west country fox Posted 9 March 2013 Posted 9 March 2013 I believe Pearson may have lost the dressing room already,if this is the case it's enevitable he will soon be sacked.Our Thai owners have made it perfectly clear what they want and I'm convinced they will be ruthless.
l444ry Posted 9 March 2013 Posted 9 March 2013 I believe Pearson may have lost the dressing room already,if this is the case it's enevitable he will soon be sacked.Our Thai owners have made it perfectly clear what they want and I'm convinced they will ruthless. Third time lucky then.....
Mark_w Posted 9 March 2013 Posted 9 March 2013 SO we just contiue supporting a manager who is not performing, and when do we give up supporting him, get a grip if he is not the right manager for us then time is not going to change that is it? Blind faith Do we judge players on their peformance in the last 7 or 8 games or do we judge them based on the whole season? How is this any different? We should be judging the people at the football club on how well they've done over the course of the entire season and whether or not they are likely to be successfull here in the long term. Given our position in the table, the average age of our squad and the improved financial position, you'd really have to be insane to want him gone because you don't think he's performing. Maybe if you're judging him as a person it's more reasonable to want him gone now (Although I'd question whether you should be assessing him as a person based on interviews with, well, Ian Stringer), but if you decide how good a manager is based on a short run of games then you're, at the very best, short sighted.
Tedders Posted 9 March 2013 Posted 9 March 2013 going to repeat what i said on another thread... we have not had a better manager since oneill (and he didnt take us up automatically either... remember?!) a win on tuesday will shut alot of moaners up im sure. people need to also look what NP has done behind the scenes for us. i can still see this being a season to remember! keep the faith and show support! i can see why football has changed so much.. alot of fans have forgotten what it means to support there TEAM.
Guy Posted 9 March 2013 Posted 9 March 2013 It's still too early to start being serious about judging Pearson and his supposed "failings" right now - and very "knee jerk" if you choose to do so in my opinion. To want to get rid of him now would simply sum up everything that's wrong with 21st century football and who else would be able to do a better job as things stand other than him? - Henning Berg, Steve Kean, Stolbakken?? I don't think the writing is on the wall just yet, inspite of the poor run we've been on of late, the Blackburn win apart (albeit against a very poor side) - no doubt caused by the infamous manager of the month curse!! The time to judge Pearson should surely be in April time - as only by then will we know where we're probably heading - unless it goes down to the wire at Forest on the final day on MAy 4th - something which could be pretty likely now..... .
l444ry Posted 9 March 2013 Posted 9 March 2013 going to repeat what i said on another thread... we have not had a better manager since oneill (and he didnt take us up automatically either... remember?!) a win on tuesday will shut alot of moaners up im sure. people need to also look what NP has done behind the scenes for us. i can still see this being a season to remember! keep the faith and show support! i can see why football has changed so much.. alot of fans have forgotten what it means to support there TEAM. Stick up for NP as much as you like Tedders. But please don't compare him with Martin!! Martin took this club into the Premiership and onto successive top ten finishes. No comparison mate!
Tedders Posted 9 March 2013 Posted 9 March 2013 Stick up for NP as much as you like Tedders. But please don't compare him with Martin!! Martin took this club into the Premiership and onto successive top ten finishes. No comparison mate! the only difference for we know could be he was given the chance to tho!?
Mark_w Posted 9 March 2013 Posted 9 March 2013 Stick up for NP as much as you like Tedders. But please don't compare him with Martin!! Martin took this club into the Premiership and onto successive top ten finishes. No comparison mate! Martin O'Neill was not a victim of trigger happy owners, if Pearson gets the same good fortune who's to say where we'll end up?
ibbosuk Posted 9 March 2013 Posted 9 March 2013 I believe Pearson may have lost the dressing room already,if this is the case it's enevitable he will soon be sacked.Our Thai owners have made it perfectly clear what they want and I'm convinced they will ruthless. I think its obvious they will sack him, they have put far to much money into the club to be sentimental, as most of the people on here are, its business to them and he will go. Don't see how most people on here can't see it.
iamafox Posted 9 March 2013 Posted 9 March 2013 Can't believe we're talking about this when the season ISN'T even over yet. Okay we are on a bad run, but we are still in the top 6 and nobody is going to perform a quick fix and do a better job than Pearson for the last 10 games. We WILL at least win 1 of the 10 games left and we CAN go on another winning run. There is still time.
johnny the fox Posted 9 March 2013 Posted 9 March 2013 The biggest problem for me is the team has evolved into one without any big characters on the field, no loud voices and experienced leaders .. Wes leads by the way he plays, but any interview will tell you he is not a great talker in or out of the dressing room.. This problem has to be down to the manager, can he put up with big characters in the club other than him? who is his voice on the pitch? when the chips are down one or two experienced characters can pull you through these times , our young lads are so quiet and meek and badly need help, who is going to stand up and be counted? I don't see anyone, this is an indictment of Pearson's method..
inckley fox Posted 9 March 2013 Posted 9 March 2013 Martin O'Neill was not a victim of trigger happy owners, if Pearson gets the same good fortune who's to say where we'll end up? Pretty much seventeen years ago to the day, he very nearly was. By the way, he turned it round after a home defeat against a Sheffield-based team, with widespread calls for his head reaching their peak and a Chelsea youth reject brought into the club the same week. Spooky, isn't it?
