Pearson In/Out

[Tedders]

Really ? we shall see. weather you me or any fan likes it or not ,thats what will happen. pearson has lost one third of his games this season, that CV will not suffice for these owners bet on it..

yes! i would bet on it.. time will tell.

[Oadby Fox]

Chasing fuc ing rainbows since Christmas.... NFP has not a clue he has been so lucky in his job! True Leicester fans will know this!

[inckley fox]

Sometimes I could understand you posting that. But that guy just suggested that Pearson was wrong to fall out with Wayne Brown, do you honestly agree with him?

Edit: Don't answer that, I forgot I was talking to the guy who wanted us to sign Marlon King.

I think it's nitpicking. Brown was only an example and Pearson did, after all, sign the guy both on loan and permanently. He is supposed to be quite thorough in his vetting of signings' personal backgrounds.

There are quite a few other examples too: Mills, St. Ledger, Campbell, Mattock, Gradel, Howard, Beckford and Danns were all either rumoured, or known, to have had fall outs with Pearson. Of course in many cases I'd tend to back Pearson over the player, and there are plenty of other highly spurious rumours / speculations (e.g. falling out with Wood, Schlupp etc.) which we can't use against him.

[ruisliptiger]

Chasing fuc ing rainbows since Christmas.... NFP has not a clue he has been so lucky in his job! True Leicester fans will know this!

I'm sorry, I must have been hallucinating in January. I imagined Pearson winning manager of the month.

[Mark_w]

Chasing fuc ing rainbows since Christmas.... NFP has not a clue he has been so lucky in his job! True Leicester fans will know this!

Again? Seriously?

I mean, the fact that people want Pearson gone is evidence enough of their short memories, but this rubbish twice in one day from Foxes Talk posters is pretty impressive.

[Tedders]

Chasing fuc ing rainbows since Christmas.... NFP has not a clue he has been so lucky in his job! True Leicester fans will know this!

... ha as a true leicester fan can you let me know of a better season with another manager thats been better then in the last ten years? or got us into a better position in the league and as a club?

and if your also a true football fan can you let me know of a manager/team who dose not have a bad run every now and then ... cheers.

[marko]

Chasing fuc ing rainbows since Christmas.... NFP has not a clue he has been so lucky in his job! True Leicester fans will know this!

It's dangerous to think on an empty head.

[Oadby Fox]

He just happened to be the best that fecking month get a grip.... 1 month is f-ck all in this game!

[foxfanazer]

He just happened to be the best that fecking month get a grip.... 1 month is f-ck all in this game!

Think it was more to point out that you're wrong that we have been "chasing fuc ing rainbows since December"

If he wins manager of the month for Jan that can't really be true can it

[Mark_w]

Chasing fuc ing rainbows since Christmas.... NFP has not a clue he has been so lucky in his job! True Leicester fans will know this!

He just happened to be the best that fecking month get a grip.... 1 month is f-ck all in this game!

You've shot yourself in the foot to be honest, our poor run started on the 9th of February with a loss to Peterborough... have a look at the date today.

[Oadby Fox]

It's dangerous to think on an empty head.

I've been a loyal Leicester Fan for Years and all ways will be mate! Mr NFP has ran out of idea's

[Soar Fox]

As a side note, how do people post during the game?

How do you have the time to avert your eyes from the match and think of something to write in frustration? Do you actually support Leicester City?

If you weren't at the game I suppose I could let you off but if you decided it would be a good idea to post while at a football match then please don't bother turning up again.

What the fvck you going on about? What's it got do with you if they post or not whilst at the game?

Also didn't you post on a different thread the other day saying you look at other results on your phone when we are winning??

Hypocrite.

[Oadby Fox]

You've shot yourself in the foot to be honest, our poor run started on the 9th of February with a loss to Peterborough... have a look at the date today.

You know what I mean!

[Mark_w]

You know what I mean!

I'm not sure I do.

[Kitchandro]

He just happened to be the best that fecking month get a grip.... 1 month is f-ck all in this game!

He must have been ok in the other months for us to be second after '1 good month' surely?

