What has happened to the Atmosphere at the King Power?

[jmono84]

Ok some advice... I currently sit in SK1 with my bro and I constantly find myself being positive and Singing alone!! About 30% of the tjme the atmosphere is brill but I'm not sure it's enough... Would you suggest we move nearer to L1 and become another voice in the crowd or stick where we are in the hope the fans around the "kop" start to find their voices!

[The Year Of The Fox]

Ok some advice... I currently sit in SK1 with my bro and I constantly find myself being positive and Singing alone!! About 30% of the tjme the atmosphere is brill but I'm not sure it's enough... Would you suggest we move nearer to L1 and become another voice in the crowd or stick where we are in the hope the fans around the "kop" start to find their voices!

Both are lost causes

[Rincewind]

When the KP first opened I heard that the acoustics were not as good as Filbert Street so the noise filtered away. In a small closed in ground the noise is kept in. I used to hear the crowd from quite a distance away at FS. I think KP was OK to start with. A few bad seasons must have dampened the spirit and vocal chords of some fans.

[lavrentis]

The booing at half time was a disgrace

[Lobsterboyuk]

Ok some advice... I currently sit in SK1 with my bro and I constantly find myself being positive and Singing alone!! About 30% of the tjme the atmosphere is brill but I'm not sure it's enough... Would you suggest we move nearer to L1 and become another voice in the crowd or stick where we are in the hope the fans around the "kop" start to find their voices!

We moved to K1 this season from P2, bit disappointed. Most chants it sounds like about 20 or less of us having a go at getting it going, The WYS efforts truly break my heart RIP the atmosphere

[1964FOX]

Both are lost causes

How very dare you call me a lost cause you bounder.

[promised land]

Talking of atmosphere I don't really know where to post this but has anyone else watching tonight's MNF at Craven Cottage just heard the 'don't sell Knockaert' song being sung?

Not sure which set of fans but other than the name all the words sounded the same.

11.30 mins into the game

[The Year Of The Fox]

Talking of atmosphere I don't really know where to post this but has anyone else watching tonight's MNF at Craven Cottage just heard the 'don't sell Knockaert' song being sung?

Not sure which set of fans but other than the name all the words sounded the same.

We werent the fans who created it

[promised land]

I understand that just never heard it since we have started singing it.

Sounded a bit weird surfing the net and that going on in the background.

Forgot where I was for a nano second although I have never sat with an iPad at a match yet!

[RonnieTodger]

I think Celtic started that with "Don't Sell McCourt" at Norwich in a friendly.

[KingPowerLCFC1884]

Ok some advice... I currently sit in SK1 with my bro and I constantly find myself being positive and Singing alone!! About 30% of the tjme the atmosphere is brill but I'm not sure it's enough... Would you suggest we move nearer to L1 and become another voice in the crowd or stick where we are in the hope the fans around the "kop" start to find their voices!

your not that irritating guy who sits near the top of the stand are you?

[jonthefox]

How far across towards P1 do people stand?

I sit in P1 and i'd say about 10/15 or so were standing at the derby game.

[Voll Blau]

I think Celtic started that with "Don't Sell McCourt" at Norwich in a friendly.

Man United did it for Park a couple of years ago.

Mancs and Scousers are way ahead of everyone else in England for originality. Shame how everyone else just settles for copying their chants...

[anotherharboroughfox]

With the amount of people on here who are 'concerned' with the atmosphere we could create a decent one.

Just open your mouths and don't shut up until people join in. It works, eventually

[C-man]

C-Man for South Stand Capo!

I do take everyone's point that the Club and the ground do not do much for any meaningful atmosphere, of course. As said by a number of posters, the pre-match and goal music is unnecessary, the treatment of N block and the Fosse Boys more recently was a disgrace, and the bias towards families and against 16-30 year olds is painfully short-sighted, but I do have some sympathy for the club.

They try to let a few things slide. They let L1 stand uninhibited. In recent seasons they have left me alone in SK1 as the first row of standing where previously they had targeted me. They allow a drum - which I believe if played properly could vastly improve the atmosphere. Obviously they are fearful of any sort of organisation - hence the price increases in L1 and the quashing of the Fosse Boys - but we, as fans, must take more responsibility.

