Brighton post match whatevers

[indierich06]

Arrr, bless...

So he buys 'em, trains 'em, motivates 'em, chooses his best 11 and gets paid a million quid and it's not his fault FFS?!

First rule of management is to accept that everything's your fault. Don't matter if you're selling pork pies or season tickets, as a manager, you ACCEPT the responsibility for your actions and those of your staff. If you're lucky enough to keep your job when you're SH*TE, the board are letting their customers down by keeping you on...

So, conversely, you think the 11 men on the field should take no responsibility for their performance, collectively or individually?

All these people saying that the buck stops with Pearson - they're right, he does bear the ultimate repsonsibility and he's never hidden from that fact; in every interview he gives he states that he takes full responsibility for results, but he also states that the players ahve to take responsibility too. It's not a case of one or the other taking responsibility, it's about BOTH parties taking responsibility for their performances, the players and the management.

If the players are turning up week in, week out thinking 'well it doesn't really matter how I play, it's the manager's fault if we lose - I'll still pick up my wages at the end of the month' then they want their contracts cancelling and chucking out of this club. They should want to win every single game and when they lose they should be looking at what they can do to rectify that in the next match. This culture of shifting responsibility from players to the manager is ridiculous - everyone at this football club has to take responsibility for our successes and our failures and that goes right from the boardroom to the dressing room.

[MC Prussian]

Arrr, bless...

So he buys 'em, trains 'em, motivates 'em, chooses his best 11 and gets paid a million quid and it's not his fault FFS?!

First rule of management is to accept that everything's your fault. Don't matter if you're selling pork pies or season tickets, as a manager, you ACCEPT the responsibility for your actions and those of your staff. If you're lucky enough to keep your job when you're SH*TE, the board are letting their customers down by keeping you on...

I think it's safe to say Pearson has addressed the issues several times over the course of the past few weeks and months and has also publicly taken a part of the responsibility for the recent lack of form (as heard on BBC Radio Leicester).

First rule of football management: It's everyone's fault and you only succeed by succeeding collectively.

[Ely fox]

Bringing two strikers on when you are 1-0 up away from home is not ****ing good enough.

They said on the football league show that those two substitutions were strange and upset the rhythm of the team, so another misjudgement from the manager me thinks.

[hackneyfox]

It was a ppor decision to bring on those 2 as subs.

It was an appalling decision to bring them on when we had just scored.

The minute they came on we just knew it was only a matter of time before they scored.

The team tried hard but there were so many occasions when Schlupp had the ball with nobody to pass to and the back 4 were still stuck to the penalty box.

[MC Prussian]

It was a ppor decision to bring on those 2 as subs.

It was an appalling decision to bring them on when we had just scored.

The minute they came on we just knew it was only a matter of time before they scored.

The team tried hard but there were so many occasions when Schlupp had the ball with nobody to pass to and the back 4 were still stuck to the penalty box.

Who is "we"? Are you everybody?

[melrose]

They've probably some of the friendliest fans I've ever met in the country, although don't tell Palace fans that!

Gays are well known for being friendly!

They average just under 26,000. Highest in the league.

I was wondering, how many of their fans are gay, would it be as much as 20%?

[MPH]

Arrr, bless...

So he buys 'em, trains 'em, motivates 'em, chooses his best 11 and gets paid a million quid and it's not his fault FFS?!

First rule of management is to accept that everything's your fault. Don't matter if you're selling pork pies or season tickets, as a manager, you ACCEPT the responsibility for your actions and those of your staff. If you're lucky enough to keep your job when you're SH*TE, the board are letting their customers down by keeping you on...

Are you actually saying that the players earning more that Nige...paid for by everyone's ticket money .. can turn up put as little effort in as they want to and don't need to worry as good old Nige will take the blame?

Is the concept of modern football lost on you?

If you manage a pork pie shop you can sack someone who doesn't perform... do that in football it costs you millions. You even simply replace a player you don't like because the previous manager gave someone a huge rise and no one will take them now.

