OzFox Posted 10 March 2014 Posted 10 March 2014 Extended version? You mean there is more? Yep. Goes into even more gory detail about his poor health. I'm starting to think Oswald did him a favour.
Zingari Posted 10 March 2014 Author Posted 10 March 2014 Yep. Goes into even more gory detail about his poor health. I'm starting to think Oswald did him a favour. yep interesting read so far although i think it's pretty well known he was in a pretty bad way health-wise . LHO didn't do him any favours though , because he didn't do it James Files is more likely to be one of the real assassins
l444ry Posted 10 March 2014 Posted 10 March 2014 Zingari. Did you ever watch, On Trial: Lee Harvey Oswald? I remember watching this 30 odd years ago and notice that it has popped upon youtube after all these years.
Zingari Posted 10 March 2014 Author Posted 10 March 2014 Zingari. Did you ever watch, On Trial: Lee Harvey Oswald? I remember watching this 30 odd years ago and notice that it has popped upon youtube after all these years. yes i remember it well ,Vincent Bugliosi and Gerry Spence . in a mock trial . great stuff !
l444ry Posted 10 March 2014 Posted 10 March 2014 yes i remember it well ,Vincent Bugliosi and Gerry Spence . in a mock trial . great stuff ! It's now on Youtube in 24 parts. Would recommend it to anyone on here that has an interest. Stunningly addictive once you start watching.
Zingari Posted 10 March 2014 Author Posted 10 March 2014 It's now on Youtube in 24 parts. Would recommend it to anyone on here that has an interest. Stunningly addictive once you start watching. definitely even though the verdict is wrong oops maybe that should be in a spoiler Mark Lane's original "rush to judgement " is also available and well worth watching too
hesapeepingtom Posted 9 October 2014 Posted 9 October 2014 how anyone can watch that ( frame 313)and insist he was shot from the rear is beyond me Read case closed by Gerard posner,just cause he jerks back it means nothing,the author was shown several videos of executions where the body moves in a different direction than the motion of the bullet
Babylon Posted 10 October 2014 Posted 10 October 2014 This is a short vid saying that a witness saw a bullet hole in the windshield . Given your previous statement that you don't see why witnesses would lie, why do you think she's lying here? and why is the man who changed the windshield lying? Just because x person says they saw something doesn't mean they are telling a lie, conversely it also doesn't mean they are telling the truth. Many people can just be mistaken about what they saw. I won't go into details but I found someone who had died, I had to try and give the police a breakdown of lots of facts about that day and the previous few days. My own movements and those of the deceased... it was almost impossible to recollect anything 100% correctly such as exact timings or even exact days of certain events. If someone later said I was wrong on my dates and timings it doesn't mean I lied about it, it was just very hard to recollect exactly the details.
leftbackinthechangingroom Posted 10 October 2014 Posted 10 October 2014 There's a documentary on tonight on channel 5 at 9 called jfk's secret killer the evidence
purpleronnie Posted 10 October 2014 Posted 10 October 2014 There's a documentary on tonight on channel 5 at 9 called jfk's secret killer the evidence Evidence brilliant.
hesapeepingtom Posted 10 October 2014 Posted 10 October 2014 It's my goal to find oswalds grave and piss on it.he's buried next to a grave marked Nick beef so people can find it
MC Prussian Posted 11 October 2014 Posted 11 October 2014 I find the "On Trial: Lee Harvey Oswald" coverage very intriguing. It reminds me of "Twelve Angry Men" and how you can create tension and suspense by the mere use of lawyers of the prosecution and defense, as well as witnesses and evidence. Personally, I'd say Oswald did shoot at the president's limousine. Whether he wanted to hit Kennedy directly or whether he was just ordered to imply that he was the sole shooter/evoke the notion he and no one else was responsible for the shooting, of course we'll probably never know. There's more to this story. The Jack Ruby aspect has also never been clearly resolved, since Ruby as the main witness died a few years before his second court appearance. Many crucial elements and items are missing or have gone lost over the course of time, which hints at pretty sloppy police and detective work. Unusual for such a large and important benchmark case when the most powerful man of the arguably most powerful nation in the world is assassinated in his native country.
hesapeepingtom Posted 11 October 2014 Posted 11 October 2014 Things went missing because in 1964 the warren commission finished its report and everyone thought that was case closed.Between 1964 and 1977 so many so called eye witnesses changed their stories to sell books or to say what potential conspiracy writer,wanted to hear.also time and suggestions can play tricks on people's minds and they actually start to believe they seen something they didn't.As for ruby,for him to have pre planned shooting oswald then oswald would have had to have been in on that himself.number 1.he was supposed to be transfered on the Saturday night,then it got held back till the Sunday morning.Oswald was ****ing around Sunday morning and wanted to change sweater.if he didn't do this ,he would have been gone before Jack ruby got there.ruby was only in the area because he was posting a money order to one of his strippers who called and asked him for help to pay her rent. I think the fbi did get rid of some evidence not incriminating them,just hiding the many blunders they made for this to happen.Oswald apperently handed a note to an agent to tell him stop harrasing his family but this was destroyed.safe to say the fbi knew of Oswald but didnt take him serios or see him as a threat.
