Is this whole thing escalating to new heights？

[The Year Of The Fox]

Since 82？

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20907312

[MooseBreath]

I don't know but I'm not sure the sun should be provoking what could turn into a conflict resulting in deaths. Seems an extremely cynical way to try and drum up a potential story for the year.

[foxile5]

The whole ****ing island never belonged to Argentina. At any point. It was under Spanish occupation prior to the British. It was under British occupation before Argentina was even a thing.

Not that it ****ing matters, it's just a godforsaken rock....but still, what right do the Argentines have to claim something that's never been theirs? Greedy, workshy bastards.

[The Year Of The Fox]

Rock or not, it has British people living on it. Its those we defend as well as the land.

If we ever let it go it'd be a huge insult to the people who died winning the Islands back

[Babylon]

Not that it ****ing matters, it's just a godforsaken rock....

Renewed interest since the stuff started about potential oil in the area perhaps. People do a lot for oil.

[z-layrex]

It has Britts living there so I think we should defend it by any means we have left these days.

[flowwolf]

It has Britts living there so I think we should defend it by any means we have left these days.

You know when you say " we " you don't mean yourself do you?

[Captain...]

The Sun shouldn't be speaking on behalf of our country and stirring up feelings, despite what they think they are not the fvcking voice of this nation and should stay the fvck out of it, stick to tits and lies, what they are best at.

If I was Cameron I would take everyone that works for that tawdry rag, roll them up into a ball and smash them into the real sun.

Of all the irresponsible fvcking crap that the Sun has done over the years this one could actually result in stoking up a war. Hopefully most Argentines are capable of seeing it for what it is.

Even if I agree with the majority of what they said they have no right to be saying that on our behalf. Cvnts

[z-layrex]

You know when you say " we " you don't mean yourself do you?

Oh piss off.

[Fox92]

You know when you say " we " you don't mean yourself do you?

Bit harsh!?... It's 'we' as in a Country. I always say and when 'we' as in the Country. whether I'm referring to music, sports or the War.

[ADK]

You know when you say " we " you don't mean yourself do you?

[ithuriel]

I have a book lying around somewhere about the history of the Falklands and Argentinas attitude to anything they see as theirs.

They constantly badgered Chile to give up land which they had no right to until eventually the Chileans just had enough and caved in.

They probably think they can do the same with the islands.

After that they will no doubt claim South Georgia as theirs by extension too which they also invaded back in 1982.

[Captain...]

Bit harsh!?... It's 'we' as in a Country. I always say and when 'we' as in the Country. whether I'm referring to music, sports or the War.

I think the point Flowy is making is that it is all very well and good saying we will go over there and fight people and kill people and risk people's lives to protect a useless piece of rock when it is not your life that will be at risk.

As much as I do think we have every right to the Falklands, I think it would be a huge tragedy if people go over there risking their lives and die for no reason, especially if feelings are being deliberately stoked up by cvnts at the S*n.

[ADK]

What we should do is what we should have done back in the 80's and make it impossible for the Argentines to invade. Problem solved.

[Captain...]

What we should do is what we should have done back in the 80's and make it impossible for the Argentines to invade. Problem solved.

How can we do that?

Short of invading Argentina, destroying their armed forces, crippling their economy, enslaving their footballers and turning it into part of the British Empire.

[pSinatra]

I think the point Flowy is making is that it is all very well and good saying we will go over there and fight people and kill people and risk people's lives to protect a useless piece of rock when it is not your life that will be at risk.

As much as I do think we have every right to the Falklands, I think it would be a huge tragedy if people go over there risking their lives and die for no reason, especially if feelings are being deliberately stoked up by cvnts at the S*n.

I couldn't possibly agree with what The Sun has done & it can only be considered as deliberately antagonistic.

The point Flowy makes is a fair one, but that can also be said of the governments of both nations. They will be making the decisions, but it will not be them losing their lives.

[ADK]

How can we do that?

Short of invading Argentina, destroying their armed forces, crippling their economy, enslaving their footballers and turning it into part of the British Empire.

