TEF's Question of the Day

[theessexfox]

I've just done my political compass, and I thought I'd pose one of the questions from it to you (hopefully it hasn't already been discussed on here)

 

"No one chooses his or her country of birth, so it's foolish to be proud of it."

 

Thoughts? 

[Webbo]

Being born British was an accident of birth so it would be silly to be proud of that however there is nothing wrong with being proud of Britain.

[Mark_w]

I wouldn't say it's foolish to be proud of your country. But it is foolish to be proud of your country if the fact that you were born there is the only reason for it.

[Rincewind]

I have no thoughts either way. There are people born here that have done great things, inventions etc and I am glad they were but there are many things make me wish I was born elsewhere like a deset island. It is the people that live here that matters for me.

In order of importance. Family friends, others, and country last. Gods are not in the running.

[Guest]

So supporting Leicester because you were born there is foolish?

[I am Rod Hull]

Being born British was an accident of birth so it would be silly to be proud of that however there is nothing wrong with being proud of Britain.

 

Its not an accident of birth to be born British its an act of God.

[Rincewind]

So supporting Leicester because you were born there is foolish?

 

If I was born 20 miles down the road I could be a Forest supporter and the same question would be asked of me.

[Finnegan]

I have no issue with national pride because whilst it's an accident of birth, it's also the culture you (largely) grow up in and you become inherently a part of it.

 

I'd say it's only really dangerous when you start believing your country or your culture is innately better than others. You can take pride in something without becoming militant.

[Mark_w]

So supporting Leicester because you were born there is foolish?

 

You can support Leicester City without being proud of them, I'm pretty sure that's what most of us do most of the time.

[Finnegan]

You can support Leicester City without being proud of them, I'm pretty sure that's what most of us do most of the time.

 

[Fox92]

Proud of our history, and the greats we have produced. Not so proud of our current society.

[Haydos]

Proud of our history, and the greats we have produced. Not so proud of our current society.

 

Are you one of  the ones who thinks it's a really tough and unpleasant Britain we live  in today?

[Fox92]

Are you one of  the ones who thinks it's a really tough and unpleasant Britain we live  in today?

 

No... I wouldn't say it's tough (although there are many unemployed). Unpleasant? Maybe, in some ways.

 

But I still stand by what I said. Some parts of society isn't exactly something to be proud of, not sure what you think.

[leicsmac]

No... I wouldn't say it's tough (although there are many unemployed). Unpleasant? Maybe, in some ways.

 

But I still stand by what I said. Some parts of society isn't exactly something to be proud of, not sure what you think.

 

That's true. But then neither was a significant part of our society in history something to be proud of either, so I don't think that has actually changed all that much. 

 

I think we've had historical figures that everyone can be proud of, and I think we're still progressing as a whole society now - though there are those who would disagree.

[ithuriel]

You can be proud of who you are, who your ancestors were and where they came from but when it comes right down to it, it only means something to yourself and your own self worth.

[ADK]

Disagree with the statement. It's the typical response from someone who dosn't get national pride.

[leicsmac]

Disagree with the statement. It's the typical response from someone who dosn't get national pride.

 

So what is it? Because I'll be the first to confess that I don't really get it either. 

 

I'm proud of some of the people from this country, and I'm proud of the way our country acts some of the time...but proud of the entity itself? I can't get there. 

 

Enlighten me.

[DB11]

It's being proud of the culture in which you were brought up in and that you have learnt to become accustomed to

[MooseBreath]

National pride is the last chance saloon. It's what you fall back on if you've never done anything worthy of pride in your own life.

[Rincewind]

National pride is the last chance saloon. It's what you fall back on if you've never done anything worthy of pride in your own life.

 

Best thing I've seen you post. I agree you have to believe in yourself and your acheivements first. The rest will follow.

[The Year Of The Fox]

Its not an accident of birth to be born English its an act of God.

Corrected

[The Year Of The Fox]

I've just done my political compass, and I thought I'd pose one of the questions from it to you (hopefully it hasn't already been discussed on here)

 

"No one chooses his or her country of birth, so it's foolish to be proud of it."

 

Thoughts? 

Rubbish. One of the main reasons our society has gone downhill throughout the last few decades is down to lack of national pride. Though it's certainly on the up again thanks to events like the Olympics and Jubilee last year. Long may it continue.

[Rincewind]

I thought it was an act of passion by your parents or are you saying you are the Son of a god?

[DennisNedry]

I'm happy to have been born into a country than had the biggest empire in history, kickstarted industrialisation, produced some of the best scientists and inventors in the world, produced some of the best authors, the best muscians the world will see etc etc

 

Yes, being born here was good luck, but that's no reason to not feel national pride at being born into and living in one of the best countries in the world.

[Jon the Hat]

Personally I believe we should be proud of the fundamental freedoms we have in our country, and that this is something we are a part of upholding. That and our development of the English language. Frankly it's totes amazeballs.