ithuriel Posted 11 October 2014 Posted 11 October 2014 Thought the new documentary was pretty good and well presented, the theory it was an accidental headshot by a hurried secret service agent in a car following with the chaos ensuing Oswald's attempted assassination and the evidence viewed was far move believable than any conspiracy theory I've heard until now.
johnny the fox Posted 11 October 2014 Posted 11 October 2014 8pm channel 5 tonight..if anybody is interested.
lestajigs Posted 11 October 2014 Posted 11 October 2014 Thought the new documentary was pretty good and well presented, the theory it was an accidental headshot by a hurried secret service agent in a car following with the chaos ensuing Oswald's attempted assassination and the evidence viewed was far move believable than any conspiracy theory I've heard until now. I no, makes you think, what the hell would be the chances of that!! Very unlucky if true
hesapeepingtom Posted 12 October 2014 Posted 12 October 2014 Thought the new documentary was pretty good and well presented, the theory it was an accidental headshot by a hurried secret service agent in a car following with the chaos ensuing Oswald's attempted assassination and the evidence viewed was far move believable than any conspiracy theory I've heard until now. So if oswald shot the first 2 shots that hit kennedy,is it not more plausible he shot the 3rd and fatal one aswell? I don't know why these documentaries keep looking for an explanation,when there is a perfectly good one already there. More times than not,the simplest explanation,is the correct one.
ithuriel Posted 13 October 2014 Posted 13 October 2014 hesapeepingtom, on 12 Oct 2014 - 06:08 AM, said:hesapeepingtom, on 12 Oct 2014 - 06:08 AM, said: So if oswald shot the first 2 shots that hit kennedy,is it not more plausible he shot the 3rd and fatal one aswell? I don't know why these documentaries keep looking for an explanation,when there is a perfectly good one already there. More times than not,the simplest explanation,is the correct one. Because the evidence presented says that the bullets that wounded him were different from the one that actually blew his brains out, Oswald is responsible for the event but the fatal shot being an accident and the consequent rushed cover up would lead to all this conspiracy stuff. The magic bullet theory was debunked by the evidence too, was an interesting program At the end of the day though, it really all means nothing, peeps will believe what they want to believe and theories will trundle on regardless.
David Guiza Posted 13 October 2014 Posted 13 October 2014 Read up on Lee Harvey Oswald the other night, and my word what a psycho he was. From birth to death he had serious issues, bveat his Mum, spell in prison, travelled to Russia, attempted to travel to Cuba etc. Also found out that his daughter was working in a cafe that has/had a picture of LHO being shot dead on display, she claimed it didn't bother her a great deal and that ironically the only other family who would have to see pictures of their Dad being shot on a regular basis was the Kennedy's.
OzFox Posted 13 October 2014 Posted 13 October 2014 This picture of the secret service car was taken just after the shooting Now if he'd just accidentally blown the President's head off in front of a car full of his colleagues, would he be sitting there waving the rifle around, calm as you like? Or would he be on the floor of the car with his colleagues sitting on top of him? Also, he'd have had to have the rifle at his shoulder to fire over the windscreen. You'd think somebody might have noticed that.
ithuriel Posted 13 October 2014 Posted 13 October 2014 Watch the documentary and decide for yourself, personally I do not give a shit one way or the other, it was an interesting show.
Mark_w Posted 13 October 2014 Posted 13 October 2014 Watch the documentary and decide for yourself. I don't know what this particular documentary is saying, but that's really bad advice. Any documentary is going to leave out evidence that doesn't support its narrative, so if you're going to 'watch the documentary and decide for yourself', the documentary is going to decide for you.
ithuriel Posted 13 October 2014 Posted 13 October 2014 Mark_w, on 13 Oct 2014 - 5:32 PM, said:I don't know what this particular documentary is saying, but that's really bad advice. Any documentary is going to leave out evidence that doesn't support its narrative, so if you're going to 'watch the documentary and decide for yourself', the documentary is going to decide for you. I'm not going to argue with you, do not watch it, your choice.
Rincewind Posted 13 October 2014 Posted 13 October 2014 I'll go with the official version. What can be done anyway. Oswald is dead. Can't bring him back and he did have the intention of killing JFK. If the bodyguard did it by accident is he still around? If he is he has not confessed yet or anyone that covered it up has come forward. So let it be and not make a mystery out of it. people will always look for the fantastic answers.
............... Posted 13 October 2014 Posted 13 October 2014 This picture of the secret service car was taken just after the shooting Now if he'd just accidentally blown the President's head off in front of a car full of his colleagues, would he be sitting there waving the rifle around, calm as you like? Or would he be on the floor of the car with his colleagues sitting on top of him? Also, he'd have had to have the rifle at his shoulder to fire over the windscreen. You'd think somebody might have noticed that. And as well, that photo was taken as they were bombing down the freeway to get to the hospital, not seconds after the shooting as the documentary implied
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