What has happened to the Atmosphere at the King Power?

[Trav Le Bleu]

Just a point to add. Barnsley didn't bring many and I certainly didn't hear them, even when they were ahead. Probably, in part, this contributed to the atmosphere.

[Kitchandro]

You want cheaper prices go in the Kop, surely you can understand offering cheaper tickets for those bringing kids, I am generalising but on average a young single male (with a job, no kids, no mortgage, no wife) should have more disposable income.

In what ways have the club actively tried to crush the atmosphere? They let people stand, and they allow Jobber and his drum, I may be missing something but pricing aside (not an excuse for yesterday, and we are fairly competitive for a big championship club) I don't see what they have done wrong.

So what exactly have they done to piss you off?

That is not a good enough reason for the family stand to be cheaper. Cheaper for kids fair enough, I don't mind them getting in free, but a fiver cheaper for everyone just because it's the family stand? That's utter shit. Why should adults get in cheaper there just because they may have less money? How much money do you think young men (teenagers for example) have? A lot of them dont have full time jobs.

If the Kop is so cheap why are there far more empty seats in there than years gone by? Even in League one that used to be pretty much full every game. In any case, that's exactly my point, if they are pricing me out in the traditionally atmospheric area of the ground then they've won. If I move to the Kop or the family stand, or don't go, I'm one less trouble-making stander in the East Stand.

They let Jobber in L so that means they're not trying to crush the atmosphere? I'm not convinced Jobber doesn't make it worse. Look at how expensive tickets are in J. Smacks of trying to stop the atmosphere spreading to there, similarly in K where the prices have gone up again. The anti-Fosse Boys agenda was as clear as day. Goal music (Im talking the club as a whole here, not just the current owners). For cup games they've been known to close L (even for the Man City game). Very strict rules on bringing in flags etc. Health and safety being the excuse for not allowing things yet not explaining it what way it's unhealthy or unsafe.

The extent which they let people stand is highly debateable, I'd suggest there's actually very little they can do about it. What they have done by raising the prices continuously is attempted to make it weaker and convince people to move somewhere else or not go at all. In their ideal world, nobody would be standing in that area of the ground and you know it. If they could make our standing support in that area smaller they know it would be easier to enforce sitting.

[Matt]

I think if you go around the clubs the majority of fans of other clubs ask the same question.

I think the answers and reasons are down to some of the opinions in this thread - http://www.foxestalk...bout-leicester/

It's not just Leicester it's every/most clubs around the country.

I enjoy away games more because it's a day out, it's somewhere different, have a piss up (That's optional but part of the away day for me), have a shout, have a laugh, I don't enjoy home games half as much.

[L1HT]

Its entirely the clubs fault. I'll tell you what they've done

1. Ticket prices obviously

2. ST only in L1 - people who can't afford ST and save up for a match which they're then well up for cant get in main singing sectioin

3. Goal music - the PRIME TIME to start a chant destroyed by some music over tannoy. This is the time most people will chant, by the time they've LISTENED (not joined in!) with goal music that moments gone. Then they have to wait some more for the pathetic poznan to finish. That could be over a minute and then the moments lost. You've got to strike whilst the irons hot but at the moment 2 obstacles in the way

4. Hey Jude - the second most PRIME TIME for the atmosphere to start - whatever happens here sets the tone for rest of game

5. Promoting scarves like 'we love you' - no one else embarrased V derby when both sets of fans chanting the same generic chants with no lyrics. Wooaaah Woooaahh oooooo oooooo

Days like yesterday when people cant be in the mood to chant anyway, the only times I slightly did were destroyed by club planned tannoy crap.

I would normally slag off there being a drum but actually Jobber doesn't try to dictate like the england band do.

[C-man]

Like Matt says above it isn't just a Filbert Way problem, it's countrywide.

I don't know if anyone else noticed it but until the last 20 minutes at the Etihad the atmosphere was piss-poor. Considering they were 2-0 up in a local derby, United's away support in particular was chronic.

Chants these days are awful aswell. Absolutely nothing about them, just childish and inane chaviness:

- 'Shelvey, knock him out...'

- 'You're a cvnt Robin, you're a cvnt'

- 'If you're watching on the tele you're a cvnt'

- 'Loyal supporters'

- 'You're shit, and you know you are'

- 'Let's go fvcking mental'

All pathetic. Considering the average age and income of supporters is on the up, it does seem strange that chants are becoming more retarded by the week.

[Maybes]

C-Man for South Stand Capo!

[accessory]

That is not a good enough reason for the family stand to be cheaper. Cheaper for kids fair enough, I don't mind them getting in free, but a fiver cheaper for everyone just because it's the family stand? That's utter shit. Why should adults get in cheaper there just because they may have less money? How much money do you think young men (teenagers for example) have? A lot of them dont have full time jobs.

