Next City manager?

[5waller5]

This dour hoofball has seen us score 4 goals against several teams (like Sven), 5 once (like Sven) and 6 twice (unlike Sven). It has also seen us in a promotion race twice in 4 years whilst the nice football got us to 7th then backwards.

 

I was well excited by the full house against Real Madrid, different level to the full houses Micky Adams' shite used to pull in when we were finishing second and playing the top teams in league games. 

 

And Pearson "lovers" are accused of accepting mediocrity.

 

 

I agree with Smudger .... That was when we had a lovely period of playing some really nice stuff .... about 10 games??? the first 5 of which didn't get the luck they deserved and then it clicked and we had the unbeaten spell .....

 

We played lovely football .... would have won me around very easily if that had continued all season ..... and not because of the results because of the football ..... but we abandoned it and went hoofball unfortunately.

[Outfox the Fox]

I agree with Smudger .... That was when we had a lovely period of playing some really nice stuff .... about 10 games??? the first 5 of which didn't get the luck they deserved and then it clicked and we had the unbeaten spell .....

 

We played lovely football .... would have won me around very easily if that had continued all season ..... and not because of the results because of the football ..... but we abandoned it and went hoofball unfortunately.

 

We need a manager who wants to play a good passing game ALL the time - not just try to play it against teams he perceives to be strong in the air at the back (ie where his 'hoofball' approach won't work).  Look at the success Swansea have had in the Premiership this season?

[indierich06]

I agree with Smudger .... That was when we had a lovely period of playing some really nice stuff .... about 10 games??? the first 5 of which didn't get the luck they deserved and then it clicked and we had the unbeaten spell .....

 

We played lovely football .... would have won me around very easily if that had continued all season ..... and not because of the results because of the football ..... but we abandoned it and went hoofball unfortunately.

 

We stuck with it for most of the season, up until the end of January. If we can get back to playing that next season then we should be in with a good chance of promotion, especially if we make a few quality additions over the summer.

We wouldn't even have to spend that big - there are a lot of very good players going free this summer.

[MC Prussian]

Oh Really???

 

Someone should tell Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, that all that splashing the cash won't get them anywhere!!!!!!!

 

Try to think first, type second.

Well, I look at the market value of some of the Premier League's finest, and still arguing with your logic, Newcastle should automatically do better than, let's say, Everton.

Or Manchester City should do better than their city rivals.

 

Do you see what I'm getting at...?

Money can be an influence in the game, but it's not the deciding factor. There are many more variables that shape the future of a football club, including teamwork, team chemistry, stability, luck, determination, professionalism, scouting, youth academy setup, fanbase, etc. etc.

 

Again, your maths are too simplistic, ignoring the big picture.

 

Besides, it's a bit presumptuous to compare Leicester City with the best Premier League clubs, who in most cases had the doubtful honour of being there at the right time when the Premier League was founded.

We'll also not talk about the years of constant improvement most of these sides have gone through and the longer-lasting phases of stability.

We would not want to let facts get in the way of a proper argument, would we?

[Chris Makin's Ladyboys]

As a founding member of the Chris Makin Ladyboys (formed for the protection and conservation of Christopher Gregory Makin OBE), I can confirm that Chris Makin and Dion Dublin will be submitting a joint application for the soon to be vacant Leicester City job, at some point in the coming days.

 

Chris Makin, currently working in Dubai as a pundit, has a highly impressive CV which boasts accolades including the following:

 

• Guided Dag & Red to a mid-table Premiership finish within 5 years of taking over on Football Manager 2008.
• Dubai rear of the year, three years running (2010, 2011, 2012) and shortlisted for the 2013 prize. Runner up in 2009 to Sheikh Kalifa bin Zayed Al-Nahyan.
• Winner of the UAE's Got Talent 2011, producing a breathtaking analysis of Birmingham City's opening goal of the League Cup Final, scored by Nikola Zigic.
• Donates £5 to the RSPCA- monthly.
• All-round good guy.

Dion Dublin also boasts many an accolade on his CV:

 

• 18 inch dong.

Chris Makin is well-respected by his peers in the game, as a player, pundit, physio, and now potential manager:

 

"What a great man. Never before and not since have I played alongside a man with the natural grace of a swan and the demeanour of an angry bull, deserves his chance at LCFC" Pablo Counago

 

"Good luck to him at Leicester, if he's as good a manager as he is a lover he'll go far" Nicky Summerbee

 

"Put simply... a beast" Danny Dichio

 

You heard it here first guys. Let's get behind Chris, Pappy Dion and the boys. LCFCTID!!!

[bald reynard]

As a founding member of the Chris Makin Ladyboys (formed for the protection and conservation of Christopher Gregory Makin OBE), I can confirm that Chris Makin and Dion Dublin will be submitting a joint application for the soon to be vacant Leicester City job, at some point in the coming days.

