DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 Im not saying we didn't, I'm just saying that a poor atmosphere is a lot more frequent now at the KP then back at Filbert Street. Coupled with the fact that even when the atmosphere is decent at the KP it's very rarely up to the standard of a good atmosphere at Filbert Street even though it had a smaller capacity. A good point made here. Filbert Street had a wonderful atmosphere, partly enhanced by the history of the ground, and the legends who trod it's turf.. It had that unique feel about the place. The King Power holds no such ingredients, and is just another modern piece of architecture, that is a football stadium, that I for one find characterless.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 When their fans start singing 1-0 up and you still dont sing, to which we reply 1-0 up we dont need to song, it tells you what you're up against in l block
Karljohn Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 I don't think the atmosphere got any worse at filbert st if a side like Barnsley came with 300 fans. It was and always will be better than the drum induced crap at the king power.
lavrentis Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 Embarrassing atmosphere, genuinely didn't hear Barnsley once though. Standing does not equate to atmosphere but hardly anyone stands. Yeah granted L1 do but even at the back of the Kop you get people sitting down. Just summed it up when the family stand was doing the poznan after the 1st goal and you could hear the school kids at the end when I was sat at the opposite end of the stadium. No excuses
Kitchandro Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 They sat back at exactly the sane time our fans did. Ie after knocky scored. Both players and fans thought itd ve a routine win. More edgy fans like me knew it wouldn't be, but bar stopping the game and sticking me on the pa system aa delia smith, its hard to convey what to me was an obvious message I'm not saying a relaxed/poor atmosphere doesn't translate onto the pitch, but we can't defend and score goals for them. It's their responsibility to physically do those things and mentally block out what the fans are doing. So obviously we're not as much to blame as the players.
davieG Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 Im not saying we didn't, I'm just saying that a poor atmosphere is a lot more frequent now at the KP then back at Filbert Street. Coupled with the fact that even when the atmosphere is decent at the KP it's very rarely up to the standard of a good atmosphere at Filbert Street even though it had a smaller capacity. Well it depends on what period you're talking about it was pretty dire for a sustained period between 1987 thru to 1991, lets not forget we've had almost 10 lean years here at the KP including our worst ever finishes.
purpleronnie Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 We seem to have a large amount of fans who arent interested in singing, fans that dont stand in L1 who do want to sing simply don't because they think no-one around them will join in, I'm sure if we had one end where all the singers could go it would be miles better but that will never happen so this debate will go on forever no matter how good the team is.
Kitchandro Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 Embarrassing atmosphere, genuinely didn't hear Barnsley once though. Standing does not equate to atmosphere but hardly anyone stands. Yeah granted L1 do but even at the back of the Kop you get people sitting down. Just summed it up when the family stand was doing the poznan after the 1st goal and you could hear the school kids at the end when I was sat at the opposite end of the stadium. No excuses When I went to the Palace game there was more than enough standing - I was actually surprised so many people were doing so in J. But hardly anyone was singing. I don't know what conclusions you can draw from that but I just found it odd how these people appeared to want to be with the atmosphere yet showed no passion for it.
funkyrobot Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 I think that the performance on the pitch dictates the atmosphere. If the team are consistently attacking, playing good football and/or getting stuck in then automatically the crowd react. The kop was rocking when Vardy scored and for the last 5 mins when city were desperately trying to score the winner. The team went flat after knocky's goal and that resulted in a flat atmosphere. Obviously the all seater set up doesn't help, nor does moving away fans as far away from traditionally the loudest section of the city support in the kop, but ultimately if the crowd are entertained and excited then they will react accordingly. Football is an entertainment industry and the level of entertainment will have a massive impact on the atmosphere.
yorkie1999 Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 It was awful, so dead in the first 35 mins! And this is why I wanna sort out standing areas for atmosphere. Leicester remind me of Reading atm There already is a standing area
Guest Col city fan Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 I think that the performance on the pitch dictates the atmosphere. If the team are consistently attacking, playing good football and/or getting stuck in then automatically the crowd react. The kop was rocking when Vardy scored and for the last 5 mins when city were desperately trying to score the winner. The team went flat after knocky's goal and that resulted in a flat atmosphere. Obviously the all seater set up doesn't help, nor does moving away fans as far away from traditionally the loudest section of the city support in the kop, but ultimately if the crowd are entertained and excited then they will react accordingly. Football is an entertainment industry and the level of entertainment will have a massive impact on the atmosphere. If the performance on the pitch dictates the atmosphere it's a sorry state of affairs. I wonder whether Walshy would have scored his late equaliser against the Arsenal after Bergkamp had produced his box of tricks if the Filbert St crowd had had that attitude?