We live in an age where organisation is easy. If a bunch of Egyptians can use social media to spark a revolution, using resources such as Foxestalk, Facebook and Twitter should make fan mobilisation a piece of piss. Maybe we don't need a dedicated 'Ultras' group. Maybe we don't need the Kop to migrate to L1 or vice versa. Maybe all we need is a thread on here or Facebook where people say before each game what they are going to do to improve the atmosphere.

I'm sure loads of us have dozens of ideas each week about how we could improve the atmosphere. That, in part, is why our new chants thread is 200+ pages, and we have several atmosphere threads at any given time. Good ideas will take off. i.e. the Ben Marshall, Knockaert, and WYL chants. Other ideas don't get the airtime and are lost.

Our next home game is against Cardiff. A game that could well shape the rest of our season. Win it, and we would surely be potential title contenders. Cardiff will bring a mob, and us as fans need to be on top form.

It's all well and good saying this and that should be done, but I would happily take more responsibility for the atmosphere in SK1. I know several of the lads (who also post on here) who stand behind me will back me up on any chant. It would be great if we could get 2/3 other lads in each block in the Kop to ensure that there is never silence (even better if they could somehow coordinate to sing the same songs, although I have no idea how that would happen without a megaphone).

So yes, Maybes, I will be South Stand capo

[1964FOX]

C-man is our Capo

C-man is our capo

In SK1

In SK1

[Floating Fox]

Don't post much but thought I should throw my two penneth in...

This post, for the most part is a load of shit.

The only true part is the confetti bit, and even then, if i recall, it was because the guy was carrying plastic bags full of the stuff. And the reasoning was most probably down to 'fire risk'.

All of what he said was true. I can vouch for that.

The fans were almost as pathetic as the club when it came to the FB. I can bet your life a good number of the ones who called them "cringeworthy & embarrassing" were the same bunch who probably share a lot of their views, they just weren't keen on some of the songs.

What the club were doing to them was nothing other than a disgrace and the fans didn't give two shits because they weren't keen on a couple of the aspects. Don't get me wrong I wasn't massively keen on everything they did, but 90% of it was spot on and I'm yet to see a single thing better from our fans, which says it all.

If the Fosse Boys had started 'we love you' and the Ben Marshall chant, do you think it would've caught on? Me neither.

The attitude displayed by the club and fellow fans towards them pretty much killed any hope I had of us having an atmosphere at our ground in the foreseeable future. In-fact, I literally think it will be shit for absolutely years and that includes if we go up.

Absolutly spot on. We were always labelled as a "bunch of kids" and riled from the off. We had a lot of songs similar to WLY & Ben marshall chant which if people gave them half a chance would have been great.

RE: What 1964 put about the meetings with the clubs - There was a charter drawn up, but it meant giving up several things that we had set out to do in the first place. I remember one of the rules of the charter was we had to sit down during points of the game? (Yet it's ok for L1 to stand all the time?) Some "Ultra" group we'd have been! The idea of having a membership card for a group that didnt really exist beyond a few lads (at the time) was ridiculous, we'd never have got half the people onboard that we did if you had to pay extra to come and be with us! And before we had a chance to develop the club stabbed us in the back by going against the "charter" & other things such as targetting our leaders. Once you've been ejected (and booed by your own fans) simply for trying to improve the atmosphere, improve peoples matchday experience, do you think these guys want to come back in a rush?

All we asked for was to be given our own section of the ground and be allowed flags, flagpoles, banners and a very small drum.

I saw someone post about how the new owners have taken strides to improve the atmosphere? But I'm still skeptical on this...they are only bothered about money (new tv screens = more advert monies)...i don't think they are that fussed if there is an atmosphere at the KP.

And to all the lads in N1 trying to start something. The idea is fantastic, and when we tried to create the singing section there, it actually worked! For a few games there was hundreds stood in the family stand and it was even published on lcfc.com as the singing section) but the club soon came up with Bulls**t and again, targetted the leaders ejected them and soon it died a death. Once there is a big enough group to cause the club a problem they will move in and put you to bed. It's sat but true.

