Boston Marathon hit by explosions

[FoxesAreBlue]

Whatever the reason for the atrocities on Monday there was a quote I saw on the coverage of today's London Marathon that struck a chord with me in particular: I'm paraphrasing but it was something like this:

"If you're trying to defeat the human spirit, marathoners are the wrong group to target"

It couldn't be more apt. Whether it was the Tsarnaev brothers or not is irrelevant. The idea of terrorism is to install fear and pain, well the bad news for these cvnts is that people who run marathons confront fear and pain in every single training session and every single race. This is a group of people who willingly get up for days and weeks on end, leave their homes in the dark, rain, and snow purely so that they can push their minds and bodies to the limit. Only to come back a few days later and do it all again, but further, faster and stronger.

A group of people who suffer chaffed nipples, blistered feet, lost toenails just so they can take part in an event, that if it goes wrong doesn't happen again for another 12 months, unlike most sports whereby if you have a bad day you can make up for it next week. Not only that, but the VAST majority of people who take part in these events have absolutely ZERO chance of winning, they are competing against only themselves and their own human spirit. For christ's sake, this is a group of people who willingly jump into an ice bath in December because it makes them feel better.

Whatever the perpetrators of the Boston bombing wanted to achieve I very much doubt that it was what happened today in London. A dignified pause to reflect on our losses, followed by a celebration of the triumph of desire over reason that was broadcast around the globe. Next month I and many others take part in our first Marathon this year in Edinburgh, but before that I've got 4 more high speed interval sessions, a 19 miler, a 20 miler, a few 10ks and weights sessions to do.

Terrorise that you fvcking arseholes.

[Jordan]

blue-army-andy, it's a shame I cannot give more than one rep point for that post. That's one of the best things I've ever read on this site.

Good luck in Edinburgh.

[Haydos]

How long do you reckon you could lead SWAT/police/ATF/FBI and military on a manhunt for? After they've had you in their sights and shot you and have numerous choppers in the sky? If it was as easy as this lad made it seem (according to some), then why can't hardened criminals get away from two fat coppers with guns every day?

What's your theory then? Apart from a few things 'don't seem right'.

[BoneDog]

What's your theory then? Apart from a few things 'don't seem right'.

I know about as much as you do. My main assumption at the moment is that the two accused are not guilty. My theory involves those two lads being on some kind of drill along with others, and they were the two unlucky ones who the blame has been pinned on.

I find the MIT event suspicious, especially since I heard that the shooting was right outside the office of Chomsky who is one of the plaintiffs in the Hedges v Obama lawsuit regarding the NDAA.

This is an interesting phone call. It's Boston Red Sox's sports radio station and the caller is a lady who witnessed the shootout where the first suspect was dropped. She says that the police ran him over and then shot him.

http://audio.weei.co...n-watertown.htm

[MC Prussian]

Dear El Empty, if he and his brother had really been set up, acting as the scapegoat:

a) Why was he on the run?

b) Why was he hiding on a boat?

He could have easily handed himself in and none of this would've happened.

[FoxesAreBlue]

blue-army-andy, it's a shame I cannot give more than one rep point for that post. That's one of the best things I've ever read on this site.

Good luck in Edinburgh.

Thanks and thanks.

[Alexikokopops]

Whatever the reason for the atrocities on Monday there was a quote I saw on the coverage of today's London Marathon that struck a chord with me in particular: I'm paraphrasing but it was something like this:

"If you're trying to defeat the human spirit, marathoners are the wrong group to target"

It couldn't be more apt. Whether it was the Tsarnaev brothers or not is irrelevant. The idea of terrorism is to install fear and pain, well the bad news for these cvnts is that people who run marathons confront fear and pain in every single training session and every single race. This is a group of people who willingly get up for days and weeks on end, leave their homes in the dark, rain, and snow purely so that they can push their minds and bodies to the limit. Only to come back a few days later and do it all again, but further, faster and stronger.