 

Chris Makin, currently working in Dubai as a pundit, has a highly impressive CV which boasts accolades including the following:

 

• Guided Dag & Red to a mid-table Premiership finish within 5 years of taking over on Football Manager 2008.
• Dubai rear of the year, three years running (2010, 2011, 2012) and shortlisted for the 2013 prize. Runner up in 2009 to Sheikh Kalifa bin Zayed Al-Nahyan.
• Winner of the UAE's Got Talent 2011, producing a breathtaking analysis of Birmingham City's opening goal of the League Cup Final, scored by Nikola Zigic.
• Donates £5 to the RSPCA- monthly.
• All-round good guy.

Dion Dublin also boasts many an accolade on his CV:

 

• 18 inch dong.

Chris Makin is well-respected by his peers in the game, as a player, pundit, physio, and now potential manager:

 

"What a great man. Never before and not since have I played alongside a man with the natural grace of a swan and the demeanour of an angry bull, deserves his chance at LCFC" Pablo Counago

 

"Good luck to him at Leicester, if he's as good a manager as he is a lover he'll go far" Nicky Summerbee

 

"Put simply... a beast" Danny Dichio

 

You heard it here first guys. Let's get behind Chris, Pappy Dion and the boys. LCFCTID!!!

 

Eh - what's all that about then ?!

 

I read the first bit about the, "soon to be vacant Leicester City job, at some point in the next few days" and I got quite excited ("someone in the know", I thought !) - then came shatteringly back down to earth, when I read all the other stuff !

[5waller5]

Well, I look at the market value of some of the Premier League's finest, and still arguing with your logic, Newcastle should automatically do better than, let's say, Everton.

Or Manchester City should do better than their city rivals.

 

Do you see what I'm getting at...?

Money can be an influence in the game, but it's not the deciding factor. There are many more variables that shape the future of a football club, including teamwork, team chemistry, stability, luck, determination, professionalism, scouting, youth academy setup, fanbase, etc. etc.

 

Again, your maths are too simplistic, ignoring the big picture.

 

Besides, it's a bit presumptuous to compare Leicester City with the best Premier League clubs, who in most cases had the doubtful honour of being there at the right time when the Premier League was founded.

We'll also not talk about the years of constant improvement most of these sides have gone through and the longer-lasting phases of stability.

We would not want to let facts get in the way of a proper argument, would we?

 

The only ting that has been constant at Man City and Chelsea is that they have spent money.

 

They have had loads of managers!!!!!!

 

You've made my point very nicely indeed for me ...... Spend money = success. Of course there are exceptions .... those exceptions are when you back the wrong man with money = NP.

 

I'm at a loss why you're trying to argue by making points that support my argument!!??

[Mark_w]

Can someone please delete this thread, it keeps making me think that Pearson's been sacked. He hasn't so it's a pointless discussion anyway.

[5waller5]

We stuck with it for most of the season, up until the end of January. If we can get back to playing that next season then we should be in with a good chance of promotion, especially if we make a few quality additions over the summer.

We wouldn't even have to spend that big - there are a lot of very good players going free this summer.

 

 

If I thought that NP would make a 4-5 quality additions, and not all young lads .... and I thought we'd stick to the footballing philosophy that we had in that lovely period of a dozen or so games around christmas ...... then i'd be the first to back him.

 

I just don't think he will. It just doesn't seem to be his natural default style.

[hackneyfox]

What 5waller5 said

[MC Prussian]

The only ting that has been constant at Man City and Chelsea is that they have spent money.

 

They have had loads of managers!!!!!!

 

You've made my point very nicely indeed for me ...... Spend money = success. Of course there are exceptions .... those exceptions are when you back the wrong man with money = NP.

 

I'm at a loss why you're trying to argue by making points that support my argument!!??

Yeah, and with all that ridiculous money spent (far beyond the amount our owners have splashed out so far), the bigger clubs in the Premier League sometimes get lucky by winning an odd trophy here and there (except when you're Manchester United).

They, like other clubs, are prone to the influences of elements such as luck, determination, team chemistry, management, professionalism, etc. etc.

 

Again, your assumption remains just that. You can have all the money you want, it won't buy you success, especially not immediately.

 

And money, like I mentioned before, is not the single or decisive factor that leads to success. It is one of many.

 

I don't think, with that simplistic approach of yours, that you're willing to indulge in my explanation and don't really comprehend the whole picture.

You highlight bits of my statement and then talk about something completely else - I think you're the one who's lost.

[5waller5]

Yeah, and with all that ridiculous money spent (far beyond the amount our owners have splashed out so far), the bigger clubs in the Premier League sometimes get lucky by winning an odd trophy here and there (except when you're Manchester United).

They, like other clubs, are prone to the influences of elements such as luck, determination, team chemistry, management, professionalism, etc. etc.

 

Again, your assumption remains just that. You can have all the money you want, it won't buy you success, especially not immediately.

 

And money, like I mentioned before, is not the single or decisive factor that leads to success. It is one of many.

 

I don't think, with that simplistic approach of yours, that you're willing to indulge in my explanation and don't really comprehend the whole picture.

You highlight bits of my statement and then talk about something completely else - I think you're the one who's lost.

 

 

There are many factors. Agreed.

 

The most important two are capable manager and investment.

 

Everything else will be irrelevant in anything other than a very short term.