If the Kop is so cheap why are there far more empty seats in there than years gone by? Even in League one that used to be pretty much full every game. In any case, that's exactly my point, if they are pricing me out in the traditionally atmospheric area of the ground then they've won. If I move to the Kop or the family stand, or don't go, I'm one less trouble-making stander in the East Stand.

When Kop prices went up in the summer quite a few fans moved to the other end to avoid paying the increase. It's notable how many more gaps there are in the Kop this season, and fewer in the family stand.

They let Jobber in L so that means they're not trying to crush the atmosphere? I'm not convinced Jobber doesn't make it worse. Look at how expensive tickets are in J. Smacks of trying to stop the atmosphere spreading to there, similarly in K where the prices have gone up again. The anti-Fosse Boys agenda was as clear as day. Goal music (Im talking the club as a whole here, not just the current owners). For cup games they've been known to close L (even for the Man City game). Very strict rules on bringing in flags etc. Health and safety being the excuse for not allowing things yet not explaining it what way it's unhealthy or unsafe.

L1 was shut for segregation purposes because it was a cup game and therefore Man City were entitled to more tickets. Agree with you completely on the Fosse Boys. The club were determined to smash them and too many of us stood by and let it happen.

The extent which they let people stand is highly debateable, I'd suggest there's actually very little they can do about it. What they have done by raising the prices continuously is attempted to make it weaker and convince people to move somewhere else or not go at all. In their ideal world, nobody would be standing in that area of the ground and you know it. If they could make our standing support in that area smaller they know it would be easier to enforce sitting.

But the folk in L1 and K have a choice. Nobody forces them to buy a ticket for that area. If they choose to do so it's no wonder the club charges a premium - among other things, the extra money helps to fund additional stewards.

Whether they stand or sit is immaterial, but the collective laryngitis that kicked in after Barnsley's equaliser was extremely disturbing, as much as any events on the field.

[glen parva fox]

Burton game may be a good one to get everyone back in the kop as half the ground will be closed, what do you think?

[promised land]

Burton game may be a good one to get everyone back in the kop as half the ground will be closed, what do you think?

As far as I know the kop is closed, only West stand and family open to home supporters.

[LCFC FOX]

Burton game may be a good one to get everyone back in the kop as half the ground will be closed, what do you think?

Everyone is is standing in the back of P2 in the family stand matey. KOP is shut

[Captain...]

Prices, l1 being season ticket only, that's why nobody sings?

Prices are higher in more popular areas, basic market principles, sadly, but football is a business, we stop paying those prices and sell out on fan fixtures then maybe they would think about it, but when we get higher attendances for bigger more expensive fixtures, then you can only expect them to raise the price.

It's not the club's fault that all the season tickets for l1 were bought, seemingly by people with no knees and no larynxes.

Most of the problems in this thread are universal problems with modern football and modern stadia, if we had all stayed in the kop after the move rather than spread out across the ground I reckon it would be rocking by now, but we divided ourselves.

Know we have to accept the consequences and the blame and stop blaming the club, they want a good atmosphere, and do a lot to try and promote, whether you agree with it or not, and yes they have to take some of the blame for having the away fans not next to the kop, but they don't stop anyone from singing.

So what to do? We have people trying to organise a singing section for the Burton game, some saying P block others saying kop, but it till fail because there is no coordination. Sorry lads but you are reaching a fraction of what will be a very small crowd by posting on here.

What else can we do? Well we currently have unprecedented access to the players with twitter, we have a local radio DJ/sports reporter that visits the site occasionally in stringer, we have DJ willy puller/random silly nonsense who is also a sports journalist we have others who are connected to the club, combined this could exert enough pressure on the club to actually do something whether it be get rid of hey Jude, replace it with something else, get rid of goal music or even move the away fans, some more likely than others.

Others things that could be done, everyone moans about when your smiling being sung to fast ruined by jersey budd, I bet there is enough talent on here to record a better version make a video get it played at the kp, heroes in blue and white got quite a few airings.

What else can be done? Get a campaign going, like the Poznan on 26 minutes for man city, the Di matteo chant on 16 minutes, a few years back there was Liverpool singing for 6 minutes, I think, in support of the Dockers, spread the word through all the forums, around the ground, hand out flyers at the game, with the lyrics printed on, on the 10th minute of every match we sing when your smiling.

Whatever, there are many things people could do to improve the atmosphere, whining on here, blaming the club, and not going to home matches aren't amongst them.

I'm going to try and leave this debate for now, but it really is only the fans that can change the atmosphere.

[EnglishOxide]

I do go in the kop, the issue is that L1 seems the easier place to be able to stand and sing, with less interference from stewards.

No, as I've said there is a fair bit of blame got to lie on the shoulders of the fans - regardless of the way the club is going, they aren't putting the effort in but the club do nothing to encourage people to do so.