A group of people who suffer chaffed nipples, blistered feet, lost toenails just so they can take part in an event, that if it goes wrong doesn't happen again for another 12 months, unlike most sports whereby if you have a bad day you can make up for it next week. Not only that, but the VAST majority of people who take part in these events have absolutely ZERO chance of winning, they are competing against only themselves and their own human spirit. For christ's sake, this is a group of people who willingly jump into an ice bath in December because it makes them feel better.

Whatever the perpetrators of the Boston bombing wanted to achieve I very much doubt that it was what happened today in London. A dignified pause to reflect on our losses, followed by a celebration of the triumph of desire over reason that was broadcast around the globe. Next month I and many others take part in our first Marathon this year in Edinburgh, but before that I've got 4 more high speed interval sessions, a 19 miler, a 20 miler, a few 10ks and weights sessions to do.

Terrorise that you fvcking arseholes.

+1000000

Best sign I saw while running yesterday:

Run if you can

Walk if you must

But finish for Boston

A couple of my friends were coincidentally by the guys with that sign and said they were from Boston and were probably the most enthusiastic supporters he saw all day

[FoxesAreBlue]

+1000000

Best sign I saw while running yesterday:

Run if you can

Walk if you must

But finish for Boston

A couple of my friends were coincidentally by the guys with that sign and said they were from Boston and were probably the most enthusiastic supporters he saw all day

They showd them on TV at one point so you might wanna see if your mates are in there.

[Haydos]

I know about as much as you do. My main assumption at the moment is that the two accused are not guilty. My theory involves those two lads being on some kind of drill along with others, and they were the two unlucky ones who the blame has been pinned on.

I find the MIT event suspicious, especially since I heard that the shooting was right outside the office of Chomsky who is one of the plaintiffs in the Hedges v Obama lawsuit regarding the NDAA.

This is an interesting phone call. It's Boston Red Sox's sports radio station and the caller is a lady who witnessed the shootout where the first suspect was dropped. She says that the police ran him over and then shot him.

http://audio.weei.co...n-watertown.htm

I just don't see why any interesting coincidences bare any relevance. Why would they try and link things up? To leave clues for conspiracy theorists?

[cambridgefox]

+1000000

Best sign I saw while running yesterday:

Run if you can

Walk if you must

But finish for Boston

A couple of my friends were coincidentally by the guys with that sign and said they were from Boston and were probably the most enthusiastic supporters he saw all day

walked past that,I believe near Blackfriars.Peoples support was amazing ,lady next to us at Mudchute spent hours calling peoples names saying well done,whilst dishing out the jelly babies,she offered me and the family some,I said I would feel ashamed eating one and passed.Truely amazing day.

[MooseBreath]

Some dirty liberal woman has just been on Jeremy Vine complaining that the American police went over the top in their efforts to catch the terrorists, and that scenes of celebration among Boston residents when it ended were "disgusting - an insult to those poor innocent people who lost their lives."

Jesus h Christ. Catching a mass murderer - is there nothing that sick liberals can't be offended about?

[BoneDog]

Dear El Empty, if he and his brother had really been set up, acting as the scapegoat:

a) Why was he on the run?

b) Why was he hiding on a boat?

He could have easily handed himself in and none of this would've happened.

EDIT : 35-00 - 36-00 of video to show how patsy's are used. This guy (7/7) was well in with police and even Parliament.

I'm not sure he was on the run. He was seen at his school in normal routine after the blasts. I would think that at some point, a small group of US traitors grabbed him and dumped him at the boat when ordered.

If he was on the run though, then I would think that it's because he knew he'd been set up and wanted dead. He had apparently seen them kill his brother. His fear would seem to be justified as when he climbed out of the boat he was not bloody and didn't seem injured. Yet, 10 minutes later he's critical and covered in blood.

This video is for the folks who know nothing about drills involving public. I'm not going to debate 7/7, just using this as one example. Go to 35.00 for an explanation of what possibly happened with the two patsy's in Boston. Watching the whole video would help explain better. Tbh some people need to watch the whole video as they seem to still think that Muslims were responsible for 7/7. The fact of the matter is that London was attacked by others and those Muslim lads were innocent and were actually working for MI5.