[indierich06]

If I thought that NP would make a 4-5 quality additions, and not all young lads .... and I thought we'd stick to the footballing philosophy that we had in that lovely period of a dozen or so games around christmas ...... then i'd be the first to back him.

 

I just don't think he will. It just doesn't seem to be his natural default style.

 

What makes you think he won't make quality additions this summer when he's done throughout his whole time here? His hit to miss ratio in terms of signings is very good - he signs way more quality players than shit ones, in fact it's one of his and his team's greatest strengths

[Guest Col city fan]

What makes you think he won't make quality additions this summer when he's done throughout his whole time here? His hit to miss ratio in terms of signings is very good - he signs way more quality players than shit ones, in fact it's one of his and his team's greatest strengths

Though I agree Rich, he also makes some strange signings. Vardy, Futacs, Marshall (I just don't rate him), Whitbread and most particularly Kane on loan.

There's five just this season. Fair enough, some of them for no money, but still wages to pay.

Add to that some players who appear to have gotten worse (Wood, Drinkwater) and actually this season appears to be nowhere near as good, in terms of good quality signings who really contribute to the team, as his first season in the Championship.

[indierich06]

There are many factors. Agreed.

 

The most important two are capable manager and investment.

 

Everything else will be irrelevant in anything other than a very short term.

 

Well you were a fan of Sven - we spent millions under him and got absolutely nowhere. How do you explain away that one? Liverpool spent about £80 million on transfers when before Rodgers turned up, Dalglish was a Premier League winner - what was the last thing they won? QPR spent a fortune to try and buy their way out of relegation and employed someone who many think is one of the best English managers out there at the minute. How did they get on?

 

Your argument is just so full of holes. If success was as easy as getting in a good manager and spending money then every ****er would do it.

[shiv]

Beckham 

[5waller5]

Well you were a fan of Sven - we spent millions under him and got absolutely nowhere. How do you explain away that one? Liverpool spent about £80 million on transfers when before Rodgers turned up, Dalglish was a Premier League winner - what was the last thing they won? QPR spent a fortune to try and buy their way out of relegation and employed someone who many think is one of the best English managers out there at the minute. How did they get on?

Your argument is just so full of holes. If success was as easy as getting in a good manager and spending money then every ****er would do it.

Every theory has some exceptions and thanks for pointing them out .... but there's a huge correlation;

Good Manager + Resources = Success

Yes you can find some short term examples to disprove that but if you fundamentally disagree with that principal then you put forward a better theory.

[5waller5]

Well you were a fan of Sven - we spent millions under him and got absolutely nowhere. How do you explain away that one? Liverpool spent about £80 million on transfers when before Rodgers turned up, Dalglish was a Premier League winner - what was the last thing they won? QPR spent a fortune to try and buy their way out of relegation and employed someone who many think is one of the best English managers out there at the minute. How did they get on?

 

Your argument is just so full of holes. If success was as easy as getting in a good manager and spending money then every ****er would do it.

 

 

We went from being bottom of the league to be 2 points off the play offs.

 

Let's deal with facts not emotional NP loving please!!

[5waller5]

What makes you think he won't make quality additions this summer when he's done throughout his whole time here? His hit to miss ratio in terms of signings is very good - he signs way more quality players than shit ones, in fact it's one of his and his team's greatest strengths

 

I think he gets 50% of them right ... which i can live with - most managers don;t get much higher .....

 

Like Col says i'd like to see them improve though.

 

I'd also like him to pin his footballing colours to the mast and make a determined policy to play decent football and not revert to hoofball.

[cjslcfc]

I think he gets 50% of them right ... which i can live with - most managers don;t get much higher .....

 

Like Col says i'd like to see them improve though.

 

I'd also like him to pin his footballing colours to the mast and make a determined policy to play decent football and not revert to hoofball.

 

This. I'd like to revert back to the football we played earlier in the season.

 

I don't know whether the hoofball is a result of the pressure, the bad run or the signing of a big man up top (despite his strengths being with the ball on the floor), but we need to get back to what looked good and was indeed very successful for the first part of the season.

 

I'm not sure which philosophy the true Pearson is to be honest...

[Bob Weasel Fox]

This. I'd like to revert back to the football we played earlier in the season.

I don't know whether the hoofball is a result of the pressure, the bad run or the signing of a big man up top (despite his strengths being with the ball on the floor), but we need to get back to what looked good and was indeed very successful for the first part of the season.

I'm not sure which philosophy the true Pearson is to be honest...

After the season we have just had you would almost think Pearson was schizophrenic

[He's not bald]

Roy Keane...put your house on it and don't forget you heard it here first!

[cjslcfc]

After the season we have just had you would almost think Pearson was schizophrenic

 

Sounds right to me

[5waller5]

After the season we have just had you would almost think Pearson was schizophrenic

 

 

It's a good point made in jest ..... He may have seemed like that as a result of the extreme pressure he's under to get promotion. Stress is a powerful force.

[The Doctor]

has he? the last two seasons NP failed to get us in the play-offs, Chris Powell got Charlton promoted and to a respectable finish in the championship with no money.

 

So, why then has he been in the play-offs in every full season he's had at the club?