[hackneyfox]

Who is "we"? Are you everybody?

'We' were the people I went to the match with and. it seemed, every other bugger around us, everyone looked at each other in bewilderment and there were a few shouts along the lines of 'ffs not again'.

Buth then you knew which 'we' I was talking about didn't you?

Were you happy with a point?

[indierich06]

Gays are well known for being friendly!

I was wondering, how many of their fans are gay, would it be as much as 20%?

Why are you so obsessed with their fans being gay? It's just a lazy stereotype. Not everyone who lives in Brighton is gay FFS. That'd be like saying everyone who lives in Leicester is Asian, therefore everyone who supports Leicester City must be Asian.

[Corky]

That must be why Poyet took a grand one point, when they were at home.

Posts like this annoy me. I'll get called a Pearson arselicker but posts like this just show an agenda and nothing more. Stupidity beyond belief.

Same.

Poyet might be a decent, up-and-coming manager but he's done no more than Pearson has, we're not missing out on some new Mourinho with him.

[Babylon]

'We' were the people I went to the match with and. it seemed, every other bugger around us, everyone looked at each other in bewilderment and there were a few shouts along the lines of 'ffs not again'.

Buth then you knew which 'we' I was talking about didn't you?

Were you happy with a point?

What makes you think we wouldn't have conceded with the other players still on the pitch? They had little to do with the goal we conceded and Brighton had chances before they even came on.

[Wycombe Fox]

I really enjoyed the game but not sitting in Row A. I spent the whole game shielding my eyes from the sun and it's really hard to get a sense of perspective from such a low position.

The only good aspect of Row A was actually hearing the players' celebrations when we scored.

I must admit I was puzzled my the two substitutions before Brighton restarted after our goal.

I thought it was widely acknowledged that you're at your most vulnerable immediately after scoring so I wouldn't have expected any subs until at least 5/10 mins had elapsed and even then only one sub to save the third for a bit of time-wasting towards the end.

I'm still on foxhateram's optimistic bus

[hackneyfox]

What makes you think we wouldn't have conceded with the other players still on the pitch? They had little to do with the goal we conceded and Brighton had chances before they even came on.

I didn't say that I wouldn't have used subs though did I.

Personally I'd have left Schlupp on and put Knocky on instead of Nugent and saved the other sub for later.

It's the fact that he had them warming up and then still threw them on despite us just having scored that I find so baffling.

[Babylon]

Personally I'd have left Schlupp on and put Knocky on instead of Nugent and saved the other sub for later.

Perhaps we'd have lost 2-1 doing that.

[melrose]

Why are you so obsessed with their fans being gay? It's just a lazy stereotype. Not everyone who lives in Brighton is gay FFS. That'd be like saying everyone who lives in Leicester is Asian, therefore everyone who supports Leicester City must be Asian.

I Didn't say all, I said 20%

But after a rethink I would lower that figure, without meaning to stereotype them, football would not really appeal to the gay community I'd have thought!

[hackneyfox]

Perhaps we'd have lost 2-1 doing that.

Okay, so it is now accepted gootball wisdom to replace 2 strikers with 2 strikers when you have just taken the lead and you're trying to close the game down.

I Didn't say all, I said 20%

But after a rethink I would lower that figure, without meaning to stereotype them, football would not really appeal to the gay community I'd have thought!

I'd stop digging if I was you.

[Babylon]

Okay, so it is now accepted gootball wisdom to replace 2 strikers with 2 strikers when you have just taken the lead and you're trying to close the game down.

But how many times has he "tried to close a game down" and been slaughtered on here for trying to sit on a one goal lead?

People are blaming the subs for causing us to concede, but I fail to see how that's the case when the problem stemmed from a shit ball, shit control and shit closing down that had nothing to do with those players really. You can't say for sure one way or the other what would have happened had x players stayed on or x player not come on.

