still there now though... it was always good back then, theres more people standing now but less noise... weird.

[The Doctor]

If the issue is price, go in the Kop, it's cheaper and there were plenty trying to make noise in there yesterday, and plenty standing up at the top.

As mentioned there were 700-800 standing in L1 yesterday not singing, not moving, and that is nothing the club has done.

We all know that things like unreserved seating, and safe standing could help but these things don't exist in modern football, that is not the club's fault. What have the stewards done that stopped you from feeling welcome?

The point I'm trying to make is blaming the club makes no sense, we had enough bodies together all standing and they did nothing.

I do go in the kop, the issue is that L1 seems the easier place to be able to stand and sing, with less interference from stewards.

No, as I've said there is a fair bit of blame got to lie on the shoulders of the fans - regardless of the way the club is going, they aren't putting the effort in but the club do nothing to encourage people to do so.

As for the what have the stewards done bit - I've seen people blocked from entering because of the scarf they were wearing, had things confiscated on the flimsiest of reasoning (confetti - might throw it at the away fans, despite they were in SK1 at the time) - which btw I would happily wager was down to who they were,

I've seen one chap get banned for 5 games for sitting in the wrong ****ing seat, despite that we were under capacity by 10k, there was a wealth of seating around where they were and the seat they were in and the seat they were allocated were in the same section - i.e. they cost the same price.

Then there's also one chap getting ejected, banned for 4 games and sent to the cop-shop for what was nothing more than putting his arm round a steward - something they claimed was common assault. IIRC when he then appealed that, not only was the CCTV footage rather conveniently lost, their ban was extended.

As I've said - my experiences with the stewards have been entirely negative, and if you look at other people's experiences, and the general view of Barclay amongst the fans, I'm not in the minority on that front.

[Captain...]

I do go in the kop, the issue is that L1 seems the easier place to be able to stand and sing, with less interference from stewards.

No, as I've said there is a fair bit of blame got to lie on the shoulders of the fans - regardless of the way the club is going, they aren't putting the effort in but the club do nothing to encourage people to do so.

As for the what have the stewards done bit - I've seen people blocked from entering because of the scarf they were wearing, had things confiscated on the flimsiest of reasoning (confetti - might throw it at the away fans, despite they were in SK1 at the time) - which btw I would happily wager was down to who they were,

I've seen one chap get banned for 5 games for sitting in the wrong ****ing seat, despite that we were under capacity by 10k, there was a wealth of seating around where they were and the seat they were in and the seat they were allocated were in the same section - i.e. they cost the same price.

Then there's also one chap getting ejected, banned for 4 games and sent to the cop-shop for what was nothing more than putting his arm round a steward - something they claimed was common assault. IIRC when he then appealed that, not only was the CCTV footage rather conveniently lost, their ban was extended.

As I've said - my experiences with the stewards have been entirely negative, and if you look at other people's experiences, and the general view of Barclay amongst the fans, I'm not in the minority on that front.

Fair enough, I've not had problems with the security for years and not seen any, but that obviously doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Did they club get involved in any of these cases? I always thought they were a private firm that provided the security.

[Guest Bilo]

Fair enough, I've not had problems with the security for years and not seen any, but that obviously doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Did they club get involved in any of these cases? I always thought they were a private firm that provided the security.

I believe Showsec provided it while we were at Filbo, but the stewards are now employed directly by the club.

I do go in the kop, the issue is that L1 seems the easier place to be able to stand and sing, with less interference from stewards.

No, as I've said there is a fair bit of blame got to lie on the shoulders of the fans - regardless of the way the club is going, they aren't putting the effort in but the club do nothing to encourage people to do so.

As for the what have the stewards done bit - I've seen people blocked from entering because of the scarf they were wearing, had things confiscated on the flimsiest of reasoning (confetti - might throw it at the away fans, despite they were in SK1 at the time) - which btw I would happily wager was down to who they were,

I've seen one chap get banned for 5 games for sitting in the wrong ****ing seat, despite that we were under capacity by 10k, there was a wealth of seating around where they were and the seat they were in and the seat they were allocated were in the same section - i.e. they cost the same price.

Then there's also one chap getting ejected, banned for 4 games and sent to the cop-shop for what was nothing more than putting his arm round a steward - something they claimed was common assault. IIRC when he then appealed that, not only was the CCTV footage rather conveniently lost, their ban was extended.

As I've said - my experiences with the stewards have been entirely negative, and if you look at other people's experiences, and the general view of Barclay amongst the fans, I'm not in the minority on that front.

Exactly.

These are hardly the actions of a club that wants to promote atmosphere.

[C-man]

The Kop needs a couple of Capos.

[The Doctor]

Fair enough, I've not had problems with the security for years and not seen any, but that obviously doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Did they club get involved in any of these cases? I always thought they were a private firm that provided the security.

The security is in house nowadays, and the latter two (with the bans) the club certainly got involved with.