To look at it in a different (more accurate) way, it's really just been one incredibly shit month which has fvcked us up.

[foxfanazer]

You know what I mean!

I'm not sure you do!

[iancognito]

He just happened to be the best that fecking month get a grip.... 1 month is f-ck all in this game!

So don't praise him for a good month but sack him for a bad one, then. Yes, it's this sort of long term thinking that's seen us established firmly as bridesmaids for the last ten b@stard years. We're not even a yo-yo club anymore.

And if in a month he's won 4 out of 6, the NP haters will crawl back into the woodwork.

[spittingfeathers]

Only 5 points out last 21

Thats all !

[ruisliptiger]

Hang on. Are we all in agreement that January come after December? I feel this needs clarification. I'm starting to doubt myself with so much well reasoned counter argument flying about.

[inckley fox]

I've already suggested what I think some of the problems are, some of which includes criticising the manager. I did so in the thread that you started and I quoted you so you would have recieved a notification. You can talk as much nonsense as you want about me never criticising the manager or criticising those that do, but you really should read my posts if you're going to do that. http://www.foxestalk...20#entry2523162

Anyway, I'm not the one who seems to think that he should have kept Wayne Brown around and I'm not the one who would be happy to see someone like Marlon King at my football club, so frankly I don't give a shit about what you think of me, because trust me I think a lot less of you.

I've not heard anyone say we should have kept Brown! I think you might be putting words in their mouths. And as I said before, Pearson was the one who signed him in the first place.

Now you've been critical of Col for coming up with no suggestions, and of me for my thoughts on why NP isn't the same manager he was in the past, so I read back over your suggestions which pinpointed the problems as-

a) Loaning Kane

b) Loaning out Futacs (and thus upsetting Knockaert)

c) The fans, who somehow are the cause for us playing long ball

The poor run began before we loaned Kane, Knockaert's poor form before we loaned out Futacs, and we have one of the most vocal away supports in the division, but also one of the poorest away records.

Now, you finally accepted that circumstances, and expectations, are different this time to when we made 5th under Pearson in 2010.

But some of your defences of him are simply surreal, such as suggesting that the squad's progress under Pearson was in spite of - rather than partly because of - the expensive team assembled by his predecessors, even though we still have five of those players in our squad, three of which played today, another of which has been a first team fixture, and one of which has been a squad regular.

Of the rest of the squad, two are loans, four are youth team graduates and four come from Pearson's first reign (in other words, they have nothing to do with Pearson's squad-building since his return and - loans apart - were technically inherited). So 13 of our 22 man squad were inherited and 5 came from Sousa and Sven.

Now I'm not for sacking NP, and I didn't like Sousa or Sven, but we can't credibly claim that the squad Pearson inherited was useless, but that the squad he's assembled is decent, when well over half of the players - and some of the finest (Schmeichel, Nugent etc.) are those he inherited.

And your suggestions as to why we're struggling, while they may be valid, do not constitute a solution to our problems.

[Heart-Shaped Fox]

But this is so much worse than the 2010 blip.

For starters, the rot has been there for 8 games now (including the cup replay defeat). Secondly, if my memory serves me correctly, that four game losing streak in 2010 featured defeats to a Reading side who were absolutely flying and a West Brom side who went up automatically. This current run of form has seen us repeatedly lose/draw with teams who look incapable of finishing in the top half, let alone in the top 6.

The final point about "not even threatening" is really worryingly true. Today I don't think we had a single good chance. At least back in the Waghorn/Vardy days we were creating chances for us to miss.

No you're right. This is worse. Also that four in a row defeats came when we actually played decently just lacked a little luck.

Currently we're barely even making chances. That Posh away defeat has caused all sorts of problems within the squad. No confidence at all and although i am behind NP i can't see when the next win is coming.

[Mark_w]

Only 5 points out last 21

Thats all !

58 points from the last 36 games is a much fairer way of looking at it. And when you're discussing the future of the manager, it's also a much more sensible way of looking at things.