Dan Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 Lets be brutally honest, our fans over-rate our support a silly amount. Numbers wise we're good but noise wise, we've dropped to being average at best and I'm comparing that to every side in this league. Barnsley were as good for their numbers today as we've been anywhere this season, and we're in the play-offs for piss sake.
Kitchandro Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 If the performance on the pitch dictates the atmosphere it's a sorry state of affairs. I wonder whether Walshy would have scored his late equaliser against the Arsenal after Bergkamp had produced his box of tricks if the Filbert St crowd had had that attitude? This. There is no doubt the players affect the crowd and vice versa, but this doesn't excuse either party of not doing their bit. People should go to the football to enjoy themselves. If you're somebody who enjoys a loud atmosphere then why not try to make one? You should know there's a chance the team are going to be boring or crap. Some people just don't have enough passion for their team, if they did they'd get behind them before something happened.
Danny the Fox 95 Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 I think 99% of my posts here have been about atmosphere and this will be the last! Absolutely disgusted to be a Leicester fan right now. Out sung by 50 Barnsley fans says it all. Think I'll start supporting palace a team with real fans and owners that back what they do! Go and support Palace then
Dan Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 The mentality in this country is all wrong. We totally rely on what happens on the pitch to dictate what happens off it and that's killing crowds for me, I'm not saying the whole ground will be bouncing at home to Barnsley but today was an embarrassment. L1 sounded alright to me today, until they equalised...
Dan Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 Go and support Palace then He's got a point though. Obviously he's not gonna go and support Palace but we could learn a thing or two from them. They're not Leeds but the mentality of Palace's support has changed so much for the better, they should be an example for fanbases like ours who are as bad as I ever remember it.
ScouseFox Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 I think 99% of my posts here have been about atmosphere and this will be the last! Absolutely disgusted to be a Leicester fan right now. Out sung by 50 Barnsley fans says it all. Think I'll start supporting palace a team with real fans and owners that back what they do!
Danny the Fox 95 Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 He's got a point though. Obviously he's not gonna go and support Palace but we could learn a thing or two from them. They're not Leeds but the mentality of Palace's support has changed so much for the better, they should be an example for fanbases like ours who are as bad as I ever remember it. Palace have a good atmosphere partly due to Selhurst Park and Ultras. We have a modern ground which makes it very hard to generate atmosphere unfortunately.
Yojoe36 Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 It's fvcking embarrassing. Yet I hear complete and utter dickheads booing at half-time. And don't give me this "Hurr durr, I bought a ticket, I have a right to boo" Only fans should buy tickets, you tosser. We're sitting in the play-offs, waaay above pre-season expectations. We make Wigan look good.
Dan Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 Palace have a good atmosphere partly due to Selhurst Park and Ultras. We have a modern ground which makes it very hard to generate atmosphere unfortunately. Nothing other than an excuse that mate. There is absolutely no reason that our fans can't be better than Palace's - we just don't collectively want to be. I disagree about atmosphere too, I actually think this ground can hold a decent one, there's just never one created nowadays.
Webbo Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 Just what this forum needs, another thread about how crap the atmosphere is at the KP.
Kitchandro Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 Forget Palace, why are we worse than we used to be? Things have definitely got worse, attendance and atmosphere-wise, that is the sad thing. I don't know why people go on about Palace like they're at their home games every week. But in fairness, their 'ultras' if that's what you want to call them have the right attitude.
SARICE22 Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 Here is a small list of the reasons why. Too many middle to old age people, youngsters cannot afford to go. Tickets far to high, empty seats/empty ends. No home standing supporter end. The away supporters corner has a better atmosphere. We may have got rid of the young so called hooligans but replace the support with dull middle class bores.
David Lowe Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 I could list a large number of chants sang regularly in the Filbert Street days. Now all we seem to have is the Ben Marshall one (who can't even get in the team) and the scarf waving one.
Craig Posted 8 December 2012 Posted 8 December 2012 Here is a small list of the reasons why. Too many middle to old age people, youngsters cannot afford to go. Tickets far to high, empty seats/empty ends. No home standing supporter end. The away supporters corner has a better atmosphere. We may have got rid of the young so called hooligans but replace the support with dull middle class bores. That may be the case usually, but not today. Today was a chance for our part-time support to give our marketing gurus a resounding 'thumbs up' to sensible pricing, but no.
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