As for the what have the stewards done bit - I've seen people blocked from entering because of the scarf they were wearing, had things confiscated on the flimsiest of reasoning (confetti - might throw it at the away fans, despite they were in SK1 at the time) - which btw I would happily wager was down to who they were,

I've seen one chap get banned for 5 games for sitting in the wrong ****ing seat, despite that we were under capacity by 10k, there was a wealth of seating around where they were and the seat they were in and the seat they were allocated were in the same section - i.e. they cost the same price.

Then there's also one chap getting ejected, banned for 4 games and sent to the cop-shop for what was nothing more than putting his arm round a steward - something they claimed was common assault. IIRC when he then appealed that, not only was the CCTV footage rather conveniently lost, their ban was extended.

As I've said - my experiences with the stewards have been entirely negative, and if you look at other people's experiences, and the general view of Barclay amongst the fans, I'm not in the minority on that front.

This post, for the most part is a load of shit.

The only true part is the confetti bit, and even then, if i recall, it was because the guy was carrying plastic bags full of the stuff. And the reasoning was most probably down to 'fire risk'.

[Voll Blau]

Prices, l1 being season ticket only, that's why nobody sings?

Prices are higher in more popular areas, basic market principles, sadly, but football is a business, we stop paying those prices and sell out on fan fixtures then maybe they would think about it, but when we get higher attendances for bigger more expensive fixtures, then you can only expect them to raise the price.

It's not the club's fault that all the season tickets for l1 were bought, seemingly by people with no knees and no larynxes.

Most of the problems in this thread are universal problems with modern football and modern stadia, if we had all stayed in the kop after the move rather than spread out across the ground I reckon it would be rocking by now, but we divided ourselves.

Know we have to accept the consequences and the blame and stop blaming the club, they want a good atmosphere, and do a lot to try and promote, whether you agree with it or not, and yes they have to take some of the blame for having the away fans not next to the kop, but they don't stop anyone from singing.

So what to do? We have people trying to organise a singing section for the Burton game, some saying P block others saying kop, but it till fail because there is no coordination. Sorry lads but you are reaching a fraction of what will be a very small crowd by posting on here.

What else can we do? Well we currently have unprecedented access to the players with twitter, we have a local radio DJ/sports reporter that visits the site occasionally in stringer, we have DJ willy puller/random silly nonsense who is also a sports journalist we have others who are connected to the club, combined this could exert enough pressure on the club to actually do something whether it be get rid of hey Jude, replace it with something else, get rid of goal music or even move the away fans, some more likely than others.

Others things that could be done, everyone moans about when your smiling being sung to fast ruined by jersey budd, I bet there is enough talent on here to record a better version make a video get it played at the kp, heroes in blue and white got quite a few airings.

What else can be done? Get a campaign going, like the Poznan on 26 minutes for man city, the Di matteo chant on 16 minutes, a few years back there was Liverpool singing for 6 minutes, I think, in support of the Dockers, spread the word through all the forums, around the ground, hand out flyers at the game, with the lyrics printed on, on the 10th minute of every match we sing when your smiling.

Whatever, there are many things people could do to improve the atmosphere, whining on here, blaming the club, and not going to home matches aren't amongst them.

I'm going to try and leave this debate for now, but it really is only the fans that can change the atmosphere.

I agree that it is ultimately the fans' responsibility, but to say the club want a good atmosphere is simply not true.

Any attempt at supporter organisation in the new ground has been stamped out by them (well, one bloke in particular) with an almost ferocious zeal.

[1964FOX]

I agree that it is ultimately the fans' responsibility, but to say the club want a good atmosphere is simply not true.

Any attempt at supporter organisation in the new ground has been stamped out by them (well, one bloke in particular) with an almost ferocious zeal.

To be fair KB could have been brought on side but with the Fosse Boys for example the young uns wanted too much too quick with no compromise and they accept that now. He wasn't without blame and took earl opportunity to pressurise the group but we allowed that. Ther was one steward that was an idiot but the rest were fine. We just ad to play the game and Kev would have come round. Annoys me because it could hav been good and we were offered some good incentives but the group as a whole didn't take them. If I could go back I wouldn't have taken such a back seat in the group.

[The Doctor]

This post, for the most part is a load of shit.

The only true part is the confetti bit, and even then, if i recall, it was because the guy was carrying plastic bags full of the stuff. And the reasoning was most probably down to 'fire risk'.

Well, it isn't. The mercury reported on the first one, so for you to claim it didn't happen is ridiculous - and the last two did happen, i can assure you that, as can a number of people on this forum.

[promised land]

So what finally happened to the Fosse Boys?

Are they still in the corner of the kop (without the flag) or dispersed around the ground.