This is Ripple Effect 2 - not the original.

Praise for the video

James H. Fetzer, professor emeritus at the University of Minnesota:

"I must say, in my opinion this is a masterpiece. The film explains how this whole event was planned, how it was

staged, what went wrong, how the authorities sought to cover it up and the failure of the press to cover it adequately. I think it is as

marvellous a microcosm for understanding the nature of inside-jobs as anyone has ever produced, so I must congratulate you and tell you how much I admire your work."

Sheffield Hallam University - Rory Ridley-Duff Ph.D., senior lecturer in human resource management and organisation behaviour.

"After deploying three different theories of truth to develop insights into new and existing evidence, it is the BBC / Government theory that has a lower level of correspondence with known .facts., is incoherent to the point of being implausible, and is more likely to distort its reports because of institutional controls and political pressures."

Anybody who thinks that those patsy's caused 7/7 has obviously done no looking at the facts whatsoever and have only watched hatchet jobs.

[leicsmac]

Some dirty liberal woman has just been on Jeremy Vine complaining that the American police went over the top in their efforts to catch the terrorists, and that scenes of celebration among Boston residents when it ended were "disgusting - an insult to those poor innocent people who lost their lives."

Jesus h Christ. Catching a mass murderer - is there nothing that sick liberals can't be offended about?

The police certainly didn't go OTT to find the bombers, a city-wide manhunt was absolutely necessary before the guy either escaped or blew his own head off.

But the scenes of celebration and "USA! USA! USA!" chanting were deeply crass and pretty unnecessary. Yeah, you caught the bastard, it's good news and hopefully he'll spend the rest of his life in a very dark place with a 20-stone butch fella giving him a warm welcome - but going all LCFC have won the playoff final? Just looks shite to me.

Edit: And you're generalising again.

[BoneDog]

I just don't see why any interesting coincidences bare any relevance. Why would they try and link things up?

Do you know anything about any of the crimes the US or British intelligence have been involved in at any time in recent history? After all the evidence we have of corruption, murder, set-ups and failure I'm finding it hard to fathom why some people find it so hard to believe any wrongdoing is possible.

Do any of you people know anything about the real world or what?! Or do you spend all of your spare time watching Scrubs and Top of the Pops No offence.

Have you listened to the phone call? Totally different to the official story of that event isn't it. Easily staged too.

[Vacamion]

Tbh some people need to watch the whole video as they seem to still think that Muslims were responsible for 7/7. The fact of the matter is that London was attacked by others and those Muslim lads were innocent and were actually working for MI5.

Anybody who thinks that those patsy's caused 7/7 has obviously done no looking at the facts whatsoever and have only watched hatchet jobs.

Wow.

7/7, 9/11, Moon Landings, WWII and now the Boston bombings.

All conspiracies.

If you said this stuff in a pub, people would nod, whilst backing away from you with a worried look on their faces.

I'm doing that right now.

[BoneDog]

Well, it seems that most of the 'intellectuals' of the site have dismissed any possible inside/outside job and are putting all their faith in the official story! You're all talking as if it's Gospel. Did all of you obey the FBI and only looked at the two suspects photos?

A whole modern history of government/intelligence dirty work has been disregarded and put out of memory. Well done lads.

[BoneDog]

Waffle.

I see you haven't answered any of the points I've made. Very good. What a guy.

Being a Harris and Chris fan you'll be used to dismissing official wrongdoing and focusing on fabricated evidence against whole cultures, so I expect no kind of answer from you other than the claptrap you replied with.

[Haydos]

Do you know anything about any of the crimes the US or British intelligence have been involved in at any time in recent history? After all the evidence we have of corruption, murder, set-ups and failure I'm finding it hard to fathom why some people find it so hard to believe any wrongdoing is possible.

