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Charnwood Norris

My thoughts about online dating

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Online dating is great for all women and it sucks for guys....unless you are handsome. It seems to be a perfect fit for our consumerist society, where only the best-looking or richest men get taken off the shelf. Hell, even online, women don't need to be the best looking women to get 100's of messages a week into their inbox. Women with totally average faces and non-fat bodies get treated like Princesses.

The reason why it works so well for beautiful, average and even slightly ugly/fat women is that men typically outnumber the women in online dating sites at a about 3/1 ratio. And if you think thats bad then think again: I did a quick search yesterday for women who were online in the east midlands in the 18-30 age range (prime breeding and physical attractiveness age range).  I counted just 93 women.  I did the same search for guys in the East Midlands area, again in the 18-30 range.  I counted over 700 hundred! So for that age range its like 8 guys to 1 female.

 

With an oversupply of men, they can have their pick of the litter.


Indeed, any female posting a profile to an online dating site usually gets deluged with e-mails from interested men within seconds of creating her profile. With so many e-mails and only a finite amount of time to answer them, naturally they will screen in only the best-looking and richest men.

One man posting in an online forum said he found that for every four hundred e-mails he sends to women, he will get maybe one or two positive responses back. Not dates, just responses. One response for every four hundred e-mails? Yikes! With results like that, it’s not hard to see that his chances of actually getting a date are pretty slim.

A number of years ago, German researchers found that people have to date a minimum of thirteen people before they find a suitable long-term partner. Let’s assume the prospective suitor I mentioned earlier does get one date for every four hundred e-mails he sends. That’s four hundred times thirteen, or 5,200 e-mails to find a partner!

I can’t imagine any man having the kind of time or energy on his hands to carry out such a Herculean task.

Not surprisingly, many online dating site operators find, that with such poor odds of success, they have a hard time keeping male customers. So, in hopes of keeping the money rolling in, they send out phantom profiles (profiles of women whose membership has lapsed) to men who have signed on for free trials or who have cancelled their memberships.

I personally experienced firsthand the same bait-and-switcheroo. When my match.com membership was active matches would arrive by e-mail. When I logged on to respond, I found that many of the profiles had magically disappeared! Cancelling my membership only resulted in more e-mails promising matches and entreaties not to cancel. Recently match.com has come under fire from various quarters for engaging in such slimy business practices of producing 'phantom' profiles of good looking women. As of this writing, a class-action lawsuit has been lodged against match.com; plaintiffs are seeking a refund of their membership fees on the grounds that they were defrauded.

In my travels, I have found that several basic types of women frequent online dating sites:

1. Stuck-up, snooty women who think they are God’s gift to men. With the tons of e-mail they get from hopeful suitors, they acquire both swelled heads and a wildly unrealistic opinion of their market value in the dating world. Women like this are clearly suffering from what I call ‘Princess Syndrome’. A characteristic symptom of the malady is having a stringent laundry list of ‘requirements’ and ‘standards’ few men could ever hope to meet. They typically want tall (6ft) good looking, athletic (muscular) and rich.

2. Attention junkies. This makes up a large proportion of women who sign up for online dating sites. Many have BF's/partners offline but get an ego 'fix' by seeing how many men they can attract etc with no intention of dating them.

3. Gold-diggers. No explanation needed here!

4. Professional daters who, sucked in by the endless choice online dating appears to offer, keep looking for the Bigger, Better Deal. Ad nauseam. Scratch a professional dater, and you’ll likely find someone with a serious fear of commitment lurking underneath. The type of woman mentioned in (2) above often fits into this category.

5. Teases who get off on rejecting men for sport. They typically like to delete or block men that are 'losers', to them that is men that don't have good looks. These women should have a big “L†branded in their foreheads – “L†for “Loserâ€, of course.

6. Desperate single mothers. If you ever see a profile where a woman says, “My children mean everything to meâ€, RUN! This is code-speak that means a woman is basically married to her children, and if you get involved with her, you’ll find that you rank dead last. Right down there with Fido, if you’re lucky.

7. Russian/ Eastern European women or women from other foreign countries such as Nigeria where poverty and crime is rife. Probably half of these women are allied with fraudsters seeking to fleece lonely men.

8. Drunks, druggies, illiterate skanks, chavs, psychopaths, other assorted undesirables.

9. Fatties. The strange thing about the online dating sites I’ve been on is that there are a massive number of women who could be considered BIG ladies. (they’re the ones who post a face and cleverage pic but nobody pic and state in their profile they are of 'average' build when they are in fact morbidly obese hogs). They must make up at least 50% of all profiles.  It only means more men are competing for women of healthy weights.

10. Women who use old photographs. This is a tactic used by ageing women in their 30's more than the younger girls. They typically upload pics that are 5 or even 10 years old. The youthful, sleek, fit 115lbs girl you see in the profile might be 200lbs+ and aged like rotten milk by now.