As for moving the away fans as stated higher up, isn't this down mainly to the Police and getting the fans in and out with the easiest forcing, that is why they're in that corner.

[Poakey]

This post, for the most part is a load of shit.

The only true part is the confetti bit, and even then, if i recall, it was because the guy was carrying plastic bags full of the stuff. And the reasoning was most probably down to 'fire risk'.

Did you have time off on these occasions then? Because they happenend.

[Guest Bilo]

So what finally happened to the Fosse Boys?

Are they still in the corner of the kop (without the flag) or dispersed around the ground.

As for moving the away fans as stated higher up, isn't this down mainly to the Police and getting the fans in and out with the easiest forcing, that is why they're in that corner.

Away fans are placed in that corner because it's nearest the road and is therefore easier to get them out at the end of the game.

The Kop was placed at the other end of the stadium on police advice apparently, but with L1 growing unexpectedly that decision has been undermined over the past 10 years.

Oh, and the group disbanded at the end of the 10-11 season. Most of the group don't actually live in Leicestershire any more due to work and university etc.

[David Lowe]

Away fans are placed in that corner because it's nearest the road and is therefore easier to get them out at the end of the game.

The Kop was placed at the other end of the stadium on police advice apparently, but with L1 growing unexpectedly that decision has been undermined over the past 10 years.

Oh, and the group disbanded at the end of the 10-11 season. Most of the group don't actually live in Leicestershire any more due to work and university etc.

Yes, the main singing section is now next to the away fans so they might as well change the Kop to the other end.

[Dan]

Hang on a minute though, I believe the prices in the Family Stand froze in the summer yet increased around the rest of the ground.

They should not be favouring families, it's not important who has more disposable income (and your generalising isn't really fair, there are plenty of single males who have less income than some family people) they shouldn't be saying 'well these kind of people have more money so we'll charge them more'.

You've answered your own questions, the pricing is crap and the club have shown numerous times that they're pro-families and anti-single males/standing and singing types. When people don't feel valued by the club and at times, insulted, why would they want to stump up their cash? I cant keep kidding myself anymore, I feel like a mug when I'm giving them my money now because I don't enjoy myself (as much as I try to) and the club couldn't care less. They've actively tried to crush the atmosphere, even if you' like to turn a blind eye to it or pretend it's all a bunch of coincidences and I'm a conspiracy theorist.

I'm also not going to just go in the hope that this time all our fans will have a different attitude and well have miraculously attracted back the sufficient fans to create a good, old school atmosphere. Realistically that is not going to happen. What will continue to happen is there will be a small number of people trying and thousands just putting no effort in.

You save me so much effort. I literally don't think you've ever said a word on the matter I disagree with.

[Dan]

L1 was shut for segregation purposes because it was a cup game and therefore Man City were entitled to more tickets. Agree with you completely on the Fosse Boys. The club were determined to smash them and too many of us stood by and let it happen..

The fans were almost as pathetic as the club when it came to the FB. I can bet your life a good number of the ones who called them "cringeworthy & embarrassing" were the same bunch who probably share a lot of their views, they just weren't keen on some of the songs.

What the club were doing to them was nothing other than a disgrace and the fans didn't give two shits because they weren't keen on a couple of the aspects. Don't get me wrong I wasn't massively keen on everything they did, but 90% of it was spot on and I'm yet to see a single thing better from our fans, which says it all.

If the Fosse Boys had started 'we love you' and the Ben Marshall chant, do you think it would've caught on? Me neither.

The attitude displayed by the club and fellow fans towards them pretty much killed any hope I had of us having an atmosphere at our ground in the foreseeable future. In-fact, I literally think it will be shit for absolutely years and that includes if we go up.

[ozleicester]

Its shit, coz im not there anymore..init

[Dan]

Know we have to accept the consequences and the blame and stop blaming the club, they want a good atmosphere, and do a lot to try and promote, whether you agree with it or not, and yes they have to take some of the blame for having the away fans not next to the kop, but they don't stop anyone from singing.

They want a family atmosphere. That is certainly not a good atmosphere for me.

[Jaspa]

They want a family atmosphere. That is certainly not a good atmosphere for me.

They want family fans because they spend more in the long run

I'm amazed people are directly trying to blame the fans energy and vocal support entirely on the people running the club, we need to make the fkin noise. And of course the club don't want a quiet ground just for the sake of it.

They do need to find ways to fill the ground up tho, we are not a pathetically supported club but we do look it sometimes

[J.Lisemore]

As someone else has already pointed out, teenagers and the mid-twenties are the future familys... yet the club do nothing to encourage an atmosphere, which is clearly putting alot of people off. Modern stadiums are the biggest problem in my opinion, its sad to say but we lost our identity when we moved from FB.

As if the club care , aslong as their selling tickets and everyones bums-on-seats, its heaven.