Brighton had come very close to scoring several times without these players even on the pitch, and the performance of either team in my eyes didn't change that greatly with them coming on the pitch, we were still getting forward and so were they. I know people want to slaughter the manager at every opportunity and blame every little thing on him, god knows he's given people enough ammo with the run we are on. But whether they were right or wrong subs, they really had little to do with us not winning from where I was sitting.

[LCFCshotstopper]

Pearson seems to be damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

I can understand to a certain degree with the way the results are going etc but after the Brighton game, we played the best we have done in ages and got a decent point out of it. Yeah we would of prefered all 3 and maybe should of had all 3 but if we play like that against brum then the 3 points will be there for the taking!

[_Fatboyslow_]

All I know is I am glad I have locked away all the sharp things before the game. When they scored I was gutted.

As for the subs. De lat for Marshall that was inspired, Wood looked so unfit and rusty and Kane ? Pass ( if he could it would help either a player or the ball )

[hackneyfox]

But how many times has he "tried to close a game down" and been slaughtered on here for trying to sit on a one goal lead?

People are blaming the subs for causing us to concede, but I fail to see how that's the case when the problem stemmed from a shit ball, shit control and shit closing down that had nothing to do with those players really. You can't say for sure one way or the other what would have happened had x players stayed on or x player not come on.

Brighton had come very close to scoring several times without these players even on the pitch, and the performance of either team in my eyes didn't change that greatly with them coming on the pitch, we were still getting forward and so were they. I know people want to slaughter the manager at every opportunity and blame every little thing on him, god knows he's given people enough ammo with the run we are on. But whether they were right or wrong subs, they really had little to do with us not winning from where I was sitting.

I can agree with a lot of that and would certainly have gone with it earlier in the season, I just think we're a team now lacking in confidence, Just think we'd have been better off had we added an extra man in midfield. Kane is the last player I would have put on.

[Babylon]

I can agree with a lot of that and would certainly have gone with it earlier in the season, I just think we're a team now lacking in confidence, Just think we'd have been better off had we added an extra man in midfield. Kane is the last player I would have put on.

Not got a problem with anyone saying they would have done x instead of y. I personally would not have brought on Kane at that moment or in that position... having said that I can't sit here and say Pearson is a prat and it cost us the game as I just didn't see anything to back that up in regards the two attacking subs.

I know seenitall has been saying De Laet should have gone right back and taken Moore off, not that is fine with hindsight. But there have been lots of people calling for De Laet to play the kind of position he did when he came on for some time as he has the pace to trouble players going forward and they have moaned about his defensive capabilities. Had Pearson put him right back and they had scored he would have been slaughtered because they didn't score when Moore was in the position.

[melrose]

I'd stop digging if I was you.

Praps you're right, the PC brigade are just waiting to throw the homophobic card in given any tiny excuse!... It makes them feel all warm inside because they've stood up for a persecuted minority!

[hackneyfox]

It wasn't the PC brigade, it was wondering why you feel the need to keep talking about it.

[melrose]

It wasn't the PC brigade, it was wondering why you feel the need to keep talking about it.

It was just a normal question, can't really see what the problem is with it, I'm just interested to know if their fan base has a large gay inclusion.

[seenitall]

Not got a problem with anyone saying they would have done x instead of y. I personally would not have brought on Kane at that moment or in that position... having said that I can't sit here and say Pearson is a prat and it cost us the game as I just didn't see anything to back that up in regards the two attacking subs.

I know seenitall has been saying De Laet should have gone right back and taken Moore off, not that is fine with hindsight. But there have been lots of people calling for De Laet to play the kind of position he did when he came on for some time as he has the pace to trouble players going forward and they have moaned about his defensive capabilities. Had Pearson put him right back and they had scored he would have been slaughtered because they didn't score when Moore was in the position.

I think you are right about hindsight although I would suggest that is what we pay our manager to have, or at least the ability to think on his feet, which he appears not to have done - still it was an improvement and a win on Friday will have us all back on the edge of our seats I guess.....