[Guest Col city fan]

I've not heard anyone say we should have kept Brown! I think you might be putting words in their mouths. And as I said before, Pearson was the one who signed him in the first place.

Now you've been critical of Col for coming up with no suggestions, and of me for my thoughts on why NP isn't the same manager he was in the past, so I read back over your suggestions which pinpointed the problems as-

a) Loaning Kane

b) Loaning out Futacs (and thus upsetting Knockaert)

c) The fans, who somehow are the cause for us playing long ball

The poor run began before we loaned Kane, Knockaert's poor form before we loaned out Futacs, and we have one of the most vocal away supports in the division, but also one of the poorest away records.

Now, you finally accepted that circumstances, and expectations, are different this time to when we made 5th under Pearson in 2010.

But some of your defences of him are simply surreal, such as suggesting that the squad's progress under Pearson was in spite of - rather than partly because of - the expensive team assembled by his predecessors, even though we still have five of those players in our squad, three of which played today, another of which has been a first team fixture, and one of which has been a squad regular.

Of the rest of the squad, two are loans, four are youth team graduates and four come from Pearson's first reign (in other words, they have nothing to do with Pearson's squad-building since his return and - loans apart - were technically inherited). So 13 of our 22 man squad were inherited and 5 came from Sousa and Sven.

Now I'm not for sacking NP, and I didn't like Sousa or Sven, but we can't credibly claim that the squad Pearson inherited was useless, but that the squad he's assembled is decent, when well over half of the players - and some of the finest (Schmeichel, Nugent etc.) are those he inherited.

And your suggestions as to why we're struggling, while they may be valid, do not constitute a solution to our problems.

He ain't worth the effort mate, you'll get nowhere.

[Mark_w]

I've not heard anyone say we should have kept Brown! I think you might be putting words in their mouths. And as I said before, Pearson was the one who signed him in the first place.

Now you've been critical of Col for coming up with no suggestions

Actually I've been critical of him for coming up with suggestions for problems that don't exist, or for coming up with ridiculous suggestions. That and him just generally being a bit of a twat.

But some of your defences of him are simply surreal, such as suggesting that the squad's progress under Pearson was in spite of - rather than partly because of - the expensive team assembled by his predecessors, even though we still have five of those players in our squad, three of which played today, another of which has been a first team fixture, and one of which has been a squad regular.

Of the rest of the squad, two are loans, four are youth team graduates and four come from Pearson's first reign (in other words, they have nothing to do with Pearson's squad-building since his return and - loans apart - were technically inherited). So 13 of our 22 man squad were inherited and 5 came from Sousa and Sven.

Now I'm not for sacking NP, and I didn't like Sousa or Sven, but we can't credibly claim that the squad Pearson inherited was useless, but that the squad he's assembled is decent, when well over half of the players - and some of the finest (Schmeichel, Nugent etc.) are those he inherited.

I didn't say every player he signed was useless did I? But it was an average side (finishing mid-table) and whilst largely cutting back financially he's improved the side to being one that's competing for a play-off position. It doesn't take a genius to see that there's a massive difference between the two squads. We have not done as well as we have done this season because we've spent a lot of money, otherwise we'd have run away with the league last year, it's down to Pearson.

so I read back over your suggestions which pinpointed the problems as-

a) Loaning Kane

b) Loaning out Futacs (and thus upsetting Knockaert)

c) The fans, who somehow are the cause for us playing long ball

I'm not at all saying that they're definite problems. But Col wanted us to wildly speculate about what the issues could be in the hopes of creating a debate, so that's what I did. The fans negativity however certainly has hindered us. You'll also put that I think it's impossible for any of us to know exactly why these problems have arose.

[inckley fox]

58 points from the last 36 games is a much fairer way of looking at it. And when you're discussing the future of the manager, it's also a much more sensible way of looking at things.

We could be even more fair and add the 47 points he gained from 33 games last season.

And, while we're at it, those 58 points from 36 games would give you 74 points at the end of the season IF we get over our current form. Last season that wouldn't have been good enough for a play-off finish.

So, by that measure, he probably should be fired.