I would love to see a proper unified singing area back at Filbert way, but do i believe that can happen while certain individuals are at the club? No.

Should have saved this for my 10'000th post....damn!!

[Floating Fox]

C-man...you make very good points about social media...someone think of a witty hashtag

[Bettsj2]

I do take everyone's point that the Club and the ground do not do much for any meaningful atmosphere, of course. As said by a number of posters, the pre-match and goal music is unnecessary, the treatment of N block and the Fosse Boys more recently was a disgrace, and the bias towards families and against 16-30 year olds is painfully short-sighted, but I do have some sympathy for the club.

They try to let a few things slide. They let L1 stand uninhibited. In recent seasons they have left me alone in SK1 as the first row of standing where previously they had targeted me. They allow a drum - which I believe if played properly could vastly improve the atmosphere. Obviously they are fearful of any sort of organisation - hence the price increases in L1 and the quashing of the Fosse Boys - but we, as fans, must take more responsibility.

We live in an age where organisation is easy. If a bunch of Egyptians can use social media to spark a revolution, using resources such as Foxestalk, Facebook and Twitter should make fan mobilisation a piece of piss. Maybe we don't need a dedicated 'Ultras' group. Maybe we don't need the Kop to migrate to L1 or vice versa. Maybe all we need is a thread on here or Facebook where people say before each game what they are going to do to improve the atmosphere.

I'm sure loads of us have dozens of ideas each week about how we could improve the atmosphere. That, in part, is why our new chants thread is 200+ pages, and we have several atmosphere threads at any given time. Good ideas will take off. i.e. the Ben Marshall, Knockaert, and WYL chants. Other ideas don't get the airtime and are lost.

Our next home game is against Cardiff. A game that could well shape the rest of our season. Win it, and we would surely be potential title contenders. Cardiff will bring a mob, and us as fans need to be on top form.

It's all well and good saying this and that should be done, but I would happily take more responsibility for the atmosphere in SK1. I know several of the lads (who also post on here) who stand behind me will back me up on any chant. It would be great if we could get 2/3 other lads in each block in the Kop to ensure that there is never silence (even better if they could somehow coordinate to sing the same songs, although I have no idea how that would happen without a megaphone).

So yes, Maybes, I will be South Stand capo

THIS all day long. Wasnt that how the Poznan before the game away at Forest last year got going?

Ok some advice... I currently sit in SK1 with my bro and I constantly find myself being positive and Singing alone!! About 30% of the tjme the atmosphere is brill but I'm not sure it's enough... Would you suggest we move nearer to L1 and become another voice in the crowd or stick where we are in the hope the fans around the "kop" start to find their voices!

Move.

[Captain...]

Basically we had formal meetings with the club and agreed to form the group in SK1. There were things we didn't agree on but both sides said they would move on and a compromise would be sought. There is no doubt KB was apprehensive but I genuinely think we could have got he compromise we needed and with time slowly slipped in what we originally wanted. Problem was a few in the group were idealistic young lads who saw it as a fight against authority and would not compromise a bit. THis clearly caused bad relations and then underhand tactics from those involved on the clubs side.

As I have said with hindsight I should have taken more control with being older and more experienced to influence the group and push harder for compromise as I genuinely believe it could have worked and SK1 would have a huge Fosse Boys hoarding on the perspex (this was offered but turned down as they wanted it to be sponsored and some of the group objected - I know) and the stairs up to SK1 would have had Fosse Boy logo's and a big sign saying 'Welcome to Fosse Boys corner'.

There was a full agreement or charter signed between the club and the group which would have been the first in the country foirmally recognising an Ultra group and merchandise in the club shop. We were asked to self police ourselves with identified Fosse Boy stewards and there would have been an official emebership card for the group. Who knows what else we could have had.

Unfortunately some of the group didn't like the idea of being registered or self policing but the club needed to know who was in the group and we were allowed to occupy any seat within the section allocated so I understand the need for this. But the refusal to compromise frustrated the club so it went wrong and once the tide turned it was too late.

There were mistakes on both sides but to be fair the club were supportive and actually quite progressive with the group but silly little things just got in the way.

They offered you an unreserved seating section and offered to publicise it!!!!