iancognito Posted 9 March 2013 Posted 9 March 2013 Everyone keeps going on about the top six and being in it. Well I'm sorry, but 7 games ago we were one of the favourites for automatic!!! Now it seems acceptable to our fans we are in the play offs! 7 games ago if anyone had said we would be in danger of losing our play off spot they would have been abused off this forum and called a non believer! Well sorry, but it's just not good enough! This is part of the problem. We went on this decent run after Christmas, sneaked into the top 2 again and it convinced so many people that we were Premier class and going up with Cardiff. If we'd won one, drew one lost one for the last two months and been where we are, we'd have been "well-placed for the run-in" but we won 5 out of 6, now we've lost 4 out of 6 and it's doom and gloom. Don't get to up when we win, don't get too down when we lose, it's a crazy fvcking league sometimes but if we're in the play off mix, so be it. Yes, we've been in the top 2 but so were West Ham last season and they didn't sack Allardyce did they? Get a grip, it's only March. Stick up for NP as much as you like Tedders. But please don't compare him with Martin!! Martin took this club into the Premiership and onto successive top ten finishes. No comparison mate! He did, and by his own admission we hit a sreak, rode our luck and had we not nicked into the play-offs that season, history might remember the 'O'Neill Year' not 'Years'. As much as I loved his time here, he wasn't always perfect, didn't always get it right and his side had a few dips in form too. At this rate, Pearson will never get the chance to get us up and keep us there because there's a section of our fans who are determined to change the manager.
l444ry Posted 9 March 2013 Posted 9 March 2013 Martin O'Neill was not a victim of trigger happy owners, if Pearson gets the same good fortune who's to say where we'll end up? That argument would hold water except that Martin was under pressure after 12 games, which was just plain daft. NP has had a decent run. Martin had a track record of success. NP has one promotion to his name. Still no comparison, Mark. Better to compare NP to lesser mortals!
Tedders Posted 9 March 2013 Posted 9 March 2013 what is annoying me most is all of these moaners think our club has problems but the problem lies greatly with those few adding unnecessary and distracting pressure.
johnny the fox Posted 9 March 2013 Posted 9 March 2013 what is annoying me most is all of these moaners think our club has problems but the problem lies greatly with those few adding unnecessary and distracting pressure. its the fans fault.. just come out and say it !
Wakeyfox Posted 9 March 2013 Posted 9 March 2013 To those who say 'we'd have taken 5th at the beginning of the season'. That's true, but it ignores the context of our position. If the question had been 'would you take being 5th after 36 matches after looking good for automatic promotion' then I'd have been a bit reluctant. I'd want to know why I wasn't being offered one of the top two spots. If it had been 'would you take 5th with ten games left whilst in freefall and in danger of missing out on the play offs altogether' then my answer would have been 'absolutely not'. All of this "taking 5th place at the beginning of the season" is bollocks. Whether in August anyone would have taken 5th place at the end of the season or not has no bearing whatsoever on where we actually end up in the real world.
Jon the Hat Posted 9 March 2013 Posted 9 March 2013 You didn't watch the game so your views are a lot less credible than anyone else's. Sorry if that sounds rude but if you didn't watch the game you don't know enough about what happened. Looking at the result does not give you sufficient information for you to have an informed view on a game. Again, I apologise if I sound a bit unpleasant but I really don't have much time for people who want to flaunt their views on something they know little about. Did I comment on the game? No I commented on the manager and the results over recent weeks. I was mostly though objecting to the idea that you are not a fan if you dont go to a game. Which is nonsense.
Mark_w Posted 9 March 2013 Posted 9 March 2013 That argument would hold water except that Martin was under pressure after 12 games, which was just plain daft. NP has had a decent run. Martin had a track record of success. NP has one promotion to his name. Still no comparison, Mark. Better to compare NP to lesser mortals! Well this bad run hasn't even lasted that long. O'Neill had a longer poor run in that first season than Pearson has so far in recent weeks. I don't know how you define a track record of success, but MON didn't have any promotions at as a high a level as Pearson when he became manager of Leicester. Don't get me wrong, I agree with you, comparing Martin O'Neill to Nigel Pearson is ridiculous, but so is suggesting that Pearson could never reach a similar level of success.
Tedders Posted 9 March 2013 Posted 9 March 2013 its the fans fault.. just come out and say it ! im not saying that... it lies with all parties i agree np has got things working 100% at the moment what im trying do is get certain "fans" to look at the bigger picture look at leicester over the last ten years, have we been any better off or had a better man for the job? if the "fans" push the board into a silly decision it could be a step backwards again.
muzzy1981 Posted 9 March 2013 Posted 9 March 2013 Pearsons policy is clearly to invest in youth which requires time, I know its painfully difficult to be patient as a football fan, but he has too be given another season, there is no doubt we have talent and the exp of not getting to the prem could be what some of these youngsters need. With a few more additions I think we could be s true force. But hey still not over yet this season
buzzy Posted 9 March 2013 Posted 9 March 2013 what is annoying me most is all of these moaners think our club has problems but the problem lies greatly with those few adding unnecessary and distracting pressure. i moan when i want to and by the way your so blind to the fact that pearson his no better than sven at the end regardless where we are in the league. this is the worst run since paulos time and look what happened to him. but we still got this **** in charge
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