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Unless Danns leaves, we're not going to sign Henry who's potentially going to command a higher wage than him, it wouldn't make sense. 

 

Anyway, who would actually play Henry ahead of the likes of King and James assuming Nige sticks with his trusty 4-4-2?

 

I'd rather keep Danns over Henry.

Posted

It's so weird, if you know just say. It's all so secretive, is it to feel superior than others?

 

Or maybe its because you respect the person who told you when they tell you not to name the player?

 

Granted they aren't happy today anyway because it was leaked and I was the only person who knew the full details, but I'll not go into that.

Posted

What is there to be confused about, did you not sign someone today?

 

That's old news now.

 

Why haven't we signed anyone !!! ...

 

 

else.

Posted

because the club have to making a saving of £18m this summer...clubs enquiring about a few players though, Drinkwater, Konchesky, Vardy. Wellens has gone, was finalised today, club should announce the termination of his contract tomorrow and wish him well etc.

Posted

Toffee do you reckon we will make any more signings? Or can we only afford the one we got today

 

If Wellens has left the building I think we will bring in another 2 more players with the wage bill being reduced from Beckford's departure and Wellens's.

Posted

Someone has enquirerd about Koncheskey? Very surprised someone has wanted him on his wage and even more surprised he hasn't gone if we need money.

Also I know Vardy is on little wage but still should be selling him if a club has enquired, not good enough

Posted

because the club have to making a saving of £18m this summer...clubs enquiring about a few players though, Drinkwater, Konchesky, Vardy. Wellens has gone, was finalised today, club should announce the termination of his contract tomorrow and wish him well etc.

 

Anything about St Ledger Toffee?

 

Bert said he has been offered for free but nobody wants him.

 

Anything changed on that score?

Posted

What is there to be confused about, did you not sign someone today?

I didn't realise when the thread was made I thought we were making our second signing.

Posted

Chuffed that Danns is staying.  :thumbup:

 

Only had one good game for us, and most of the time we lost possession of the ball because of his poor control of it.

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Posted

Ok, can we start talking about QPR and FFP yet?

 

Because frankly, it's ridiculous.

They shouldn't be signing ANYBODY.

 

Their turnover the last time they were in the Championship was £16 million, and season ticket prices are lower this year for their fans than they were before, so that is optimistic (before Parachute payments). The parachute payments are an obscene £15 million per season, but that still only gives them turnover of £31 million.

According to the Guardian, their wages in 2011/12 were £58.5 million. This was before signing the likes of Park, Bosingwa, Remy and Samba (some of whom they've now offloaded).

 

Now, at an absolute minimum, their wages are going to have had another £15 million added to them, just from (very conservatively):

Remy at £4 million per year

Granero at £3 million per year

Green at £2 million per year

Jenas at £1 million per year

Hoilett at £2 million per year

Mbia at £1 million per year

Dunne at £1 million per year

Simpson at £1 million per year.

 

You can then perhaps deduct £3 million from the annual total to reflect those players that they've got rid of between the end of 2011/12 and now (don't forget they'll have paid for a month of Samba and 2 of Bosingwa, coming to a total of £1.5 million this financial year - since 31 May - too).

 

This gives us a net wage increase from 2011/12 of £12 million. Or a total of £70.5 million (we'll say £70 million to be nice). Whilst they may get rid of some of these players in the future, the fact is that at this point, they haven't, and they will be absolutely haemorrhaging money. It's also worth noting that the biggest earner, Remy, is up on rape charges in October so is extremely unlikely to be going anywhere before January.

 

So what do QPR do? They go out and bring in a former England manager as a coach (who I'm sure doesn't come cheap). They go and bring in Karl Henry, who presumably is on Premier League wages for £1 million. And they are supposedly close to tying up a deal for Gary Hooper, who is being pursued by a number of Premier League clubs. For £4.5 million.

 

All this leaves me wondering - why are we bothering to comply with FFP? We've scrimped and saved all summer, but in reality, even without parachute payments, we're far, far, far closer to FFP compliance than these guys, even before offloading Beckford and Wellens.

 

So that leaves me thinking one of 2 things:

1) FFP is unenforceable or the Football League isn't interested in enforcing it.

2) The reason we're not spending is not because of FFP, it's because the owners don't want to spend any more cash on us.

Posted

It's the parachute payments. They're ridiculous. Money for failure.

Even my mate who supports Hull said, if they go down it will add to the finances.

Clubs who get relegated have an advantage, don't they? Look at the signings that QPR and Wigan have made.

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