What i mean is providing the islands with a decent level of defence. Obviously should Argentina become an economic powerhouse in 30 years time it would be a problem again, but right now it dosn't have that much of a military.

[ithuriel]

Neither do we to be fair, at present we have 13 frigates and upto 6 destroyers.

The destroyers are still entering service and only a couple are currently fully battle ready and the frigates are stretched due to worldwide commitments so you could probably get 6 or 7 together down south within a couple of weeks.

There are no aircraft carriers available though we do have roughly 6 SSNs in the fleet.

What the status is of the airbase down in the Falklands is i do not know but i bet cutbacks have been made there too.

I doubt Argentina would kick off though unless they had the military backing of another couple of countries down there, oil can be a big persuader though.

[Trav Le Bleu]

[Tielemans63]

I wouldn't even wipe my arse with the Sun newspaper. Disgusting institution.

[Captain...]

I wouldn't even wipe my arse with the Sun newspaper. Disgusting institution.

...and not very absorbent!!!

[Zingari]

There’s more than one island isn’t there ?

Why doesn’t Cameron meet up with Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner and give her one ?

That’s what I’d do

[BlueSi13]

Nothing to fear ladies and gentlemen. I've been following this story for some time and their really isn't anything to be overly worried about.

The Argentinian economy is in tatters with things getting worse by the day, civil unrest is increasing, inflation is out of control, the debt is now unmanageable with the vultures within the international community circling and ready to feast on it's corpse.

With it's rising problems, Argentina has pursued a RELENTLESS policy of provocation and aggression towards the Falkland Islands, with the goal being to clearly upset the UK into doing something rash which would make it look like an aggressor. Though i do not like Cameron or the Conservatives they have played an absolute blinder to these taunts with almost every single act of intimidation by Argentina backfiring on them hilariously.

Argentina has absolutely no geographical or historical claim to the islands other than what they have convinced themselves through decades of fantasy and brainwashing. The islands have never belonged to them since civilisation has lived on them, they have been British before Argentina was even a country (Argentina itself a country created through the extermination of its population by Spanish colonists), the population of the Falklands are entirely self-governing with them only relying on the UK for foreign affairs and defence (they wouldn't even need that if the Argentine invasion never happened), the current population has no wishes to become Argentine citizens and will express that in a sovereignty referendum in March (Argentina knows the game is up when this happens), plus Argentina lacks any sort of economic or military clout that may concern Britain.

There is nothing stopping Argentina from taking this matter to the ICJ, but they won't, and for good reason.

[The Year Of The Fox]

How can we do that?

Short of invading Argentina, destroying their armed forces, crippling their economy, enslaving their footballers and turning it into part of the British Empire.

At least we'd be half decent at football

[bluesbrothers]

While I get that this is an easy way for folks to have a stab at the Sun for sabre-rattling, the fact remains that this wouldn't have happened if Kirchner - that vile, delusional plastic-faced cow she is - hadn't taken the pathetic actions she did. Her government is in freefall and this is the only way for them to deflect attention away from their own hammering in the Argentinian polls.

It was also absolutely shameful of the Guardian and Independent to run the letter in their paper. They are often touted as "beacons of intelligence" in the newspaper world, but showed their true colours here - left-wing shit-stirring wastes of paper. These are the same newspapers who actually gave that sulky shitbag Morrissey the time of day when he piped up about the Falklands belonging to the handballing Junta last year.

I remind anybody who goes on to defend them that the one argument raised by Kirchner in her letter - the 1965 UN Resolution that proposed negotiations - became legally

void when Argentina invaded the Falklands. Therefore, her argument is void and, by indirectly allowing it to reach print unopposed by the facts, the Guardian and Independent are just as bad as the vile Argentinian Government that wrote the letter in the first place. The papers should donate the money the Argentinian government gave them to charity - or perhaps to the Falkland Islands? - but that will never happen, as they're happy to pocket the cash and encourage this sort of thing. They're total bastards.

Yes, it was brash, but the Sun is right - to not respond to Kirchner's pathetic backstabbing is just wrong.