Confused? So am I. See points 1, 2, and 3 above for an explanation on why a good-looking woman would feel the need to resort to online dating.

Bottom line: Online dating is a bad deal for average / ugly looking men. Guys, your money and time is better invested elsewhere.
Posted

Online dating is great for all women and it sucks for guys....unless you are handsome. It seems to be a perfect fit for our consumerist society, where only the best-looking or richest men get taken off the shelf. Hell, even online, women don't need to be the best looking women to get 100's of messages a week into their inbox. Women with totally average faces and non-fat bodies get treated like Princesses.

The reason why it works so well for beautiful, average and even slightly ugly/fat women is that men typically outnumber the women in online dating sites at a about 3/1 ratio. And if you think thats bad then think again: I did a quick search yesterday for women who were online in the east midlands in the 18-30 age range (prime breeding and physical attractiveness age range). I counted just 93 women. I did the same search for guys in the East Midlands area, again in the 18-30 range. I counted over 700 hundred! So for that age range its like 8 guys to 1 female.

With an oversupply of men, they can have their pick of the litter.

Indeed, any female posting a profile to an online dating site usually gets deluged with e-mails from interested men within seconds of creating her profile. With so many e-mails and only a finite amount of time to answer them, naturally they will screen in only the best-looking and richest men.

One man posting in an online forum said he found that for every four hundred e-mails he sends to women, he will get maybe one or two positive responses back. Not dates, just responses. One response for every four hundred e-mails? Yikes! With results like that, it’s not hard to see that his chances of actually getting a date are pretty slim.

A number of years ago, German researchers found that people have to date a minimum of thirteen people before they find a suitable long-term partner. Let’s assume the prospective suitor I mentioned earlier does get one date for every four hundred e-mails he sends. That’s four hundred times thirteen, or 5,200 e-mails to find a partner!

I can’t imagine any man having the kind of time or energy on his hands to carry out such a Herculean task.

Not surprisingly, many online dating site operators find, that with such poor odds of success, they have a hard time keeping male customers. So, in hopes of keeping the money rolling in, they send out phantom profiles (profiles of women whose membership has lapsed) to men who have signed on for free trials or who have cancelled their memberships.

I personally experienced firsthand the same bait-and-switcheroo. When my match.com membership was active matches would arrive by e-mail. When I logged on to respond, I found that many of the profiles had magically disappeared! Cancelling my membership only resulted in more e-mails promising matches and entreaties not to cancel. Recently match.com has come under fire from various quarters for engaging in such slimy business practices of producing 'phantom' profiles of good looking women. As of this writing, a class-action lawsuit has been lodged against match.com; plaintiffs are seeking a refund of their membership fees on the grounds that they were defrauded.

In my travels, I have found that several basic types of women frequent online dating sites:

1. Stuck-up, snooty women who think they are God’s gift to men. With the tons of e-mail they get from hopeful suitors, they acquire both swelled heads and a wildly unrealistic opinion of their market value in the dating world. Women like this are clearly suffering from what I call ‘Princess Syndrome’. A characteristic symptom of the malady is having a stringent laundry list of ‘requirements’ and ‘standards’ few men could ever hope to meet. They typically want tall (6ft) good looking, athletic (muscular) and rich.

2. Attention junkies. This makes up a large proportion of women who sign up for online dating sites. Many have BF's/partners offline but get an ego 'fix' by seeing how many men they can attract etc with no intention of dating them.

3. Gold-diggers. No explanation needed here!

4. Professional daters who, sucked in by the endless choice online dating appears to offer, keep looking for the Bigger, Better Deal. Ad nauseam. Scratch a professional dater, and you’ll likely find someone with a serious fear of commitment lurking underneath. The type of woman mentioned in (2) above often fits into this category.

5. Teases who get off on rejecting men for sport. They typically like to delete or block men that are 'losers', to them that is men that don't have good looks. These women should have a big “L†branded in their foreheads – “L†for “Loserâ€, of course.

6. Desperate single mothers. If you ever see a profile where a woman says, “My children mean everything to meâ€, RUN! This is code-speak that means a woman is basically married to her children, and if you get involved with her, you’ll find that you rank dead last. Right down there with Fido, if you’re lucky.

7. Russian/ Eastern European women or women from other foreign countries such as Nigeria where poverty and crime is rife. Probably half of these women are allied with fraudsters seeking to fleece lonely men.

8. Drunks, druggies, illiterate skanks, chavs, psychopaths, other assorted undesirables.

9. Fatties. The strange thing about the online dating sites I’ve been on is that there are a massive number of women who could be considered BIG ladies. (they’re the ones who post a face and cleverage pic but nobody pic and state in their profile they are of 'average' build when they are in fact morbidly obese hogs). They must make up at least 50% of all profiles. It only means more men are competing for women of healthy weights.