And you threw it back in their faces, fvcking hell, how many people have been crying out for unreserved seating, ok membership cards aren't ideal, but they still need a way to police it and know how big this section should be.

You should have bitten their fvcking hands off, then by know after a couple of seasons of good behaviour you would have had a lot more leverage and trust.

You fvcked up, you could have worked with the club and really created something, you didn't and now we all suffer, not blaming you or anyone personally, but jeez they offered to turn over the kop, and you said no!!!

As I said before this club are interested in creating a better atmosphere, but they can't jeopardise safety in doing so, you prove we can have an ultras group that can be trusted and work with the club then they will be rewarded, but you have to play the game.

I'm very surprised about how willing the club were to support the fosse boys, and how stubborn not were in Nov accepting their help and compromises.

[purpleronnie]

So are people going to try and organise something?

[Lobsterboyuk]

So are people going to try and organise something?

As has already been said, the Burton match is a great opportunity to see how many still want to have a go at generating an atmosphere. #P2SingSong :xmaswink:

[Dan]

The booing at half time was a disgrace

It was utterly pathetic. Genuinely makes me embarrassed to support us, sick of this crybaby attitude so many fanbases have. Not saying we should go mental for total shit football but come on, look at the table, look at our home record, look at the fact we've still got another half and we're almost doing our best to make it harder for them in the second half.

Only time I'll ever boo is players who obviously couldn't give a fvck. Very close to doing it numerous times last season.

[Dan]

Don't post much but thought I should throw my two penneth in...

All of what he said was true. I can vouch for that.

Absolutly spot on. We were always labelled as a "bunch of kids" and riled from the off. We had a lot of songs similar to WLY & Ben marshall chant which if people gave them half a chance would have been great.

RE: What 1964 put about the meetings with the clubs - There was a charter drawn up, but it meant giving up several things that we had set out to do in the first place. I remember one of the rules of the charter was we had to sit down during points of the game? (Yet it's ok for L1 to stand all the time?) Some "Ultra" group we'd have been! The idea of having a membership card for a group that didnt really exist beyond a few lads (at the time) was ridiculous, we'd never have got half the people onboard that we did if you had to pay extra to come and be with us! And before we had a chance to develop the club stabbed us in the back by going against the "charter" & other things such as targetting our leaders. Once you've been ejected (and booed by your own fans) simply for trying to improve the atmosphere, improve peoples matchday experience, do you think these guys want to come back in a rush?

All we asked for was to be given our own section of the ground and be allowed flags, flagpoles, banners and a very small drum.

I saw someone post about how the new owners have taken strides to improve the atmosphere? But I'm still skeptical on this...they are only bothered about money (new tv screens = more advert monies)...i don't think they are that fussed if there is an atmosphere at the KP.

And to all the lads in N1 trying to start something. The idea is fantastic, and when we tried to create the singing section there, it actually worked! For a few games there was hundreds stood in the family stand and it was even published on lcfc.com as the singing section) but the club soon came up with Bulls**t and again, targetted the leaders ejected them and soon it died a death. Once there is a big enough group to cause the club a problem they will move in and put you to bed. It's sat but true.

I would love to see a proper unified singing area back at Filbert way, but do i believe that can happen while certain individuals are at the club? No.

Should have saved this for my 10'000th post....damn!!

I thought certain things the FB did were wrong. The group in hindsight was a mistake in itself - having a flag which said the groups name made it almost... cliquey? Is that the word? Basically if I hadn't heard anything about it and saw that, I'm not sure I'd have been in a hurry to join. In-fact having a name on the whole was a mistake, I think it arguably alienates people before you've even properly started.

I also think the rate of new songs was a mistake. Far too many at once and too many European ones which frankly no-one had heard. They'd have caught on in time IMO but not if you chuck loads of them at once.

Two key errors there for me but... I can't really criticise, I didn't consider either point when the group was forming.

I learnt a lot from the Fosse Boys actually - learnt a lot about the club's mentality and our fans' too, and it's safe to say the results were everything I wouldn't have hoped for.

The FB made mistakes but, no-one's come up with anything better since. What a surprise.

[Saxondale]

It's all gone 'King Sour