Do any of you people know anything about the real world or what?! Or do you spend all of your spare time watching Scrubs and Top of the Pops No offence.

Have you listened to the phone call? Totally different to the official story of that event isn't it. Easily staged too.

No, I just base my opinions on evidence. This seems to be where we differ. You're happy to speculate but I like to see proof.

I just don't see why this would be of benefit to any higher authority or why any of the 'sketchy' bits actually suggest a cover up. Like you say, we don't have all the details but you're keen to fill in gaps with suspicion. But for what reason? I still haven't heard an actual theory.

[leicsmac]

Well, it seems that most of the 'intellectuals' of the site have dismissed any possible inside/outside job and are putting all their faith in the official story! You're all talking as if it's Gospel. Did all of you obey the FBI and only looked at the two suspects photos?

A whole modern history of government/intelligence dirty work has been disregarded and put out of memory. Well done lads.

I like most of the stuff you say Empty, but as someone who has close ties with the space industry you keep losing me at suggesting the Moon landings were faked. Sorry, but I find that offensive having studied it very closely myself due to my line of study (obviously) and insulting to the memory of everyone who worked on it.

I'm certainly of the opinion that there's a lot that goes on that we don't know about, that some conspiracy theories do have a grain of truth within them, that Governments around the world do get up to some really shady stuff, and if half of what you say is true it's a criminal failure on the part of mainstream journalists for not making it more public. But more evidence of these deeds is needed to prove them and bring them into the light.

[anotherharboroughfox]

more Americans are killed by their own furniture than by terrorism. That is my contribution.

[BoneDog]

No, I just base my opinions on evidence. This seems to be where we differ. You're happy to speculate but I like to see proof.

I just don't see why this would be of benefit to any higher authority or why any of the 'sketchy' bits actually suggest a cover up. Like you say, we don't have all the details but you're keen to fill in gaps with suspicion. But for what reason? I still haven't heard an actual theory.

Evidence? Which evidence?

And if you honestly can't see why this would be of benefit to any higher power then I honestly pity you. Have you not heard anything in the past 20 years about how 'higher powers' have benefited from other massive lies that caused death and destruction. Iraq for example? I could give you 100 more but tbh seeing the calibre of brainpower in this thread I don't think it's worth it.

[Vacamion]

I see you haven't answered any of the points I've made. Very good. What a guy.

Being a Harris and Chris fan you'll be used to dismissing official wrongdoing and focusing on fabricated evidence against whole cultures, so I expect no kind of answer from you other than the claptrap you replied with.

Sheesh.

Bit viriolic today, aint ya?

Like the nutter on the bus or the wide eyed shouter in the pub, I am backing away from you.

I don't need to prove that the conspiracies you find in every single major event of the last 100 years are not conspiracies. Unlike you, I accept the mantra of the 1970s bumper sticker that shit sometimes happens. Sometimes unintended consequences arise. Sometimes, it IS what it lookes like and there isn't a bogeyman pulling the strings.

You, on the other hand, will only continue find and post yet more Youtube videos by preppers, lizard watchers, Ickeists and the rest.

I think you should take your conspiracy rubbish and put it in a seperate thread (the "open minded" thread or the "conspiracies" thread ), or post a poll or something, and leave the rest of us to reflect on the events, the victims and the kind of spirit which was reflected in Blue Army Andy's magnificent post earlier in the thread.

[BoneDog]

I like most of the stuff you say Empty, but as someone who has close ties with the space industry you keep losing me at suggesting the Moon landings were faked.

I wish people would stop bringing up the moon and other crap in every debate. No relevance whatsoever.

Anyway, I'm saying no more.

[Houdini Logic]

[BoneDog]

Like the nutter on the bus or the wide eyed shouter in the pub, I am backing away from you.

Back away and mock all you like, it doesn't make you a better man.

After reading some of the vile shit you've said in the past I know that I'm more normal than you. Your 'cancer' sense of humour is mental laddo. If I misunderstood your 'jokes' then don't bother explaining. I'm not interested.