10. Women who use old photographs. This is a tactic used by ageing women in their 30's more than the younger girls. They typically upload pics that are 5 or even 10 years old. The youthful, sleek, fit 115lbs girl you see in the profile might be 200lbs+ and aged like rotten milk by now.

Confused? So am I. See points 1, 2, and 3 above for an explanation on why a good-looking woman would feel the need to resort to online dating.

Bottom line: Online dating is a bad deal for average / ugly looking men. Guys, your money and time is better invested elsewhere.

I'm guessing you're ugly with no money then ?
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Another thing to mention, some of the members on the website are real! Some i believe have been set up by website just to fill the numbers. But like you say dating sites i like toy shops, only the good look ones get took of the shelf.

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For fook sake get down the pub or clubs.. if you have a decent personality and can talk a bit, you will find a slapper..I mean a nice woman...no worries. all this online stuff is a total crap shoot.

Guest Bilo
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For fook sake get down the pub or clubs.. if you have a decent personality and can talk a bit, you will find a slapper..I mean a nice woman...no worries. all this online stuff is a total crap shoot.

 

lol

 

Sometimes you don't even need that if you have a bit of money. 

Guest Bilo
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My sentiments exactly Webbo.

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You what mate?   National steak and blowjob day is that?

 

Just a poor attempt at humour. It's an online date.

 

A female friend of mine went through a painful divorce after a long marriage and was out of the dating loop so she decided to try online dating.

 

She was ruthless! She went out with a guy for about 8 months from late summer/autumn one year until it got to the first warm day of spring and the guy turned up for a stroll in socks and sandals. He was gone.

 

Next one lasted about 5 months until her daughter's 18th birthday party and he got up to dance and couldn't hold the rythym. He was dispatched too.

 

She was determined to find the right person and succeeded about four years ago.

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You also shouldn't ignore the fact that 95 per cent of the profiles of ladies on online dating sites are identical and f***ing boring and can be ignored i.e. they are all honest and trusting, like spending time with their family, like children and animals and like going out but equally like staying in to watch a DVD and have a glass of wine.

 

Probably cheaper long term to go to a brothel and then come home and watch a DVD of your choice.

 

I don't know what bloke's profiles say, because I wasn't looking for one.  Probably 'I don't like rape' or something

Guest Bilo
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I don't know what bloke's profiles say, because I wasn't looking for one.  Probably 'I don't like rape' or something

 

So that's where I went wrong then.....

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This is just what happens when you have crowds of desperate male feminist white knights treating every woman they ever meet as some kind of goddess. Must be really rough out there for men who haven't got their shit together. The good news is, as long as you have got your shit together, the tide well and truly turns as these women hit mid-20s and start looking for a suitable 'baby-daddy'. Any man in his late 20s and throughout his 30s who looks after himself and can flash a bit of wealth can pretty much take his pick.

And even it that fails, there's always Venezuela.

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As if it wasn't tragic enough it appears to be stolen off a blog from 2008. Fúck me.

 

http://pofsucks1.wordpress.com/2008/01/07/online-dating-great-for-women-sucks-for-men/

 

Well it's been a conversation starter if nothing else.

 

Turning up to a date with some content lifted from the internet could actually prove to be a winning strategy, particularly if you've not got much to contribute yourself.

 

So that's where I went wrong then.....

 

It's an easy mistake to make

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Well it's been a conversation starter if nothing else.

 

Turning up to a date with some content lifted from the internet could actually prove to be a winning strategy, particularly if you've not got much to contribute yourself.

 

 

One of the first things I said to my now wife was that I frequented a website where peope were labelled potential paedophiles and ugly children were entered into confectionary-based competitions and then publicly humiliated.

 

Worked for me.

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One of the first things I said to my now wife was that I frequented a website where peope were labelled potential paedophiles and ugly children were entered into confectionary-based competitions and then publicly humiliated.

 

Worked for me.

 

My partner is generally appalled by the very thought of football fans, so I tend not to draw attention to my 'involvement' in this site.  When you describe it like you have though, what's not to like?

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A mate of mine is addicted to online dating. He's met a steady procession of nice attractive girls, but gets bored of them within a few weeks and moves onto the next one. He said because it's so easy, he always has the nagging doubt that there's a better one around the corner. Of course it helps that he's good looking, athletic and wealthy...

At the other end of the scale, a girl friend of mine Is now married and has had kids with a bloke she met online

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When I did online dating I emailed three ladies,  only actually got to meet one, with whom I now have a family.

 

I'm not very good looking and drive a Vauxhall Astra

 

But Foxy Peter must have been an influencing factor for your other half.

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